tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post2405300917400298328..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Police interrogation a 'guilt presumptive' processGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-61906885417842269092010-03-30T09:57:38.578-05:002010-03-30T09:57:38.578-05:00Oh yea, and the next time one of you our someone y...Oh yea, and the next time one of you our someone you know gets robbed, raped, or murdered I guess you might as well not bother calling the police since we arent the "good guys" and we arent there to protect and serve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-21523224094419187212010-03-30T09:54:56.961-05:002010-03-30T09:54:56.961-05:00I wonder if any of you are police officers or have...I wonder if any of you are police officers or have ever been enrolled in a Criminal Justice education program. Then maybe you would all actually know what you are talking about. You would also understand the reasoning for the "tactics" used in an interview/interrogation setting. Try actually taking an interview/interrogation class at your local college if it is offered, and become learned on the subject.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-80046853345787051492008-08-27T13:25:00.000-05:002008-08-27T13:25:00.000-05:00"The poor are guilty when the cuffs go on.The rest..."The poor are guilty when the cuffs go on.The rest are guilty when the money is gone.Great system."<BR/><BR/>Well said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-61024743777280180492008-08-27T11:01:00.000-05:002008-08-27T11:01:00.000-05:00The recent Rothgery v. Gillespie decision could pl...The recent <I>Rothgery v. Gillespie</I> decision could play an unexpected role in the future of these interrogations. <BR/><BR/>The Supreme Court ruled that the Texas courts have been underestimating the importance of the article 15.17 hearing. In this hearing, a judge informs the defendant of his right to attorney, right to remain silent, and his right to <B>terminate the police interview at any time</B>.<BR/><BR/>The way the congress wrote the law it pretty much says the arresting officer needs to take the suspect to the judge immediately. The courts were pretty lax about that in the past if the officer gave the <I>Miranda</I> warnings but it will be interesting to see if they take the urgency of the 15.17 hearing more seriously now that SCOTUS has ruled that TX was underestimating its significance vis-à-vis one of the fundamental rights of the accused.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-65878607761105022922008-08-27T07:49:00.000-05:002008-08-27T07:49:00.000-05:00In Dallas County,they just reduced the public defe...In Dallas County,they just reduced the public defender's office by two felony defense attorneys,while the remainder has less than five years experience and can be hired without experience.On the other hand,the paid defense attorneys don't want to work for their fees,they want you to take the plea bargain. If you aren't broke going into the system,you'll be broke coming out.Attoneys delay the trials and cite for investigative reasons,but they aren't investigating,merely delaying but depleting your retainer.Only the very wealthy can get any sense of justice.The poor are guilty when the cuffs go on.The rest are guilty when the money is gone.Great system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-84121921451952827622008-08-27T00:30:00.000-05:002008-08-27T00:30:00.000-05:00How is any of this a surprise to people? Cops are...How is any of this a surprise to people? Cops are not the 'good guys'. They are there to infringe the rights of someone accused, or thought to have committed a crime. They are not there to find truth, they are there to help convict people.<BR/><BR/>Anyone that believes that Police in any form or fashion were put into place 'to protect and server' has always been a few rocks shy of a dump truck. Police, are arms of 'justice'. They are employed to beat dissenters, cart people off to jail, to ensure the government in power stays in power. It is there to oppress its citizens, not protect them. If Police were around to protect you would see far fewer police beatings, and far more police rescues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-69170809872336168642008-08-26T23:41:00.000-05:002008-08-26T23:41:00.000-05:00In Texas it's more like "Guilty UNLESS proven inno...In Texas it's more like "Guilty UNLESS proven innocent"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-88554470946631800932008-08-26T20:12:00.000-05:002008-08-26T20:12:00.000-05:00I have long wondered why that phrase isn't, "Innoc...I have long wondered why that phrase isn't, "Innocent UNLESS proven guilty?" That suits the American system much better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-41918706096162941752008-08-26T12:33:00.000-05:002008-08-26T12:33:00.000-05:00The entire criminal justice system has become "gui...The entire criminal justice system has become "guilt presumptive". We recently had a local trial that got a lot of media attention. Based on comments from people on media websites most people in the community assumed the guy was guilty before the trial. One lady even said she wouldn't make a very good juror because the guy looked guilty and he wouldn't be on trial if he hadn't done something. I would be some of thejurors went in with the same idea. All that was necessary was for the prosecution to confirm their assumptions and give them a reason ( any reason at all ) to disbelieve the defense. This resulted in a man that I think was probably innocent being sentenced to life in prison. We should really stop saying that someone is "innocent until proven guilty". That is at best a myth, a lie. Our system, law enforcement, prosecutors, judges, jurors and even most of the public often presupposes guilt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-88579723569694191152008-08-26T11:09:00.000-05:002008-08-26T11:09:00.000-05:00I would imagine that taking a gun into an interrog...I would imagine that taking a gun into an interrogation room and holding at the back of a suspects head might induce a false confession too......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com