tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post1532561155937153521..comments2024-03-15T05:45:01.402-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: AG says government needn't tell public when it will use force on their childrenGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-44639762733878187262011-05-12T13:26:41.820-05:002011-05-12T13:26:41.820-05:00Gotta teach the kiddies early on that they live in...Gotta teach the kiddies early on that they live in a Police State.Thebeshttp://twilightandthebes.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-38489048136157359002011-05-12T12:56:11.816-05:002011-05-12T12:56:11.816-05:00Out-of-control 'tough' guy cops, yet anoth...Out-of-control 'tough' guy cops, yet another violation of our rights. Add it to the list of gov’t violations of our right:<br />They violate the 1st Amendment by placing protesters in cages, banning books like “America Deceived II” and censoring the internet.<br />They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns.<br />They violate the 4th and 5th Amendment by molesting airline passengers. <br />They violate the entire Constitution by starting undeclared wars for foreign countries.<br />Impeach Obama and sweep out the Congress.<br />(Last link of Banned Book):<br />http://www.iuniverse.com/Bookstore/BookDetail.aspx?BookId=SKU-000190526Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-70178872477849294592011-05-09T09:21:45.390-05:002011-05-09T09:21:45.390-05:00Police Departments make it fairly clear what they ...Police Departments make it fairly clear what they will do reacting to typical or normal situations in the general public arena. Why then will Schools not do the same for incidents that could occur under their roof?<br /><br />Pepper spray is nasty stuff, no doubt about it. Working in youth corrections many years ago, we had to be very careful on its use and residual effects. It isn't solely the intended targets who suffers the effects. There are some forms of asthma that will react violently with the use of OC, endangering the life of the person.<br /><br />Back to the first comment, It is a shame that we have to have cops in school in the US, I agree. however, due to poor parenting and the perception of youth regarding responsibility and maturity, it is no wonder why we have them. US Parents in general have gotten into the assumption that their kids should be allowed to do whatever they want, and now we get to reap the rewards of this enabling thought process.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-37333981242049012222011-05-06T20:43:51.466-05:002011-05-06T20:43:51.466-05:00"If parents would do their jobs at home, ther..."If parents would do their jobs at home, there would be no need for school cops and "use of force" policies."<br /><br />Like the parents who do their jobs yet their innocent bystander children get sent to the hospital due to pepper spray getting into the school ventilation system?Marissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11734624055833603768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-52892846081150010902011-05-06T20:29:58.715-05:002011-05-06T20:29:58.715-05:004:20, get over yourself. Nobody said "school ...4:20, get over yourself. Nobody said "school districts are not humane," just that TYC's use of force policies are objectively more humane than those of schools that allow pepper spraying or Taser students. Why not release the policies? Why shouldn't parents know when schools will Taser their kids?<br /><br />7:00, Appleseed has a pretty good win-loss record in these matters. They don't sue unless they're on pretty solid ground. I don't think the loser-pays aspect would affect them much at all.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-62838120057267759322011-05-06T20:04:52.607-05:002011-05-06T20:04:52.607-05:00Well, it is interesting that they won't releas...Well, it is interesting that they won't release their policies.<br /><br />Use of force should be directly proportional to resistance.<br /><br />For instance, if two young men walk into a school and begin killing students with guns and knifes.... Well, that would be an issue where I would want police to enter the school and kill or capture the offenders where my child attends.<br /><br />However, if a youth threatens a teacher and is not being entirely aqueousant when ordered to leave the classroom, then perhaps a simple "come along" hold would be needed.<br /><br />I think that it would be fine to release use of force policy unless you are speaking about tactics used when a deadly incident occurs. For instance, the fact that an assistant principal will call out the phrase, "Will King Kuppa report to the office" (just an example) when there is an active shooter situation should be a secret of the school district so that offenders cannot counteract the warnings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-10038076650135351732011-05-06T19:00:17.756-05:002011-05-06T19:00:17.756-05:00Here's to hoping the Legislature passes the &q...Here's to hoping the Legislature passes the "loser pays" litigation reforms. There's no telling how many tax dollars are wasted every year defending these vexatious suits file by Appleseed, the ACLU, and other such "public policy" advocacy groups. What a joke! If parents would do their jobs at home, there would be no need for school cops and "use of force" policies. This kind of crap is a direct result of the prohibition of corporal punishment. All of this touchy feely moral relativism is causing this country to go to hell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-16376996064224362942011-05-06T18:13:45.299-05:002011-05-06T18:13:45.299-05:00all i know is anyone dumb enough to use quazi-swat...all i know is anyone dumb enough to use quazi-swat team tactics on my child in a school setting had better get to the nearest national border before i catch them... right along with whatever idiot school board idiot who authoreized it!rodsmithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-69231978253361212012011-05-06T16:20:48.859-05:002011-05-06T16:20:48.859-05:00School districts are not humane? The violent cultu...School districts are not humane? The violent culture of the community seeps into the school creating tremendous pressure for everyone.<br /><br />Some say it's simple - just blame the teachers and school administrators.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-77251576310805554582011-05-06T12:30:46.220-05:002011-05-06T12:30:46.220-05:0012:25, focus, please. What does immigration have t...12:25, focus, please. What does immigration have to do with when the government can use a Taser on your kid?<br /><br />Ham2mtr, you're 100% right, TYC's policy is more humane, which is probably why the districts won't release theirs. Who wants to tell parents their kids are more likely to be pepper sprayed at school than if they're sent to a youth prison?Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-87033339590872810182011-05-06T12:26:55.431-05:002011-05-06T12:26:55.431-05:00Looks like Texas Youth Commission is more humane t...Looks like Texas Youth Commission is more humane then some school districts. TYC maintains a no spray list to identify those youth who are medically fragile and should not be srayed. Parents are also notified of the full use of force policy. <br /><br />Ham2mtrAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-13073478515461314232011-05-06T12:25:17.242-05:002011-05-06T12:25:17.242-05:00Appleseed Centers are active in promoting immigran...Appleseed Centers are active in promoting immigrants' rights. Opposing laws that would deny rights to immigrants is a top priority.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-9891878038495754292011-05-06T12:10:08.016-05:002011-05-06T12:10:08.016-05:00Why would you even have police in your schools?
To...Why would you even have police in your schools?<br />To me that seems to be absurd. <br />Only Americans would voluntarily give power over their kids lives to the kind of person commonly found wearing a police uniform, let alone the mouth breathers which end up doing so in a school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com