tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post2663308619636886659..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Federal Judge: TYC firings were unconstitutionalGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger93125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-32069529193811636302009-05-07T21:14:00.000-05:002009-05-07T21:14:00.000-05:00I sure wish ole Hurley would go back to selling us...I sure wish ole Hurley would go back to selling used cars!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-92003328701230778452009-05-03T16:42:00.000-05:002009-05-03T16:42:00.000-05:00The last thing TYC wants is for the merits to be h...The last thing TYC wants is for the merits to be heard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-12433921216460344672009-04-30T17:24:00.000-05:002009-04-30T17:24:00.000-05:00DALLAS MORNING NEWS
A U.S. district judge should o...DALLAS MORNING NEWS<br />A U.S. district judge should overturn his ruling that the Texas Youth Commission improperly terminated two longtime employees after the agency's sexual abuse scandal, a federal magistrate has ruled. <br />Two weeks ago, Judge Orlando Garcia of San Antonio said the TYC erred when it forced Patricia Logterman and Corinne Alvarez-Sanders to resign or be terminated in mid-2007. The judge made the decision without input from the Texas Attorney General's office, which mistakenly failed to file briefs defending the TYC. <br />On Wednesday, U.S. Magistrate Judge Pamela Mathy said the court should reconsider the case in light of the state's belated argument. Mathy also said the women should be denied their request for summary judgment, meaning they'll have to take the case to a full trial. Judge Garcia is expected to sign off on the order. <br />"We are pleased with the magistrate's recommendation," TYC spokesman Jim Hurley said. "This case will now proceed and the merits will be heard."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-15032388389562952792009-04-27T05:04:00.000-05:002009-04-27T05:04:00.000-05:00From the pleadings posted in this matter it appear...From the pleadings posted in this matter it appears that the CALS attorney might be <br /><br />Dan Hargrove<br />210 223 9700<br /><br />although he is in San AntonioAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-16595337929423782342009-04-25T22:20:00.000-05:002009-04-25T22:20:00.000-05:00A lawfirm in San Antonio and Austin are in the dis...A lawfirm in San Antonio and Austin are in the discovery phase of the CALS and have the list of potential plaintiffs. It's been in the works for months.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-47321643704024973402009-04-24T11:48:00.000-05:002009-04-24T11:48:00.000-05:004/22 2:01 - tell us about the CAL.
4/22 - 3:55 - ...4/22 2:01 - tell us about the CAL.<br /><br />4/22 - 3:55 - they shouldn't settle for less than a quater of a million plus attoney fees. If this goes to Court, they stand to get a judgement for at least one million plus attorney fees.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-28039710590725970142009-04-23T06:40:00.000-05:002009-04-23T06:40:00.000-05:00This matter will never settle. It has become a cau...This matter will never settle. It has become a cause celeb' for TYC administration and the AG. How can you ever admit that your legal advice was incorrect or that your state agency was in error? Never!<br /><br />Basicly, as a result of the judicial ruling the AG will fight and whine about the judge, fight and mske counter allegations regarding the ethics of the opposing attorneys, fight and spend lots of taxpayer money to justify their existance, till at the very end when they ultimately get a judgment against the state. They will then appeal all the way to the supreme court and finally, 10 to 20 years later, after all the legal wrangling is done TYC will wind up paying about a couple hundred thousand dollars and several millions in attorneys fees. <br /><br />This is what happens with you get a state agecy with free attorneys (the ag) but no money to settle lawsuits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-31631560620302525192009-04-22T22:54:00.000-05:002009-04-22T22:54:00.000-05:00They both will get simple assault charges, then dr...They both will get simple assault charges, then dropped from time restraints and lack of witnesses. Done, dissolve TYC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-6670818206493724822009-04-22T22:34:00.000-05:002009-04-22T22:34:00.000-05:00Does anyone have any idea if Brookins and Hernande...Does anyone have any idea if Brookins and Hernandez have trial dates?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-55962131577809060922009-04-22T22:15:00.000-05:002009-04-22T22:15:00.000-05:00Some of the posts up here make me believe that old...Some of the posts up here make me believe that old Elmer, or members of his staff are posting regularly here. Note the responses any time someone brings up the fact that DH tried to tell old Elmer about WT and he gavelled him quiet, saying tell us about it later. <br /><br />Obfuscate by branding all TYC employees as worthless gravy train robbers. Go Elmer!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-90662661657113893692009-04-22T21:57:00.000-05:002009-04-22T21:57:00.000-05:004/16 @ 6:58PM
What/where are articles A, B, C &am...4/16 @ 6:58PM<br /><br />What/where are articles A, B, C & D? Scott, can you put a link to this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-84944302849416009042009-04-22T20:55:00.000-05:002009-04-22T20:55:00.000-05:00Its tough to watch you buzzards hoping to see TYC ...Its tough to watch you buzzards hoping to see TYC re-invented, over the false firings. Perhaps two or three were fired improperly, but most were in line for firings many months ago; just protected by the in-house idiots that were running TYC. Hope all you want...TYC is finished; any good riddance to most of you hang-oners and blind abusers. who think you are really youth saviors. You go to bed thinking "I saved a young person today", all along knowing you probably sold one out for your own benefit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-27204470558079362132009-04-22T15:55:00.000-05:002009-04-22T15:55:00.000-05:00Just curious for you attorney gritters, what do yo...Just curious for you attorney gritters, what do you think Corinne and Pat stand to get out of this as far as damages go? If it goes to court? If it is settled out of Court?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-80946294999579578322009-04-22T15:53:00.000-05:002009-04-22T15:53:00.000-05:00Nevermind, I get it it, class action lawsuit, duh....Nevermind, I get it it, class action lawsuit, duh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-50457056347321924632009-04-22T15:51:00.000-05:002009-04-22T15:51:00.000-05:00For us non-attorneys, what is a CAL?For us non-attorneys, what is a CAL?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-86872929489796460992009-04-22T14:01:00.000-05:002009-04-22T14:01:00.000-05:00Don't know about other individual suits, but there...Don't know about other individual suits, but there is a huge CAL in the making.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-73088506634935529522009-04-22T13:58:00.000-05:002009-04-22T13:58:00.000-05:00Talk about the gravy boat being upright and sailin...Talk about the gravy boat being upright and sailing along, 8:32 left off the one about the political pork skin that owes her way of life to no other one than Chewy himself. Most think she intellectually challenged. For her, communicating in any form is an exercise that she needs both Friday and Monday off to recover from. We laugh every time she strings together more than 3 words.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-29647283641292176112009-04-22T11:47:00.000-05:002009-04-22T11:47:00.000-05:00You continue to pretend to know all about TYC, and...You continue to pretend to know all about TYC, and there were only two involved in the entire mess, that started all the problems. Pull your head out, again. There were many who also knew about that problem and others across the state, yet chose to be blind followers. Now you all pay and whine for getting caught. Pack up if you haven't already. You're not mad about the situation, you're mad because your gravy cart was overturned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-12888957413317446592009-04-22T09:56:00.000-05:002009-04-22T09:56:00.000-05:00All the crap at TYC came about because the actions...All the crap at TYC came about because the actions of a few. Unfortunately people who had done a good job considering the work conditions got sacked along with the bad. As posted above the law was broken and there are no excuses for that. I saw the video where Harris tried to tell John Whitmire about the situation at West Texas but Whitmire didn't have time for it. Two years plus down the road the truth of what happened starts to get fuzzy for many which will go a long way toward protecting the people who are ultimately responsible for the sex scandal at TYC. I noticed there are still no convictions or additional arrests in the case. The truly guilty go free while the innocent pay the price. Once again the Texas Legislature will operate on the cheap with TYC and they are part of the problems for TYC.<br /><br />The spin doctors may confuse many but there will always be a few who keep their eye on the real problem and its causes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-76701166035172579452009-04-22T08:32:00.000-05:002009-04-22T08:32:00.000-05:00By no means would any sane person think or say tha...By no means would any sane person think or say that all of the remaining employees of TYC are bad. At the urging of legislators, TYC made big HR mistakes in the past. There are good professionals still standing the line and manning up every day across the state. But, you can also most certainly state that there are a few complete idiots still inside the fence. One only looks to the southern sky and think of Edinburg. The facility down here (unfortunately for the state) is staffed by persons unemployable any where else. There are persons still here who are unable to handle positions when promoted and still get to stay employed by getting demoyed, there are people still here who are unable to pass state educator certifications yet get to keep a paycheck, and there are disturbances almost every day because staff refuse to do their jobs. Staff jokingly state that the manager that can effectively run this facility has not even been born yet. What few good staff are gone, both long ago and recent, and the one or two remaining good staff are bogged down by all of the corruption. Wow, it is amazing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-1623065522783644492009-04-21T20:52:00.000-05:002009-04-21T20:52:00.000-05:00Yes, it may cost millions, but the previous employ...Yes, it may cost millions, but the previous employees actions, or inactions, also cost the state millions; let alone gutting every program in TYC, good or bad. Many of these fired/what ever employees needed to go. There are some still entrenched that need cut loose also.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-72008453295275677292009-04-21T20:33:00.000-05:002009-04-21T20:33:00.000-05:00Amen, 5:11! Unfortunately, Whitmire is made of Tef...Amen, 5:11! Unfortunately, Whitmire is made of Teflon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-83220543647671825522009-04-21T17:11:00.000-05:002009-04-21T17:11:00.000-05:00“So, we are letting the rats back in. It seems to ...“So, we are letting the rats back in. It seems to me we have too many of the old rats still running things at TYC.”<br /><br />Don’t bet on it. No sane person would want to come back to what is now called TYC once they have had a taste of freedom from the abuse many employees suffered. If anyone believes TYC is a better place today than it was 2006 then you are sadly mistaken. No real program for the youth and staff morale in the dumper is something we long for as ex-employees – NOT!<br /><br />The bottom line is that Jay Kimbrough and Senator John Whitmire violated the law and now the state has to pay the cost of its wrong doing. It doesn’t matter if all or none are “Rats” as you put it, the law was broken. Don’t be angry with the people who were illegally fired, instead turn your anger to those who are responsible for the unlawful action that will cost Texas taxpayers dearly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-17902188709145189542009-04-21T16:43:00.000-05:002009-04-21T16:43:00.000-05:00So, we are letting the rats back in. It seems to m...So, we are letting the rats back in. It seems to me we have too many of the old rats still running things at TYC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-3053806482398640922009-04-21T07:40:00.000-05:002009-04-21T07:40:00.000-05:00They better call Obama for some bailout money, the...They better call Obama for some bailout money, these lawyers are about to take TYC to the bank.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com