tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post1773819451669674729..comments2024-03-15T05:45:01.402-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: 'Crashing the system,' crime lab follies, and a route off death rowGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-14284725094515295922012-04-01T13:31:30.874-05:002012-04-01T13:31:30.874-05:00@Grits
'Outside of a few rapper fantasies, th...@Grits<br /><br />'Outside of a few rapper fantasies, there no more exists a "No Snitching campaign" than there is a "war on Christmas.'<br /><br />Perhaps you should start a campaign to tell the anti-snitchers (especially those who beat up or kill snitches) that they are participating in a non-existent campaign? And perhaps you could somehow stop people from selling T-Shirts and other memorabilia emblazoned with anti-snitch messages? And while you are at you really should do something about those rappers and their millions of fans who are mistakenly campaigning against snitching - if they keep repeating the lie enough times it just might become true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-70133743808843084502012-03-28T13:28:11.849-05:002012-03-28T13:28:11.849-05:00Mr Langham asked a very good question.
"What...Mr Langham asked a very good question.<br /><br />"What is the economic impact of turning a citizen into a felon?"<br /><br />If I may? IMHO - When the laws are correctly applied and the guilty are properly arrested and convicted via a jury verdict based on 'all' evidence, that has received lawful instruction and wasn't allowed to bully other jurors - the impact is felt but rightfully so.<br /><br />When a police incident report; shows a crime victim moments afterwards as describing suspect(s) having absolutly nothing in common with the suspect(s) in custody, shows a Det. confronting victim after positively picking out suspect(s) that look nothing like the original description, shows Det. allowing a second chance to describe, shows second chance not even being close to the original or the actual descriptions, shows Det. seeking charges anyway. The DA's Intake is shown obtaining charges anyway. Voters go thru voir dire only to be released when plea bargain games are initiated just because suspect(s) was on probation at time of arrest. <br /><br />Well, the impact is felt but negatively and forever by both the victim of the system and taxpayers that beleive they got 'em. The real criminal(s) remain free to terrorize as the voters & taxpayers remain clueless as to what just happend.<br />Thanks.Thomas R. Griffithhttp://www.projectnotguilty.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-39149918958120941242012-03-28T12:53:29.241-05:002012-03-28T12:53:29.241-05:00Hey DA Confidential aka: Mr. Mark Pryor,
"W...Hey DA Confidential aka: Mr. Mark Pryor, <br /><br />"What laws would those crashing the system be looking to change? Just curious if there's an agreed-upon list."<br /><br />Even though we all know there's no way in hell that we are going to see an end to the infamous 'Play Bargain' games anytime soon and that you are just being silly or simply just bored, allow me to offer this.<br /><br />As it is now, the law allows the (unqualified) Divorce Estate / Will specialist to dabble in criminal defense vs. mandating referring out. They consult with consumers (ex: elderly parents of incarcerated) seeking felony jury trial representation, take down payments, participate in voir dire, file pre-trial discovery motions 30 days prior to trial, don't do anything when the Court Orders are left blank (ignored) yet file another "Ready for Trial notice and plea bargain at lunch recess.<br /><br />*Sadly, the Real CDLs seem to not give much of a shit about the fakers & shakers attempting to do their line of expertise. To this day I haven't heard any of them say one word or seen anything done to prevent the dabbling. <br /><br />Guess who loves it? That's right, you and your prosecutor colleagues & the lazy ass judges that enable the play bargain games to be conducted & finalized in chambers but documented as being in "Open Court". <br /><br />No felony jury trials past lunch recess, hitting the titty bars and /or links by 2:oo and everyones happy. Especially the never been all the way to verdict crowd that tells clients to take "the plea you are going to prison just for being arrested while on probation at time of arrest". <br /><br />Thanks for asking.Thomas R. Griffithhttp://www.projectnotguilty.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-27689347858142640522012-03-28T07:11:09.159-05:002012-03-28T07:11:09.159-05:00What is the economic impact of turning a citizen i...What is the economic impact of turning a citizen into a felon?Robert Langhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16497658569363397644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-71306449152096147792012-03-28T05:11:11.284-05:002012-03-28T05:11:11.284-05:002:43, I didn't say that, I said the idea of &...2:43, I didn't say that, I said the idea of "No Snitching campaign" is fantasy. Tis true.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-558570373537026022012-03-27T14:43:26.289-05:002012-03-27T14:43:26.289-05:00Nobody is afraid to rat on the gangsters.Nobody is afraid to rat on the gangsters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-84237921366267805042012-03-27T14:16:02.670-05:002012-03-27T14:16:02.670-05:00"the 'No Snitching' campaign is worki..."the 'No Snitching' campaign is working"<br /><br />Outside of a few rapper fantasies, there no more exists a "No Snitching campaign" than there is a "war on Christmas." <br /><br />Miranda, very good reaction you pointed to from A Public Defender. <a href="http://apublicdefender.com/2012/03/11/taxing-the-system" rel="nofollow">Here's the hyperlink</a> for others' convenience.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-52464547223128867832012-03-27T14:00:09.204-05:002012-03-27T14:00:09.204-05:00Crime is down and the "No Snitching" cam...Crime is down and the "No Snitching" campaign is working. If no one will talk, no one gets arrested. It all looks good. Just say. "I didn't see nothing."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-80201157643196857702012-03-27T11:03:52.885-05:002012-03-27T11:03:52.885-05:00I'm curious, "A Critic," as to what ...I'm curious, "A Critic," as to what changes you would make to the system which allows people to plead guilty to crimes that they commit?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-7705410379726003722012-03-27T10:57:12.601-05:002012-03-27T10:57:12.601-05:00Grits,
This article was commented on at http://ap...Grits,<br /><br />This article was commented on at http://apublicdefender.com/2012/03/11/taxing-the-system/. I think it presents some good commentary from a criminal defense lawyer on the idea, better than I could articulate.Mirandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-52626249487726517482012-03-26T20:42:09.787-05:002012-03-26T20:42:09.787-05:00"Also, and I'm not being purposefully den..."Also, and I'm not being purposefully dense here, but is there something inherently wrong with a system that lets guilty parties plead to their crimes?"<br /><br />No, but there is something inherently wrong with a system that coerces innocent people to plead guilty to exercising their rights as if that were a crime.A Criticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-41921608079127969782012-03-26T20:39:01.993-05:002012-03-26T20:39:01.993-05:00"What laws would those crashing the system be..."What laws would those crashing the system be looking to change?"<br /><br />Anything that prohibits the exercise of a right (i.e. the prohibition of drugs, guns, business). <br /><br />Anything that requires a permission slip to exercise a right (i.e. other drugs or the same drugs for other reasons, driving, guns, business, etc). <br /><br />That should do nicely for a start.A Criticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-58362720754881428032012-03-26T14:48:49.436-05:002012-03-26T14:48:49.436-05:00What laws would those crashing the system be looki...What laws would those crashing the system be looking to change? Just curious if there's an agreed-upon list.<br />And I think my prosecutor colleague is right, one of the things you'd end up with is justice delayed (and you know what that equals!). People in jail on relatively minor cases, but unable to afford bail, could conceivably spend years awaiting trial. <br />Also, and I'm not being purposefully dense here, but is there something inherently wrong with a system that lets guilty parties plead to their crimes? Don't we want that as one mechanism of the criminal justice system?D.A. Confidentialhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08445074681227492215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-59939945995685083232012-03-26T13:24:54.134-05:002012-03-26T13:24:54.134-05:00And better yet we can keep guilty criminals out on...And better yet we can keep guilty criminals out on the street longer to victimize other innocent people! I'm sure that will increase public support for the to pro-criminal cause! What a wonderful idea! The last time there was a backlog, as I recall, the Legislature built about 100,000 new prison beds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-27529542421592558552012-03-26T13:05:21.096-05:002012-03-26T13:05:21.096-05:00It is a great idea, the citizens can finally screw...It is a great idea, the citizens can finally screw a system that has been screwing them.Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-26351743605594547352012-03-26T13:05:15.098-05:002012-03-26T13:05:15.098-05:00So, how will we know if the system "crashed&q...So, how will we know if the system "crashed"? No specific time limit has been set for "Speedy" trials, so if there is a huge backlog on the docket, we have to look at either expanding the courts (and raising taxes to do so) or doing perfunctory/rubber stamp trials to speed things along (cheaper). Be careful what you wish for?diogenesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-34319764594192162742012-03-26T13:02:05.862-05:002012-03-26T13:02:05.862-05:00I think the idea of crashing the system sounds lik...I think the idea of crashing the system sounds like a great idea! Who wants to volunteer to be first to go to trial?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-5470820776446036062012-03-26T12:45:44.990-05:002012-03-26T12:45:44.990-05:00Scott, Is that really possible or even realistic? ...Scott, Is that really possible or even realistic? Crashing the system? Could there be any criminal lialbity for the organizers of such a protest? I am sure the prosecutors would at the very least try for an obstruction charge against the organizers...That episode would be interesting.Leenoreply@blogger.com