Sunday, November 21, 2010

Sunset report on Texas youth prisons, juvenile probation: TYC costs per youth too high

The Sunset Commission issued its 39-page Staff Report (pdf) on the Texas Youth Commission and Juvenile Probation Commission on Friday. See MSM reports here, here, and here. Last session, the Sunset Commission suggested merging TYC and TJPC, the report reminds us, but the Lege chose not to do so. And the raft of legislative and agency reforms from 2007 afterward aren't long enough ago for recidivism studies, meaning we can't tell yet if they "worked" from the perspective of reducing crime. So, concludes Sunset staff:
Ultimately, it is too early to measure the impact of recent reforms on recidivism of youth on probation or exiting TYC, making it difficult to assess the success of the State’s investment in diversion and treatment. Sunset staff found that while the agencies have progressed, more work is needed and some time must elapse before reforms can be fully evaluated. Accordingly, staff concluded that TYC and TJPC should be continued for six years.
They did say in the summary that:
While the agencies have implemented most of the required reforms, the juvenile justice system remains in transition and TYC needs to make additional improvements. As the youth population continues to decline, commitment costs and worker injury rates remain high. Staff turnover rates are down, but TYC continues to have difficulty staffing specialized treatment positions, and the agency can still improve the number of youth enrolling in and completing needed treatment.
Overall, "TYC received about $262.4 million in revenue in fiscal year 2009. General revenue accounted for 86 percent of the agency’s total revenue. Other major sources of revenue included general obligation bonds, federal funds, and interagency contracts."

"The smaller population has resulted in excess physical capacity and a higher cost per youth per day," says Sunset staff, which has increased to $323.05 per day. Ouch. On one hand, the success at a legislatively directed policy to depopulate Texas youth prisons so rapidly is the direct cause of the high cost per day: The more youth diverted, the more the agency must pay per youth unless more facilities are closed. OTOH, if there are alternatives that counties could access for a lower cost, the high number provides more fuel for Sen. Whitmire's call to merge TYC with juvenile probation and close most remaining youth prisons.

The average length of parole supervision after leaving TYC is 10 months, Sunset found, with 3,714 youth on the agency's supervision rosters in FY 2009.

The Juvenile Probation Commission "received about $144.5 million in funding in fiscal year 2009. General Revenue accounted for 87 percent of the agency’s total revenue," according to Sunset. "In 2009, TJPC funding accounted for, on average, 26 percent of local probation departments’ operating budgets. However, the percent of a department’s budget provided by TJPC varied by county, from as little as 11 percent to as much as 97 percent. The agency funded departments through 19 separate grants, which are described in Appendix C."

TJPC's diversion grants aimed at keeping youth out of TYC received high praise for boosting reductions in commitments between 2009 and 2010:
  • The 141 counties that received diversion funding reduced commitments by 32 percent.
  • Counties that did not receive funding reduced commitments by 10 percent.
TJPC spent $4.3 million in 2009 on its Juvenile Case Management System, described on Grits here as "almost a Total Information Awareness system for juvenile offenders age 10-17, connecting 'legacy' databases from dozens of local juvenile probation departments and potentially many other sources," which will roll out next spring. State Rep. Lois Kolkhorst got to the heart of the issue surrounding this database when she asked, "Who owns the record?" Hint: It ain't the kid, or their parents.

TJPC is already doing its first extensive, long-term evaluations of local probation programs, which I think is wise even if it renders no short-term benefit. "TJPC has begun a major data collection effort with the recent creation of a program registry. This registry will list all programs offered by local probation departments and allow comparisons between programs to evaluate program success. While TJPC has increased data collection efforts, it will likely be several years before enough data is available for meaningful analysis." That's fine with me; it's not like we're not going to need better data in several years.

At TYC, staffing remains a concern, particularly for positions requiring specialized skills:
One of the Youth Commission’s greatest staffing challenges has been high turnover rates, especially for positions providing direct care to youth. The agency’s overall turnover rate has dropped from 41 percent in fiscal year 2007 to 25 percent in fiscal year 2010. However, hiring the specialized treatment and education professionals TYC youth need remains challenging, especially at the Al Price State Juvenile Correctional Facility in Beaumont, the Corsicana Residential Treatment Center, the Crockett State School, and Evins Regional Juvenile Center in Edinburg. The Youth Commission reports that key substance abuse treatment positions at Al Price have been vacant for months, or more than a year in at least one case. Likewise, senior-level mental health positions at Evins were recently vacant for a significant period. Corsicana, which serves the youth with the most severe mental health needs, currently has five mental health provider vacancies, including the most senior position.
Injuries to TYC staff remain a problem, whether as a result of understaffing or a lack of experienced and/or adequately trained staff: "In fiscal year 2010, TYC staff were injured at a rate more than double that of the next highest agency providing 24-hour care, the Texas Department of Aging and Disability Services, and four times the rate of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice (TDCJ)."

TYC has been shifting its treatment resources, as evidenced by a chart at the top of page 17. Fewer youth with identified chemical dependency needs are getting treatment, however nearly all youth identified with mental health needs receive treatment services. As a result, success rates for chemical dependency treatment have gone up while success rates for mental health treatment declined precipitously. Appendix B gives more unit-by-unit detail on "the number of TYC youth served in high- and moderate-intensity treatment programs in fiscal years 2009 and 2010."

Sunset recommends continuing the two agencies, for an annual total cost of $402.5 million at current funding levels, but with another Sunset review in just six years instead of the usual twelve, presumably to give recent reforms time to gel and for data to become available to measure problems or improvements.

Notably missing in the Sunset report were any issues raised by advocacy groups over the summer regarding TYC, with staff sticking tightly to their legislative charge from 2009.

Takeaway: TYC's base cost per youth remain high, ironically getting higher whenever TJPC and local probation departments succeed in diverting youth from state prisons. To cut costs long-term likely would require eliminating  facilities to reduce overhead, something I wouldn't be surprised to see happen next spring. Criticisms of TJPC in the Sunset report weren't nearly as poignant as those of its sister agency and they probably feel pretty good about the result.

42 comments:

Anonymous said...

As far as TYC goes, one of the reasons cost is going up is because they are finally getting around to providing the staffing they need. At Al Price, education staff have just started reaching the levels required by law, and now have on board some extremely talented people. And, student performance is starting to reflect it.

Of course, I fully expect TYC Austin administration to shoot itself in the foot again and do something stupid to cause performance to drop.

Prison Doc said...

What a problem...you have to be more of an optimist than I am to think that a ready correction is achievable in our lifetime.

Just as adult corrections needs more vocational and life skills training, Juvie needs emphasis on education and behavioral therapy. Both need changes in society and the legal system to allow released offenders to find appropriate work. A felony conviction is still the kiss of death for most job seekers except for forms of day labor. It breaks my heart almost every day to hear young offenders talking about how well they are going to do in a reasonable job upon release, while I know full well that they will be lucky to find something at minimum wage with no benefits.

Please don't bemoan the lack of mental health services--in this day and time that mainly consists of starting patients on costly and toxic medications which immediately lead to drug recidivism upon release in virtually all cases. It's a rare offender that violates parole due to untreated major mental illness; as the psychiatrist Thomas Szasz writes,they aren't mentally ill, they have problems with living. As a medical student I thought that was heresy; now older and wiser, I believe it more and more.

Advocacy groups have their hearts in the right place but unfortunately their brains are not engaged; they are long on complaints but short on meaningful suggestions other than "dope them up and let them out".

Anonymous said...

It makes sense....to save money, close facilities. Any rumors as to which ones??

Anonymous said...

It always makes sense to close units to balance the budget. Be in juvie or adult. Are all these people that are so violent going to just disappear? Where will the juvie's be housed? Who will do the Dr., dentist, eye doctor, schooling, job training, social training, AA/NA is it is merged with the probation. Oh wait, John Whitmire will give them over to GEO group. Isn't that why he accepted their large campain contribution? Go back to Grits archive for that info. That is where I read it.

Anonymous said...

TYC now incarcerates fewer than 1,600 teenage lawbreakers at 11 lockups around the state, compared to more than 4,100 just five years ago.

Those 1,600 that are left are something else. You've got some exotic cats out there now (at TYC).

Over a million gang bangers (in Texas) doing their thing in the hoods and 1,600 locked up. Think about it.

Anonymous said...

I do understand that these kids don't just disapper and will be housed somewhere...but Townsend has already said we are closing 2 schools. I am just wondering if there are any rumors out there as to which 2.

Prison Doc said...

I don't think GEO wants the juvies, too much trouble, too much liability. Once burned, twice cautious.

Anonymous said...

At 3:32-

Best guesses as to closures would be the ones most often identified with problems by the advocacy groups...Al Price, Corsicana, Crockett, and Evins. Probably in that order.

Anonymous said...

Why not close all four of these bad schools?

Anonymous said...

Only thing more worthless than a TDCJ parole officer is a TYC one..Especially in Dallas...

Anonymous said...

323.05, you have got to be kidding. Please someone explain to those tyc chester/protector that ROI means Return On Investment not Rectal Ortho Insertion. I can’t believe us tax payers are paying for the crap that gets delivered to those kids. Hell, it would be cheaper to send them to Greenhill with housing, food allowance and a surrogate parent having the expectation for the kid to perform at that level. For 323.05 a day we put these kids in an environment that expects them to fail. I thought it was around 95.00 a day not 323.05.
All the more reason to let the TDCJ people handle juvenile corrections. A central farm for incorrigible juvenile offenders managed by the department of corrections. What will it take? How many staff assaults by the children will it take? With the hiring policies of the 80’s coupled with the hug a thug crap, then getting rid of the 80% of kids sent to tyc by lazy ass probation officers leaves nothing but the “exotic cats” as one blogger called them. Actually that term is kind of creepy, but could mean something else in tyc speak. Therefore why not let the department of corrections handle juvenile corrections.
Gassing, something unheard of back in the Gatesville days but quite popular in today’s tyc. Part of the cultural shift from beat um red necks to the sexual deviant playz culture of today I suppose. IMO, Throwing feces’ on chesters/protectors is showing the respect they deserve. However, I’m told in the primate world it’s a sign of affection. I’m lead to believe in tyc gassing is like courting? What gives? I suppose I should be more liberal in my thinking and perfectly OK with our state providing a safe place for pedophiles to work and play with an ample supply of unwanted children, but at 323.05 a day. Sunset those punks, and turn the exotic cats over to TDCJ.

Anonymous 11/22/2010 12:37
Please don’t single out Dallas I’m sure the other cities are just as bad.

Sheldon tyc#47333 II c/s

Anonymous said...

IF TYC did not have to "treat" these young men and women, the cost would go down considerably.

But, the legislature wanted all these young people treated and thus the cost goes up, not rocket science here folks.

Now of course you can complain about the effectiveness of treatment, but once again when you are directed to do so by the powers that be you must follow their lead.

I am sure a lot of TYC staff would love to just lock these kids up and forget about the treatment aspect, just like TDCJ, the cost per day would go down, the injury rate would go down, just don't think the advocacy groups would go for this?

Anonymous said...

Can you read Sheldon? Oh I forgot, you have that TYC GED. I'm sorry to be insensitive.

Of course costs are high and that is with numerous layoffs. Whenever government makes uninformed changes it costs extra money...

I know, if they sent more kids to TYC the numbers would be lower...so make it worth it, send more kids to TYC.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if they calculated how much these kids cost their counties per day before they came to TYC? How much did the county spend on their education, detention stays, probation officers, court hearings, victimization, attempted and failed treatment...

TYC is cheap man. Get a grip?

Anonymous said...

Dump butt. Who doesn't wish they could spend 100 thousand each year on their own kids. TYC is a drastic waste and everyone, except you, knows that.

Anonymous said...

854: Like most tyc'ers, you probably have a high school certificate that you received through social programming advancement. Now, stuck with TYC for a lifetime, you are envious of Sheldon, who received higher education degrees through initives that you will never possess. Use Sheldon as your inspiration and perhaps you, too can move off the night shift. As an under-dog, you can only wish for better and try to hurt those that do better than you. You present as down and out, but probably of your own makings.

Charity said...

"Advocacy groups have their hearts in the right place but unfortunately their brains are not engaged; they are long on complaints but short on meaningful suggestions other than "dope them up and let them out".

11/21/2010 09:41:00 AM

I am one of the advocates mentioned and I take issue with the commentator who finds we lack brains or solutions. While there are some who want kids to be doped up and let out the majority of us want to see meaningful change in the child in the hope they will move on to a more respectful life. Just doping a kid up does not do this.

I became an advocate four years ago when my son was incarcerated for the murder of his own sister. In this time I have fought many battles with TYC on behalf of all the kids, and families, in the system. None of those battles have to do with the realeasing of an obviously mentally ill child into society unless that child has shown the capacity for remorse and the ability to change. I spend all my energies on advocating for better specialized treatment based on case files, police reports, AND scientific psychological testing, something TYC does not do. I also advocate tirelessly for the role of the family in treatment. Children do not commit crimes in a vacuum and if they are going to get better the family needs to be involved. I also advocate for penal code reform because much of what our kids do has been criminalized instead of being viewed as a mental health or addiction issue, which it most often is with children.

Many advocates have a personal interest in the system and to many that may make us 'brainless'. We have years of combined experience, the majority of us are very well educated, and we have a passion and commitment to a cause most people think of as worthless. You could not be more wrong about advocates. We are the heart of the movement but our brains work just fine too.

Anonymous said...

I don’t think you people get it. As an alumnus I’m disgusted at what has become of my alma mater over the last 3 decades. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist doing research to see this pathetic trend. Searching for articles on tyc in the news papers of our state’s major cities shows a trend over the last 50 years of physical abuse diffusing into sexual abuse in the 90’s. Culminating with a hard fought, deep cover up, scandal that actually got a Chester convicted. I have contact with about 30 alumni ranging in age from their late teens to early 30’s who all tell the same disgusting stories about staff, mostly playas, sexually molesting kids on their dorm. Reporting it is a joke, because all state boys lie, according to tyc emps. The stories the Gatesville alumni tell, is far different than what more recent alumni tell. Researching state archives one can easily find the recidivisms rate increase from an average of 20% in the 50’,60’s and 70’s and increasing to above 80% today. The tyc culture went from a self sufficient model in the 50’s and 60’s, to a cost effective model in the 70’s then in the 80’s began its exponentially growing cost model to the embarrassing cost prohibitive model in place today, 323.05/day.

High school years are very formidable years for kids, even thugs. Many things I learned at Terrace, and habits I picked up during that time, some of which I had to overcome but others have given me an advantage over the average citizen. Skill sets that have led many successful endeavors, that can be read about in a book I’m writing called, “tyc and ME”. I have become very concerned about the kids who have been subjected to tyc and want to help them break free of the bondage that the system has on them. I believe I have a lot to offer, I’ve been through the volunteer training, and after visiting several campus, in a roundabout way been told I’m disqualified from volunteering because I have felonies. That is incorrect, I have no felonies. I’ve been told the kids out on parole need clothes and toiletries, but after organizing a drive to collect these items, I can’t get my phone calls returned. I have access to people who could provide jobs as well as a family business that employs over 600 people with a history of hiring ex convicts. Again, I can’t get anyone at tyc to return my calls. I have people who want to mentor kids, some tyc alumni, still tyc not interested.

On a previous post one of the typical anonymous tyc bloggers wrote tyc monitors this blog and it could have something to do with what I write. I hope that’s not the case. I can understand some night shift worker in-between boys anonymously blogging defensive criticisms, but I would think the CO crowd is too busy molesting state funds and lording over superintendent to monitor what I write. However if that’s the case, it’s safe to assume that the Chester/protector culture does not want anyone who openly disrespects pedophiles out of fear I would snitch them off.

Everything I say/write regarding tyc is documented public knowledge. I wish this was all made up, but I don’t think the porn industry could come up with the pathetic disgusting things tyc does to many of its charges. The tyc would rather downplay all of this, cover it up, and be defensive. They don’t want to talk about Morales v turdman, it’s even downplayed in there emp training let alone their current culture of child predator and those who cover for them, Chester/protector culture.

Hearts in the right place but no brains. Typical dribble of a defensive ignorant person. I have determined tyc is way too busy protecting it pedophile staff to be concerned about the kids. Moving forward I plan on using the media stories to launch a sensationalized social media campaign to get the attention of tyc alumni, and anyone who knows tyc alumni. Once I have their attention I will direct them to a web site that should launch early next year with tons of resource to help these kids break free of the bondage of Texas’s criminal justice system. No religious enemas required.
Sheldon tyc#47333 II c/s

Anonymous said...

I really wanted to do a better job at writing the above post. The style is as if it was written by someone whose only education is a tyc GED.
I don’t think some of you get it, especially you people currently at tyc. High school years are very formidable years for kids; mine were spent in your agencies care. I learned things and grew in your world, Terrace dorm 4; some things I had to overcome other things have given me an advantage over the average citizen.
In Texas, the religious right wingers tend to use judgmental stigmatization of social problems through criminalization with an overall effect to punish by humiliation. The tyc corporal punishment of bygone days was to humiliate not punish, same as today’s tyc use of other forms of abuse. The verbal, mental, academic and sexual abuse is to humiliate the kids, no longer leaving short term physical marks but leaving deep lasting emotional marks.
The book I’m working on entitled, “ME and tyc” is about how to overcome the effects of tyc. The new web site is to draw together resources that can help these kid break free of the system. The social media blitz is to draw attention to the web site sensationalizing what people already know about our state 120 year old state agency for child abuse. A safe place for pedofile to work with an ample supply of unwanted children to abuse.
Although I have to say these county’s are on to you people, sending kids out of state claiming its saving the tax payers money. I think there just trying to protect kids from you people.
Sheldon tyc#47333 II c/s

Anonymous said...

Good for you Sheldon. Its so sad that after all the bad publicity, TYC still covers for their abusive employees. Still pretending to care for youth, their daily activities show their priority is cover-up and no real concern for youth in its care. Close the entire agency. Change the name and start with all new employees untouched by this present monstor of abuse and mismanagement.

Anonymous said...

Sheldon you keep throwing out that 80 percent figure but have never been able to support it with any data. Stop fanning your old TYC flames.

Anonymous said...

An average of 87% over the last decade of young men released from tyc and either returned to tyc or sent to tdjc within 2 years from their release. The data, I’m told, was accumulated from both tdjc and tyc intake data. It’s actually slightly higher if you just look at the last 5 years.

The tyc could be compared to a drug addict who does not want to get off the dope, no matter who tries to intervene, or what methodologies are implemented. The drug addict refuses to take responsibility for their depraved state of being and accept the help they so desperately need to clean themselves up and make better their lives and the lives of the people around them. Until the drug addict can accept responsibility, stop defending themselves and dumping their issues on others, can the drug addict be healed from their addictions and become a productive member of society.
Unlike the drug addict It’s my understanding that the pedophile cannot be helped, their appetite for molesting others especially weaker children can never be satiated. The pedophile will always be defensive and will not take responsibility for their actions. This is the thinking behind our sex offender law, that a pedophile can never be cured and must always be watched, stigmatized with their disgusting character flaws, not to ever be trusted around children.
The defensive nature of tyc, as evidenced in this blog and in every news article about this retched agency since its inception, makes tyc more like the pedophile. So go ahead you tyc people defend your existence, deliver the proof text that makes you more like the pedophile.
My heart goes out to all the children stuck in tyc today, stuck with those staff who know there are less staff watching to protect the children on a day where the children are a little bit more emotionally vulnerable. My Gd watch over these kids who are caught in the grip of the pedophile, tyc.

Anonymous said...

TYC has always been willing to sacrifice kids to cover their many employees that abuse youth. Rather than fire these abusers, TYC transfers them and even promotes them to managememnt positions. What is the lives of a few youth, compared to maintaining the warped culture that is TYC. Why believe a criminal minded kid, when you can choose to believe a criminal minded employee that you drink beer with.

Anonymous said...

11:22AM sounds like you speak from experience, what facility do you run?

Anonymous said...

Lets get real.....most of the people that work for TYC are f...ups, care about themselves rather than youth and are more criminal than the wards they supervise. A cause long past due...closeup, become gone and go away.

Anonymous said...

9:07 you sound angry, guess the background check on that GED you placed on your application just did not materialize. Next time try actually passing before your fraudulently place credentials on your app that surely do not possess.

Anonymous said...

922: The typical TYC maggot that has to place any blame or sins on the ones that are true citizens. You are so insecure about your job future and personal self that you attempt to put down everyone. A true TYC purvert....you are truly TYC...you. Please have a good T/giving, them crawl back into your hole and die. Your mother hopefully was not of the same slime.

Anonymous said...

10:25PM----Your spelling is off (I knew that was a fraudulent GED) and your timing, where the hell is 9:22, MORON. I am sure the condom manufacture has been rightly sued for allowing you to roam this land.

Anonymous said...

The best part of you slid down your whore mothers cunt!

Anonymous said...

Have you read the latest?

TYC school superintendent is seeking other employment.

Anonymous said...

ooohh--do share. Which school?

Anonymous said...

Man you tyc emps are rough crowd, anonymously anyway.
I just got back from a trip to Gatesville to visit the state school exhibit where I actually got to read the Morales v turdman indictment or suit. I’ve heard about the suit since I was 15 years old and finely got to see the document that started all the bs up to today. I think it was Kendrick’s copy since Kendrick’s family donated a bunch of stuff to the museum. I heard turdmans copy was all marked up in self defense rhetoric. Great pic of Kendrick, Morris, and Sneed on the opening day of Mountain View. The three stooges of MVSSB. Mack O Morris is notorious about beating state boys, it’s how he got promoted. There’s a great eye witness story on the Gatesville blog about one of Morris shenanigans involving sour milk on the cereal at Hilltop. Very similar in today’s tyc, molest a state boy and you get promoted, like tyc’s chester brookins. It’s probably safe to assume that anyone running anything and/or that’s been transferred around in tyc most likely got their position by molesting state property.

I had a great conversation at the local Dairy Queen with a former matron from Sycamore school. We were talking about Gatesville in relation to today’s tyc. She commented how disgusted she is that tyc went from a “disciplinarian” environment that actually helped kids; to a free for all love fest, as she called it, that only makes kids worst. She recently visited a tyc facility as a volunteer and noticed the matrons all dressed like ladies of the night. Said it was disgusting and blamed tyc’s fall into depravity on “the state being forced to hire all them schvartzes”. Well she actually used the N word like the kids on the train use for schvartzes. I informed her I have done a time line research that would suggest tyc’s fall into state sponsored pedophilia could be linked to fall out from affirmative action hiring policies. I did the research and picked up on this, while her and so many like her saw it play out in real life. From Gatesville to San Saba, to Mart. I let her know that since moving from the disciplinarian environment to the love fest environment, recidivism sky rocketed. She wasn’t surprised, said even the staff is counting now. I let her know the count system is no longer in effect and that the staff naturally spoke state talk, or ghetto as it’s called now.

All in all it was a fun conversation, and a reminder of what a different world Gatesville and tyc is. How foolish could a person be to discuss tyc without ever having spent time in its world? Child advocates, parents, even lawyers have battled tyc for decades with little results. M v t obviously made things worst coupled with other government policy’s. I think it’s going to take alumni and former employees to bring these tyc bustards down. One can only imagine how deep the cover up is and how far back it goes.
Sheldon

Anonymous said...

Man you tyc emps are rough crowd, anonymously anyway.
I just got back from a trip to Gatesville to visit the state school exhibit where I actually got to read the Morales v turdman indictment or suit. I’ve heard about the suit since I was 15 years old and finely got to see the document that started all the bs up to today. I think it was Kendrick’s copy since Kendrick’s family donated a bunch of stuff to the museum. I heard turdmans copy was all marked up in self defense rhetoric. Great pic of Kendrick, Morris, and Sneed on the opening day of Mountain View. The three stooges of MVSSB. Mack O Morris is notorious about beating state boys, it’s how he got promoted. There’s a great eye witness story on the Gatesville blog about one of Morris shenanigans involving sour milk on the cereal at Hilltop. Very similar in today’s tyc, molest a state boy and you get promoted, like tyc’s chester brookins. It’s probably safe to assume that anyone running anything and/or that’s been transferred around in tyc most likely got their position by molesting state property.

Anonymous said...

CONT
I had a great conversation at the local Dairy Queen with a former matron from Sycamore school. We were talking about Gatesville in relation to today’s tyc. She commented how disgusted she is that tyc went from a “disciplinarian” environment that actually helped kids; to a free for all love fest, as she called it, that only makes kids worst. She recently visited a tyc facility as a volunteer and noticed the matrons all dressed like ladies of the night. Said it was disgusting and blamed tyc’s fall into depravity on “the state being forced to hire all them schvartzes”. Well she actually used the N word like the kids on the train use for schvartzes. I informed her I have done a time line research that would suggest tyc’s fall into state sponsored pedophilia could be linked to fall out from affirmative action hiring policies. I did the research and picked up on this, while her and so many like her saw it play out in real life. From Gatesville to San Saba, to Mart. I let her know that since moving from the disciplinarian environment to the love fest environment, recidivism sky rocketed. She wasn’t surprised, said even the staff is counting now. I let her know the count system is no longer in effect and that the staff naturally spoke state talk, or ghetto as it’s called now.

All in all it was a fun conversation, and a reminder of what a different world Gatesville and tyc is. How foolish could a person be to discuss tyc without ever having spent time in its world? Child advocates, parents, even lawyers have battled tyc for decades with little results. M v t obviously made things worst coupled with other government policy’s. I think it’s going to take alumni and former employees to bring these tyc bustards down. One can only imagine how deep the cover up is and how far back it goes.
Sheldon tyc#47333 c/s

Anonymous said...

Like 1025: There are many TYCers still in the cracks and some in management that like to suck/abuse/screw kids and their families. TYC is the perfect place for these perverts and they are protected! I hope these kids and their families, friends and anyone involved in juvenile justice sues TYC out of existance. These maggots, wanna-be administrators and coverups for these scums needs to rot in hell; after they do their time in the pen. TYC and their like are kin to trash/slime/scum and the worst of mankin. Close TYC...place most of them in jail...start a new agency and fire from the top to the bottom. Like rotten apples, they are all stained and stink from their own behavior.

Anonymous said...

Evins.

Anonymous said...

cont from 11/28/2010 8:22pm
I had a great conversation at the local Dairy Queen with a former matron from Sycamore school. We were talking about Gatesville in relation to today’s tyc. She commented how disgusted she is that tyc went from a “disciplinarian” environment that actually helped kids; to a free for all love fest, as she called it, that only makes kids worst. She recently visited a tyc facility as a volunteer and noticed the matrons all dressed like ladies of the night. Said it was disgusting and blamed tyc’s fall into depravity on “the state being forced to hire all them schvartzes”. Well she actually used the N word like the kids on the train use for schvartzes. I informed her I have done a time line research that would suggest tyc’s fall into state sponsored pedophilia could be linked to fall out from affirmative action hiring policies. I did the research and picked up on this, while her and so many like her saw it play out in real life. From Gatesville to San Saba, to Mart. I let her know that since moving from the disciplinarian environment to the love fest environment, recidivism sky rocketed. She wasn’t surprised, said even the staff is counting now. I let her know the count system is no longer in effect and that the staff naturally spoke state talk, or ghetto as it’s called now.

All in all it was a fun conversation, and a reminder of what a different world Gatesville and tyc is. How foolish could a person be to discuss tyc without ever having spent time in its world? Child advocates, parents, even lawyers have battled tyc for decades with little results. M v t obviously made things worst coupled with other government policy’s. I think it’s going to take alumni and former employees to bring these tyc bustards down. One can only imagine how deep the cover up is and how far back it goes.
Sheldon tyc#47333 II c/s

Anonymous said...

266 TYC employees at central office ..... maybe all those employees in central office are justified (somehow) but seems a little bit high to me?

Anonymous said...

11/25/10 12:11 please cite your data. Please provide the document. Oh, never mind, you can't, it doesn't exist...Please at least be real.

Anonymous said...

848: Typical TYC response...deny any wrong doing even in the presence of strong evidence. Heil Hitler!

Anonymous said...

"Heil Hitler"?????

Drama Queen, get real, to even associate TYC or any State agency with Nazi Germany shows true ignorance. Can you say "Moron", because you are!!!

Anonymous said...

Deny the truth Moron...but TYC is like the NAZI's when they started.... you get real. How many have died under TYC rule?? Either you are an idiot and informed, or a true TYC'er and great at coverup!