tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post2769084806041225148..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Pew: Incarceration reduces employment, long-term economic growthGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-68013027077507664712010-10-09T23:18:01.881-05:002010-10-09T23:18:01.881-05:00You will do anything to deliberately distort the t...You will do anything to deliberately distort the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-84292171323278965012010-10-03T21:10:50.116-05:002010-10-03T21:10:50.116-05:007:04 - If it's true that "By their early ...7:04 - If it's true that "By their early 40s, 31 percent of black women have never been wives," then conversely 69% of them have been. That data doesn't contradict the point made by Pew at all which wasn't that all prisoners were providing for a family, but many were until they were incarcerated.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-64201264260637321232010-10-03T19:04:52.240-05:002010-10-03T19:04:52.240-05:00Who is the primary source of financial support for...Who is the primary source of financial support for children? <br /><br />HOUSTON CHRONICLE<br />March 22, 2010<br /><br />According to 2009 U.S. Census Bureau reports, black females ages 35 to 44 are the only American women in their child-bearing years with lower marriage rates than men of the same race or ethnicity. By their early 40s, 31 percent of black women have never been wives, whereas 9 percent of white women, 11 percent of Asian women and 12 percent of Hispanic women have never been married.<br /><br />The outlook for the traditional family is also bleaker for black Texans, who have the state's highest divorce and out-of-wedlock birth rates, according to U.S. Department of Health and Human Services figures.<br /><br />How often do you see a black female with a black male in public?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-67541898869411277852010-10-03T06:18:52.896-05:002010-10-03T06:18:52.896-05:00@8:18, presumably at least the half who were their...@8:18, presumably at least the half who were their kids' primary source of financial support.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-89404103191443618302010-10-02T20:18:49.882-05:002010-10-02T20:18:49.882-05:00Before being incarcerated, two-thirds of male inma...Before being incarcerated, two-thirds of male inmates were employed and more than half were the primary source of financial support for their children. <br /><br />Oh yeah? How many of them even knew the names of their children?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-30390241680493711662010-10-02T06:34:07.094-05:002010-10-02T06:34:07.094-05:005:37, don't be silly. Only you said anything a...5:37, don't be silly. Only you said anything about an "evil society." Also, around half of TDCJ inmates are there on non-violent offenses. The question isn't their guilt or innocence (no one but you said victims were lying) but the cost-effectiveness of keeping them there vs. the cost of the crime prevented, a comparison calculated in <a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1745-9133.2009.00546.x/abstract" rel="nofollow">this paper by Bill Spelman</a>, one of the premier researchers on the subject, who concludes that:<br /><br />"Estimates vary widely, but the marginal prison bed seems to prevent somewhtere between two and seven crimes, which saves potential victims between $4,000 and $19,000 per year.<br /><br />"But note the details: If each prison bed reduces costs by no more than $19,000, but costs us $20,000 to $40,000, then do we need this many beds? Clearly not, and it's not (too) difficult to use current estimates of the crime-control effectiveness of prison, the costs of crime to victims and nonvictims, and the costs of prison to show that we overshot the mark sometime in the early 1990s. Enormous cutbacks - reductions of 50% or more in the prison population - are not difficult to justify and would probably save the US public billions of dollars each year. Certainly there is little economic justification for continuing to build."<br /><br />1:32, we're now at a point where 1 in 22 adult Texans are in prison, jail, on probation or parole. Though black folks are disproportionately incarcerated, they are also disproportionately victims and perpetrators of violent crimes, particularly murder. (The disparity is much less easily explained away for drug crimes, where there is significant racial profiling and disproportionate enforcement.) By the time nearly 5% of the population is under supervision of the justice system, though, it's not just a racial question anymore, by a longshot, it's a systemic one that affects everybody - these days even white collar types, who for example are now among the leading champions of reining in prosecutorial misconduct. It's tempting for liberals to attribute all to race, but when you focus on the data there's really a lot more going on there.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-16076254148784574182010-10-01T17:37:57.449-05:002010-10-01T17:37:57.449-05:00Our criminal justice system is slowly decimating o...Our criminal justice system is slowly decimating our society. <br /><br />They are not in prison for what they did. They weren't arrested for committing violent crimes but they were randomly incarcerated by an evil society.<br /><br />All those people who claim they were assaulted, raped or robbed are lying!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-81437029915369993622010-10-01T15:56:24.935-05:002010-10-01T15:56:24.935-05:00Excellent post. It highlights the way in which th...Excellent post. It highlights the way in which the retributive nature of our criminal justice system is slowly decimating our society, economically and otherwise.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01924196662560533415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-74638218191513957652010-10-01T13:32:23.176-05:002010-10-01T13:32:23.176-05:00Yes this is very bad, see Michelle Alexander’s boo...Yes this is very bad, see Michelle Alexander’s book “The New Jim Crow, Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness”. We are one nation under arrest and its going on right under our noses. More so for the ancestors of ex slaves. Seems to me our country should have spent more time civilizing ex slaves after the Civil War than to continuously try to dream up new ways to keep them and their offspring enslaved to the proverbial man. This war on the American people in the name of war on drugs is decimating our country. And for what, to keep the ancestors of ex slaves in their place. Instead of mass incarcerating them how about mass civilizing them. It could save us millions and stop the violence at pee wee football games. Isn’t it time for America’s White Anglo Saxon Protestant community to free the slaves. And how about throw in some reparations, that will stimulate our schlock driven economy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-50721217783027881332010-10-01T13:15:58.823-05:002010-10-01T13:15:58.823-05:00Thanks Grits for unceasingly opposing the forces o...Thanks Grits for unceasingly opposing the forces of darkness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com