tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post2478581621907667184..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: TYC Conservatorship By The NumbersGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger108125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-88608083299844428942007-05-09T18:08:00.000-05:002007-05-09T18:08:00.000-05:005/7 @ 3:58pm, I'm with you on that. It's funny to...5/7 @ 3:58pm, I'm with you on that. It's funny to me that we keep reading bits and pieces of the bill all over the place and nobody every mentions that everyone is getting ready to be "at will". I believe they are trying to slip that one in on us. Well, the cat is out of the bag and we'd better get on the phones, emails, etc to the people at the legislature and get that amended out of there or a lot of people are going to be sorry. The people I know with power are all shady enough to send you packing at the slightest thing you do that they don't agree with. I wouldn't have to be much of anything, just something they didn't want to hear and there's not a darn thing you could really do about it. Hopefully the people in the legislature have figured out that administration in TYC can't be trusted in the least and this will just pave the way for a dictator type relationship in this agency with supervisors running over people even when they are correct in what they may be doing. I agree, there isn't anybody who wants to stay employed that will come forth with information for fear of losing their jobs. It's pretty hard proving that you were fired illegally or as retaliation even if you were up to hiring a lawyer while you were unemployed. Pray for us all that this doesn't stay in the bill. Start the phones ringing and emails going right now or suffer the consequences. Let them know we'll do whatever we can to see that they continue to work in the legislature "at will" if they don't get it out of there and then got to the polls and remove them if they don't. They do have to answer to the voters you know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-37945113202789078492007-05-07T18:52:00.000-05:002007-05-07T18:52:00.000-05:00You're just now noticing the "at will" part of Hin...You're just now noticing the "at will" part of Hinojosa's grand plan? If you read further, you'll see that the ombudsman and the chief IG are "far cause only." Evidently, they deserve more protection than the rest of us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-70509159991504676772007-05-07T18:21:00.000-05:002007-05-07T18:21:00.000-05:00I still want someone to asnwer to the Brookins sca...I still want someone to asnwer to the Brookins scandal at TDCJ, and the allowing him to molest youth. If TDCJ would have done their jobs this man would not have been allowed to molest children. Talk about a law suit, parenst are you listening, include TDCJ as well as TYC when you file, they are just as culpable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-7528121200480631462007-05-07T15:56:00.000-05:002007-05-07T15:56:00.000-05:00You've got to be kidding me. Now after all the ho...You've got to be kidding me. Now after all the hoopla of people being afraid to come forward with information about the goings-on in TYC, they want to make it an AT WILL agency? They must be out of thier minds. Does anyone think that an employee of that agency would want to even suggest that someone in power in that "good old boy" (it still is, just different good old boys now) agency is doing something wrong if that goes through? Let me see, I can hear it now. Oh No, this has nothing to do with you turning in my good old buddy for doing anything to one of those children. We simply don't need your services anymore. Have a nice life. One other thing. Do they really think that their anonymous survey of staff really means anything? It was bad enough just looking at the number of employees who didn't trust the supervisors or the people at C.O. When you realize that they gave you a log in password that was yours alone, do these people (who by the way nobody trusts) really think that the employees would be foolish enough to let the world know what they really think about the people in power knowing they gave them this password that they could track if they wanted to? It's astounding that so many of them even took the chance of saying they didn't trust them. I'd say it's much, much higher than the results of the survey. Now if they could somehow get a real anonymous survey they'd see that the employees in the trenches don't trust them at all, period. I think their lack of trust has made them so paranoid that they'd never get the truth out of them for fear of retaliation no matter how they conducted the survey. And now "at will" with the final answer being TYC. Like I said, You must be kidding. Wake up and smell the coffee. If you think the kids were mistreated before, just hang on. Nobody and I mean nobody will report anything about someone like Brookins or Hernandez or anyone with any power or who might have friends with power. Everybody is going to become blind, deaf and dumb. Let me see, how did Ollie North say it.....I don't recall? That sounds like a pretty good answer to me if anyone asks if you were aware of any incident. Come to think of it, I don't even recall typing this blog entry and I haven't even submitted it yet. I guess it was bound to happen. Memory loss is just one of those things that happens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-34636583507563743412007-05-06T20:33:00.000-05:002007-05-06T20:33:00.000-05:00Ok, I'm getting sick and tired of this political d...Ok, I'm getting sick and tired of this political double talking stuff. Victory Field was listed in the fiscal notes of HB 2807 on April 9 I believe along with Marlin and John Shero as the facilities that were targeted for closure. We contacted our Representative, Rick Hardcastle, and were told that listing Victory Field was a mistake and shouldn't have been in there. I suspected that the mistake was not that we were targeted for closing, it was actually listing us that was a mistake. I'm sure they would rather not list anyone but leave us all in the air so we couldn't raise cain about it. The bill now says that due to the reduction in incarcerated youth, some facilities would be closed. Which I suspected corrected the statement that we were not supposed to be listed. Well, now we aren't but we have no idea just who's on their mind. It could be anybody. He also told us that we were funded for two more years at least. I felt he wasn't being dishonest about his statement, he just might be leaving something out which is something I see politicians and people in power do all the time. They don't necesserily lie, they just don't tell the whole truth by leaving important details out. This sounds like one of the thinking errors we teach the students to recognize. So we could be funded for the next two years but we're going to close anyway. Nobody seems to know what's going on or they are just keeping their mouths shut about what they do know. In Sunday's Statesman, the following is printed. <BR/> "Two already have been identified in the proposed state budget for conversion to adult prisons: the Marlin Orientation and Assessment Center and the John Shero State Juvenile Correctional Facility in San Saba, both of which began life as adult lockups.<BR/><BR/>Officials confirmed the latest targets for closure could include the remote Sheffield Boot Camp, 100 miles south of Midland, and the Victory Field Academy near Wichita Falls, a site whose two-story design has drawn complaints that it is unsuited for use as a prison. As a replacement, legislative leaders are privately discussing the possibility of opening a lockup near Houston, home to nearly one in four of the state's incarcerated youths."<BR/><BR/>That looks pretty clear to me that VFCA is still targeted to close and somebody seems to know it. Officials confirmed??????? Which officials??????? I'm guessing that they don't want to tell us because they don't want us to take jobs somewhere else and beat them to the punch. They just want to leave us hanging until they're ready and then hit us with the news when it's convenient to them. This is nuts. When one looks at the problems that are occuring across the state, VFCA is way down the list and their TABE scores are at or near the top showing that the students are getting a good education yet they are on the list for closure and West Texas who is as remote as they get and can't staff the correctional care folks much less the teachers and have had all these troubles aren't. This just doesn't make sense. I've even heard that the local people have offered to build 2 new state of the art dorms at VFCA to help keep it open yet we're still targeted. We need some representation in the House and Senate who care about us. Apparently our Senators/Representatives are looking out for other things instead and then giving us the run around about these issues. It doesn't seem that they are watching out for us at all. We have to find these things out, then call them and then they have to think about it a day or two before they can come up with some other lie wrapped around a little truth. I just hope and pray that VFCA stays open. We're doing lots of good things for kids and deserve it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-20247726795316871652007-05-06T18:03:00.000-05:002007-05-06T18:03:00.000-05:00Hey fellas... does this sound familiar?"Copies of ...Hey fellas... does this sound familiar?<BR/><BR/>"Copies of the reports show that in June 1995, while Brookins was a guard captain at Cotulla, an inmate accused him of engaging in oral sex in the prison barber shop. Four others claimed Brookins had made sexual overtures to them.<BR/><BR/>Polygraph tests were administered to the convicts. Two registered as untruthful and one was inconclusive, according to the report. But two others were shown as truthful: the prisoner who alleged he had exchanged oral sex with Brookins and another who said Brookins asked him to watch videotapes with him." <BR/><BR/>"A prison investigator dismissed the case, citing Brookins' denials and the lack of witnesses."<BR/><BR/>Uh oh... looks like the OIG is lacking credibility now.... what a circus!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-58842743758987131752007-05-06T17:31:00.000-05:002007-05-06T17:31:00.000-05:00This is deplorable information. Brookins did this ...This is deplorable information. Brookins did this at TDC and they never told us? This is just awful. How in the hell can anyone justify TDC administrators being in our court now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-35303752098933944672007-05-06T16:30:00.000-05:002007-05-06T16:30:00.000-05:00It should have been reported to us when his employ...It should have been reported to us when his employment verification was requested. This is exactly how we got Brookins...I knew it...I knew the perv was perv when he was with TDCJ and I just knew it would come out eventually. I cannot believe TDCJ didn't think TYC needed to know about these accusations before we hired him. Good Lord, how could they NOT pass along that information even IF we didn't specifically ask for it????? Someone please wake me up from this nightmare! And now here we are with Moriarty leading the OIG investigations going on in OUR agency and he says TDCJ didn't pass along pervert information becase WE DIDN'T ASK FOR IT!!! WHATEVER - and the lege is worried about TYC?? I think TDCJ needs some attention. And now we have their executive team creeping into TYC one by one. This is almost getting to be funny - I need to write a book and I'll even us spell check. A screenplay might be better:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-58725126503983384702007-05-06T12:27:00.000-05:002007-05-06T12:27:00.000-05:00If this is true we definitely need someone to look...If this is true we definitely need someone to look at this. How can we stand by and allow what is taking place at TYC and not raise questions about TDCJ.<BR/><BR/>A Captain at TDCJ, is that not in a position where you can influence inmates to perform.<BR/><BR/>Why was this not reported to TYC prior to hiring this man to work with Juveniles?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-78921404605004536222007-05-06T12:03:00.000-05:002007-05-06T12:03:00.000-05:00Outrageous!"Twelve years ago, similar accusations ...Outrageous!<BR/><BR/>"Twelve years ago, similar accusations were made against Brookins while he was a Texas prison guard. He denied them and kept his job, though he failed two polygraph tests. Two of his accusers — prisoners at the Cotulla Unit south of San Antonio — passed theirs, according to newly disclosed investigative reports obtained by the American-Statesman."<BR/><BR/>Brookins sould have been fired from TDCJ back then. If they had done their job then, we wouldn't be discussing this today. And now watch, as the current leadership fires more executives, they'll be replaced by TDCJ personnel. That's just peachy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-34357357962900365552007-05-06T11:39:00.000-05:002007-05-06T11:39:00.000-05:00First they sent us Brookins, now they sent us Owen...First they sent us Brookins, now they sent us Owens. Hell, at least the papers told us Owens had his own sexual abuse cover up in TDCJ. I guess as long as it's public knowledge, the lege and Perry think it's ok to have him in charge of our agency. I guess when Kimbrough takes off, they're going to leave us Owens in charge of it all since TDCJ isn't going to want him back either. Thanks TDCJ for giving us your pervs. and corrupt, we were so short of them on our own. <BR/>They need to make us little tubs of vaseline to hang on our TYC badges we wear every day. At least we would have a little lube when we get screwed on a daily basis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-42994444538882205892007-05-06T11:27:00.000-05:002007-05-06T11:27:00.000-05:00Grits and all of you TYC staff, have you read toda...Grits and all of you TYC staff, have you read todays Austin American Statesman, page A-6? It has a picture of Ray Brookins and the headline is "Accused Administrator (Ray) failed polygraph years ago".<BR/><BR/>Apparently while employed with TDCJ Ray had inmates perform oral sex on him for favors. Ray failed two polygraph tests and two inmates passed theirs.<BR/><BR/>TDCJ states TYC did not ask for this information prior to hiring him. And you think we have problems. If you have knowledge that one of your Captains who is employed for you is applying to work with Juveniles is it not your obligation to inform them, if not by policy but morally?<BR/><BR/>This whole charade might never have happened if TDCJ would have done something back when all this occurred but did nothing. I guess it was their way of getting rid of a bad apple, too bad so many people at TYC had to pay the price for TDCJ's sins.<BR/><BR/>Can we not open this up and dig just a little deeper, I am sure we would find more skeletons in someones closet.<BR/><BR/>The officials at TDCJ, all of them that allowed this should be walked out like the ones at TYC, I am not sure if any TYC staff used the excuse "They did not ask so we did not tell" but apparently it is working for TDCJ personnel!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-53880633492498909022007-05-06T10:54:00.000-05:002007-05-06T10:54:00.000-05:00We not only need better health care, but we need b...We not only need better health care, but we need better training for staff to recognize medical issues that can mimic "bad behavior". I saw a staff restrain a kid thinking he was out of control but he was having a seizure. The kid was marching and got out of the line and was yelling and throwing his arms around, kind of wobbly. The staff retrained him thinking he was trying to run for the fence. We were yelling at the staff to get off of him and to call the infirmary. The guy finally got off of him but it was heartbreaking to see this kid treated like he was doing something wrong when he didn't even know what was happening. <BR/>I've seen other kids who have the "blank stare" seizures and staff think they're being disrespectful in not responding. I've even seen a kid in security that went off in a non-stop raging, crying and yelling of incoherent babble for over 10 minutes. He was on the floor rocking and drooling. I was the only one in a room of 6 other staff who had any idea what was happening. The rest just told him to be quiet or he was going to be written up and kept longer for failing to follow security rules.<BR/>Staff have no idea how different seizures can look. What is bad is that obviously these kid's medications aren't being adjusted because no one is documenting the seizures because they don't recognize them as anything other than bad behavior.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-8801775183570026992007-05-06T09:09:00.000-05:002007-05-06T09:09:00.000-05:00On the healthcare issue...take a look at the video...On the healthcare issue...take a look at the video archive of the hearing on Friday if you want in on some interesting info. UTMB and Tech are trying to figure out how to get out of their contract (primarily UTMB-the lady from Tech didn't say much at all). I guess they've made their profit off of TYC and don't see anything in it for them anymore. Oh well...why am I not surprised. And all Whitmire wants to do is dog on WTSS. Good grief, give it a rest why don't you. It is interesting to note that he was asking for info on the WTSS medical services, and the lady who is over the region, Ms. Tally or something, stated she had been overseeing our facility for seven or eight years but had never even met our contract psychiatrist. Hell, I don't even work with the guy and I know him! What is up with this? Even more interesting was the info from the Brownwood nurse about the youth on psych drugs who hadn't seen a psychiatrist since January??? Hell, we're in bum #$%&@ Egypt according to some - and we manage to get a psychiatrist out here. I'm sure I don't know what all is involved with contract personnel, but geez, we did alot better than this when the medical staff was our own...I agree with UTMB on one thing - we need to let you out of your contract - we can do better!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-29731221632282817232007-05-05T22:07:00.000-05:002007-05-05T22:07:00.000-05:00The health care for the youth has been and will co...The health care for the youth has been and will continue to be a joke. Back when TYC had their own Doctors (contracted locally) and nurses the system actually worked.<BR/><BR/>Who changed this system? I am sure Whitmires prints are all over it. This is what gets me, you chide the UTMB/Texas Tech folks but who placed then in this control?<BR/><BR/>If they had any integrity they would look at the old system and ty to bring it back. But it was not cost effective, but I guarantee you the staff loved it they were not placed in a situation where they had to drive 6 to 8 hours one way to take a youth for treatment.<BR/><BR/>Take it easy Whitsfoe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-3368068620642888472007-05-05T21:27:00.000-05:002007-05-05T21:27:00.000-05:00On healthcare.... they, the ledge, put UTMB and TT...On healthcare.... they, the ledge, put UTMB and TTMB in control in (1994-1995?)<BR/><BR/>We hated it then and we don't like it now. Those nurses used to be TYC employees, and the treatment those kids received then was much better than when UTMB and TTMB came on.<BR/><BR/>I have to give credit to TTMB, but not UTMB.<BR/><BR/>Go look at prior articles on UTMB's involvement in Dallas County in the DMN. They reported it two years ago. Same issues, different places... and who voted to approve that plan then, that's in effect now? Houston comes to mind...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-78888239975304564842007-05-05T20:51:00.000-05:002007-05-05T20:51:00.000-05:00Well, Whitsfoe, welcome to politics! I worked for ...Well, Whitsfoe, welcome to politics! I worked for 68 political campaigns professionally before I started to do this policy work, and I never worked for a politician who wasn't full of themselves. <BR/><BR/>Think about it - by definition to decide to run for office you must believe that you should be the person in charge! They ALL think that, but you judge them by what they do, or don't do, not their petty conceits and CERTAINLY not what they say. If mere arrogance were enough to justify their ouster nobody would do anything but run candidates against incumbents. I'd rather work with whoever's there and try to change the law.<BR/><BR/>Besides, in reference to yesterday's hearing, the voters expect SOMEBODY to have asked "where were you?" He was harsh with the UTMB people and went on too long, but maybe it sent a message: Fear is a great motivator.<BR/><BR/>Those same guys run the adult health system, and by God SOMEBODY needs to put them on the hot seat! best,Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-21146903906570942092007-05-05T20:47:00.000-05:002007-05-05T20:47:00.000-05:00You may have a crumb, but I have the loaf to throw...You may have a crumb, but I have the loaf to throw at Whitmire.<BR/><BR/>This guy is not a statesman. He’s an embarrassment.<BR/><BR/>I don't care what Patrick's "drop of the ball" was, Whitmire's performance in addressing the issue was just nasty, if not simply outrageous. That was a tell-tell of this guy. His demeanor was a little concerning, especially when the “dean” didn't have a clear line of thinking and was fumbling his words on Patrick’s retort. <BR/><BR/>Whitmire is an ass, and we won't forgive him. The "Dean" is now wearing a dunce’s cap. See you in Houston - Whitmire.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-59214119465933890402007-05-05T19:54:00.000-05:002007-05-05T19:54:00.000-05:00Grits, the problem I have with Whitmire is his cav...Grits, the problem I have with Whitmire is his cavalier attitude toward the commons man.I agree Patrick did not have his shit together when he did what he did.<BR/><BR/>But in all honesty the man comes across as his sh_t does not stink. He belittles folks and if we met up in a <BR/>bar and someone portrayed this type of attitude he would get his pansy ass whooped.<BR/><BR/>He and the others in the Senate are not worried about pay raises for TYC oe TDCJ, but if money is left over we will throw you a crumb. I got a crumb you can chew on, whitmire.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-14746040064901961412007-05-05T18:19:00.000-05:002007-05-05T18:19:00.000-05:00Whisfoe, on the exchange between Whitmire and Patr...Whisfoe, on the exchange between Whitmire and Patrick, the problem with your analysis is that Whitmire was right and Patrick was wrong. If he wanted to make massive cuts - including NINE figures in drug treatment funds - he should have proposed it to the Finance Committee. It's REAL grandstanding, worse IMO than Whitmire's variety, when you hand it out to the media then wave them around on the floor when other members haven't even seen what you're talking about. That's just common legislative courtesy.<BR/><BR/>My suggestion: Wait till the end of session to decide whose campaigns to work on in 2008 - you never know who will turn out to be the heroes and goats, and the Dean of the Senate could still surprise you. He's certainly a critical piece on the conference committee to maximizing TYC pay hikes! best,Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-69443384218040600862007-05-05T17:05:00.000-05:002007-05-05T17:05:00.000-05:00That's got my vote.... I'll be heading to Houston ...That's got my vote.... I'll be heading to Houston to personally campaign for Whitmire's opponent. And believe me folks, it's not just his brutality towards TYC that bothers me, he has been an abusive senator for a long, long time and he needs to go. You should have seen how he tore into senator Patrick last month.... after Patrick "lectured" Whitmire's "best friend." That was a joke and an utter embarrassment to this state.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-1632188518939946462007-05-05T16:46:00.000-05:002007-05-05T16:46:00.000-05:00Good post "trying to Hang in There", how is Curtis...Good post "trying to Hang in There", how is Curtis doing? <BR/><BR/>I agree with what you say about our elected officials, they need to go. Not one of them was shown the door but quite a few TYC have, not saying some did not deserve to be shown the door, but how many of our elected officials knew as much as our CO staff and I have seen no outcry to remove them. <BR/><BR/>One of them (Dutton) received a DUI in Austin 3 weeks ago and if that would have been a TYC staff he/she would have been fired.<BR/><BR/>I would like to see TYC staff unite (get out the vote)and actually make an impact upon our livelihoods rather than have these current Bozo's spout off about how they are here to help us.<BR/><BR/>I don't know about the rest of you TYC folks but I don't feel rescued, and I am not a damsel and never will pretend to be. VOTE THEM OUTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-24630297278056907832007-05-05T15:25:00.000-05:002007-05-05T15:25:00.000-05:00Has anyone else taken a look at the 'in depth' rep...Has anyone else taken a look at the 'in depth' report from the joint committee??? I don't about you guys but we haven't seen most of these recommendations implemented yet and it's way past the target dates...does anyone else have a different student grievance clerk? As far as I know, that process hasn't changed and it seemed to be one the lege was particularly critical of - what's up with that? Frankly, I'm living for the end of May when none of these people will want to be bothered with us anymore. They will conveniently forget there was a problem and we'll all be left with the mess and whoever the Gov wants will be in charge...<BR/><BR/>It was brought to my attention not long ago that our facility had been contacted by the new folks in charge and were accused of preventing our youth from using the hotlines, because we didn't have many calls coming in. Security had to go around to each dorm and test the phones to ensure they were working. Although, the numbers are plastered everywhere, the youth I guess just didn't have much to report - HOWEVER, in recent weeks, the students have discovered that the phones are a great tool to use against staff - AS WE KNEW THEY EVENTUALLY WOULD. For the old timers, it's 'been there done that' but for the new guys, it's scary. But, this too shall pass. Overall the students' attitudes haven't changed much. They are concerned with the things they were concerned with before - phase 3 and 4 privileges, packets, release dates, etc. I think this is what has amazed me the most about all of this. <BR/><BR/>We're all just tired of all the @#*& - and yes I am a WTSS staff (just in case no one has guessed yet). You know, what frustrates us the most about all of this mess is that we were trying to get someone to help us with Brookins - and no one would listen. Hell, the Ranger couldn't even get anyone to listen after he completed his investigation (legislators included-you've all seen the media reports), and he's a Texas Ranger! Think about that one for a minute - pretty scary huh? Yes, our District Attorney is lazy, and we in the 143rd district have had to deal with him being lazy for years - this is another story unto itself and I won't go into it now. But it, too, just like the rest of this is SHADY POLITICS IN TEXAS! I ask that every TYC employee please remember these past 3-4 months when the next election rolls around and remind your family and friends of what we have been through - very few of these legislators deserve to be re-elected, and that will become even more obvious the closer we get to the end of the session. My great fear is that the public will forget and this lege will be back. PLEASE, we can never allow ourselves, our family or our communities to forget about this fiasco. O.K. I'm done for now - thanks to everyone for listening. Let's see if we can stick this out and prove them all wrong. We have changed lives for the better - you all know we have. If I have to leave this work, I can at least feel confident in that. Later:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-31513735979782273002007-05-05T13:42:00.000-05:002007-05-05T13:42:00.000-05:00Man that was weird. Friday night postings should h...Man that was weird. Friday night postings should have a drinking/pill limit and a censor button. Funny poems though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-85671058831078416952007-05-05T01:37:00.000-05:002007-05-05T01:37:00.000-05:00OK... there you go pinpoint. Good... see what happ...OK... there you go pinpoint. Good... see what happens when we dialogue... very good points like you just made come to surface, that is, until Fat boy "Chuy" comes along and disrupts the scene (he and Brookins are actually 'friends.')<BR/><BR/>Good night people... we'll banter another day.... (Chuy and I are friends so we are giving eachother the shit... parents please be advised)...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com