tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post3276632713836969835..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Budget crisis forces schools to consider cutting campus copsGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-5175627458625556102011-04-16T22:42:21.319-05:002011-04-16T22:42:21.319-05:00I have no problem with schools getting rid of scho...I have no problem with schools getting rid of school police departments. When I was in school during the 90s, there was no police department in my school and we did just fine. Schools simply approach student behavior discipline the wrong way. In my school district, there was a "gang problem" and so the school made a police force. But it did not solve the problem or make the community any safer. What students need are programs that keep them occupied, social services, mental health services, not police officers who have no training on how to interact with children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-46317270417213449502011-04-13T14:20:23.387-05:002011-04-13T14:20:23.387-05:00It would be interesting to see how much time is sa...It would be interesting to see how much time is saved on Police Depts. by having an Officer at the school.<br /><br />Some areas that are more rural would be forced to wait a pretty good while for an Officer to respond to an incident at the school....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-61769276205851557702011-04-12T23:18:02.880-05:002011-04-12T23:18:02.880-05:00As a parent I am on the fence on this issue. Whil...As a parent I am on the fence on this issue. While I don't totally agree in writing kids a bunch of tickets I also do not believe the good ole days of school discipline will return. Spanking and explusions were on the way out 20yrs ago when I was in highschool and I dont see them coming back. In addition I never recall anyone ever getting stabbed, shot or muchless anyone bringing a gun to highschool and I graduated from a 5A school. <br /><br />The problems we face in schools these days are much different, than 20 yrs ago. The majority of parents are not involved and view school as a babysitter for thier children. Just go to an open house night and see how vacant the parking lot is if you dont believe me. <br /><br />The kids do not respect the teachers or the principal. According to my daughter they do fear the campus cop, who does write lots of tickets hitting the kids in their wallets which at the time seems to be the only thing they do care about. <br /><br />Taking the cops out of school given our current problem with the value of education in our society might make people feel good but I believe it will lead to only more behavior problems not less. <br /><br />- ParentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-72459547633036133932011-04-11T22:28:32.961-05:002011-04-11T22:28:32.961-05:00Grits,
What's interesting is that Constable Hi...Grits,<br />What's interesting is that Constable Hickman targeted the school deputy constables who are on an 80/20 split but ignored positions in some contracted neighborhoods on a 70/30 split (saving an extra 10% covered by the county), and positions fully funded by the county (a 100% savings). Reportedly when he did target some 70/30 types it was in the high call neighborhoods - dumping the calls to the sheriff's office - and retained the 70/30 deputies in the upper middle-class low call - low response neighborhoods.<br /><br />His deputies are also still working toll roads with minimal traffic issues. <br /><br />Figure his strategy is coordinated with some on the Commissioners Court (Radack, Eversole) who are interested in dumping the Democratic sheriff in two years and eventually stripping the patrol function from the Sheriff's Office after going after the limited neighborhood contracts currently held by the Sheriff's Office. But what do I know?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-71453255497730642382011-04-11T17:17:33.947-05:002011-04-11T17:17:33.947-05:00Audrey,
It seems to me that if parents took on th...Audrey,<br /><br />It seems to me that if parents took on their respsonibility as parents and would support teachers and administrators by reinforcing at home what is enforced at school then there would be no need to turn school into a police state.<br /><br />Are you one of those who is afraid that putting a paddle to little Johnny's ass is going to turn him into a hatchet murderer or ruin his self-esteem?<br /><br />Well said Old Cop!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-20871898592509075412011-04-11T15:32:18.800-05:002011-04-11T15:32:18.800-05:00I've said it for years...get the cops out of s...I've said it for years...get the cops out of schools and return the teacher's role in old fashioned discipline. Stop criminalizing kids for what used to be detention and expulsion "offenses", quit criminalizing teachers who impose discipline, and quit worrying about loss of the almighty federal dollar. If the little bastards don't want to be in school, send them to a mandatory stretch in the military. The deserts of Iraq and mountains of Afghanistan may engender a "burning desire" for futher education when (if) they get back.Old Copnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-70332519948215206762011-04-11T13:03:13.513-05:002011-04-11T13:03:13.513-05:00My spouse and I walked past two uniformed HISD Pol...My spouse and I walked past two uniformed HISD Police Officers in the hallway of our magnet elementary school this morning. They were both pleasant and said "good morning" as we passed. We wondered to each other as we left the building why one Officer was in tactical apparel: dark blue, para-military style uniform, HISD Police patches on the arm sleeve, with a low riding combat style, thigh holster holding what looked like a Sig. Really??<br /><br />What impression does this send to our children? I immediately thought of the previous "Grits" post. If I was a budget writing official I would ZERO out the entire campus police budget line. <br /><br />And yes, the Asst. Principal can just call 911. What a waste.Shadowguvnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-37946740822458241242011-04-11T11:40:17.325-05:002011-04-11T11:40:17.325-05:00The McAllen Monitor ran an article this weekend st...The McAllen Monitor ran an article this weekend stating that this bill, which is co sponsored by our state senator, Hinojosa, is getting mixed reviews. The vast majority of the readers who responded do not support the bill. <br /><br />I agree with Grits that this is a good time to review and revamp school security and discipline measures. We must keep our kids safe but we must also not make criminals out of the kids who commit minor misdemeanor offenses. <br /><br />This craziness recently came to a head with the conviction of a local JP for official oppression. This may be the reason that prompted Senator Hinojosa to act. She unlawfully jailed two kids for truancy. How in the world do people think that putting truant 17year old kids in jail with hardened criminals makes the kids better persons and makes society a better place?<br /><br />Though not directly related to the topic, the Monitor also ran an article recently stating that the average superintendent's salary in Texas is 108k. The average superintendent's salary in the Valley is about 160k with several making over 200k. You would think this kind of money would buy us new and innovative ideas to deal with school discipline and security. No, it simply maintains the Fort Apache mentality. <br /><br />What about the state placing a limit on salaries paid to school administrators? Really, no one in government should be making more the 150k. And please don't say that this is simply a local issue. If it's that simple, then the issue concerning school police and discipline would also be simply a local issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-36765427051704296012011-04-11T11:30:14.462-05:002011-04-11T11:30:14.462-05:00It seems to me if teachers, administration and cou...It seems to me if teachers, administration and counselors were trained in how to work with kids/teenagers then there would be no need to turn school into a police state. I would guess the way campus cops justify their cost is by writing tickets....a quota game....but does it really make the schools safer? The messages we are giving our kids are just so negative...how are teaching self-discipline?Audreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04316183416545492160noreply@blogger.com