tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post3281137590541592371..comments2024-03-15T05:45:01.402-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Mentally ill Tyler teen who murdered teacher lingering in legal limbo for incompetenceGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-48443273625979278632015-07-25T13:04:28.029-05:002015-07-25T13:04:28.029-05:00I would not trust anything coming from Emily Falli...I would not trust anything coming from Emily Fallis. Emily Fallis, perhaps less ambitious than other psychologists, only promises 'psychological evaluation.' After seeing Emily for my own evaluation (which I was charged an exorbitant amount of money for, by the way), I quickly realized psychological evaluation is no doubt one more thing this simplistic shrink claims expertise in. Her final report made it evident that she is a dangerous simplifier and thief of a person's identity. I am now skeptical of her qualifications to even provide such a service. Why are all the serious jobs done by quacks?What could be more serious than a psychological evaluation? I imagine this particular psychologist (and all others associated with Balance Forensics) is somewhat lower on a scale of trust than a witch doctor.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-76120302066317192622010-12-30T17:03:46.874-06:002010-12-30T17:03:46.874-06:00Ah the web site, I’m assuming you are referring to...Ah the web site, I’m assuming you are referring to the site PedophilesOftyc, a spoof on the faces of tyc site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-78934880338715086472010-12-30T11:36:35.852-06:002010-12-30T11:36:35.852-06:00That is the problem...TYC should not survive. This...That is the problem...TYC should not survive. This illegitimate monstor needs to die.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-25901778717124651582010-12-30T07:16:19.766-06:002010-12-30T07:16:19.766-06:00Sheldon, I cant believe you say the things you do....Sheldon, I cant believe you say the things you do. Just because its true don’t make it right to say. I also know about that web site with the pictures and testimony that you plan on making public. I have reported it to my superiors. You may cost the tax payers a lot of money when the state has to defend against it but TYC will survive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-54348789454256554282010-12-29T21:03:56.202-06:002010-12-29T21:03:56.202-06:00Anonymous 11:46 AM , for your information I am Pre...Anonymous 11:46 AM , for your information I am President of the Rose Garden in Temple and we house 70+ mentally ill individuals that are released from prison. I devote time, money and food deliveries as well as clothing I collect. We are a non-profit organization and would love donations any time. So you see, that is almost like taking them home .<br />I also received the Henry B. Gonzales Human Rights award for 2009 for the work I do. I hope that is sufficient for you .<br />Helga DillHelga Dillnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-61416824134071117242010-12-29T17:04:26.357-06:002010-12-29T17:04:26.357-06:00The commit I made was “Jim Crow is alive in the *s...The commit I made was “Jim Crow is alive in the *shadows* in this east Texas berg”. In the shadows is where old Jim hides in Texas. Negropillia has made the white supremacy way of life in Texas hid in the shadows. Sort of like not being able to smoke in public.<br />Initially when the story broke about the Tyler teen, in its news paper in the commits section the kids were talking about how the kid made the racial slur “ die you white mf”. I remembered showing that to a black friend of mine whom I thought would appreciate that because he hates white people. Shortly after that we looked for it again because we had a bet. He said that “Obama” would take it down within a week and I said it would stay up because Tyler does not care about what captain save-a-schvatza has to say. At that time many of my black friends made commits along with people in the media that led me to believe our President has earned the super hero title of captain save-a- schvatza among the black community. Now I teas my black friends that he turned white on them. I still don’t think our President took that down but in a town like Tyler, I can see where you wouldn’t want that information to get out. The article was there but the commit section was turned off. Censored by the paper I suspect.<br />So what I was writing about in my previous commit was initially there was chatter in the comments about the racial slur and the poor race relations at that school in particular and Tyler in general, but now you can’t find anything on it. I conceded that my racist friend was correct and I bought him lunch. Btw, I call him my racist friend but he tells me black people aren’t racist because how they feel about white people is all true. <br /><br />Charity, sorry about your child in tyc, I hope everything works out and that your child goes on to live a successful and rewarding life in spite of having to go through what ever got him sent to tyc and the tyc experience. <br /><br />Anonymous 12/29/2010 11:46 am The same can be said about tyc staff who “say” they care about the kids. Oh wait the pedophile potential is way too high for that. No you tyc staff, don’t be taking kids home with you.<br /><br />Anonymous 12/29/2010 2:20 am According to the book I read about negopillia most white people are totally unaware or ignore racism with the thinking that if you don’t acknowledge it, then it doesn’t exist. That has worked well for tyc. Kids are much more for real and don’t think about what they say, especially in anonymous postings. This is why I would trust a kid who complains against a tyc emp over the tyc emp defending themselves to cover up impropriety’s. The tyc manglement has shown for 120 years they would rather report their expectations not their realities.<br />SheldonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-29289943389883802552010-12-29T14:20:37.431-06:002010-12-29T14:20:37.431-06:00Is it possible that you don't really know your...Is it possible that you don't really know your hometown?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-49335578937907865582010-12-29T11:46:06.996-06:002010-12-29T11:46:06.996-06:00Helga, if you really care, take them home with you...Helga, if you really care, take them home with you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-75207022678028608312010-12-29T11:01:04.927-06:002010-12-29T11:01:04.927-06:0012:15, Sheldon's point was that "Jim Cro...12:15, Sheldon's point was that "Jim Crow is alive" and well in Tyler, which happens to be my hometown. That's EXACTLY <a href="http://www.amazon.com/New-Jim-Crow-Incarceration-Colorblindness/dp/1595581030" rel="nofollow">what liberals say</a>! You're either confused, ignorant or both.<br /><br />Also, a search online finds no mention of the racial epithet by the youth that I supposedly ignored. If it wasn't publicly reported, I can't comment on it; I wasn't there. Please provide a link for that, especially any student forums discussing the incident you may be aware of.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-38123827796187984572010-12-29T07:51:09.611-06:002010-12-29T07:51:09.611-06:00Up close and amp, finally someone mentioned Terrel...Up close and amp, finally someone mentioned Terrell State hospital !<br />That is where these individuals need to be . TYC does not have the ability ( personnel as well as housing) to treat them. In the last 6 years I have watched Terrell being demolished, buildings that were still in perfect shape turned into rubble. What was once a 2000 bed "hospital" for the criminally insane is being destroyed. I have asked Legislators to look into this and other locations to put in place facilities that deal with the problem. No one is interested, locking them up makes them worse , whether it be TYC or TDCJ . Someone please put this before the Legislature, my one voice is not enough. Please remember, your tax dollars are paying for this "insanity"!<br /><br />Helga Dill,Boardmember,TXCUREAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-36096716547421113562010-12-28T23:22:06.101-06:002010-12-28T23:22:06.101-06:00I worked at TYC-Corsicanna as a Mental Health Prof...I worked at TYC-Corsicanna as a Mental Health Professional for several years. <br />The Corsicana Campus is designated to house the youth with mental disorders. Granted, they are lacking in Mental Health Professionals and highly trained staff, but they did have the option to send this youth to Terrell State Hospital where he would have received the proper treatment. CRTC has sent many youth to Terrell for stabilization and followed Terrell's recommendations on whether or not they should be released back to the community.<br />The State Hospitals (especially Rusk) are very familiar with dealing with Forensic Adult Patients. Rusk also is the home of the Skyview/Hodge TDCJ units which are the units designated for the incarcerated adults with mental disorders.<br />I think TYC & TDCJ & DSHS should work together with these populations. Let's pool some resources for our menatlly ill Texans!!! Vernon State Hospital is well equipped to deal with the manifestly dangerous and they also have a prison.Up Close & Personalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-70788531164061756172010-12-28T12:59:47.818-06:002010-12-28T12:59:47.818-06:00I have a child in TYC and I advocate for reform al...I have a child in TYC and I advocate for reform all the time but everything is not TYC's fault as so many of you like to claim. In a case like this we are all to blame because as a society we regularly fail to take care of our weakest, sickest, or violent members. As far as this particular boy's culpability I would say he has very little or none. He is insane and he is violent. We have no cures for him and no pill will make him sane. All that can be done, if he takes his meds, is temper his insanity. But for those kids who have no mental health issues everyone seems to forget when they are doing all their blaming that at some point we have to teach these kids they are the ones responsible for their lives and it is as much their fault as ours that they are where they are. <br /><br />Instead of spending so much time blaming all these institutions (which are composed of your fellow human beings) why not spend more of your time trying to make a difference-work with these kids, join up with an advocacy group, blog, do something other than bitch and blame. It helps no one and help is supposed to be the point when it comes to kids in trouble.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01557243475529547303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-19769670086200781022010-12-28T12:15:19.447-06:002010-12-28T12:15:19.447-06:00"Still no one is talking about the racial epi..."Still no one is talking about the racial epitaph this African American kid from New Orleans screamed before plunging his mommas butcher knife into this middle aged Anglo American Special Education teachers chest."<br /><br />Scott and the other liberals would never admit that this happens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-53158166265960646042010-12-28T10:31:59.484-06:002010-12-28T10:31:59.484-06:00Yes this kid is a product of tyc and should be lis...Yes this kid is a product of tyc and should be listed in Faces of tyc. The tyc released this offender on society because they couldn’t do anything for him. Still no one is talking about the racial epitaph this African American kid from New Orleans screamed before plunging his mommas butcher knife into this middle aged Anglo American Special Education teachers chest. Also no one seems to want to talk about all the racial problems at this school that Tyler ISD attempted to sweep under the carpet except for the students writing about it in open web forums. Jim Crow is alive in the shadows in this east Texas berg.<br /><br />This is an example for if tyc was rolled up to TDCJ the kid could have been warehoused indefinitely and this Tyler teacher could have enjoyed Christmas with his family. The tyc is indirectly responsible for this man’s murder. As tyc specializes in deflecting responsibility for the insignificant to the most hideous, had tyc done its job this man would not have been murdered in this way. The tyc knew what they were dealing with in this kid and FAILED the community, this man and his family. How much longer are the tax payers of this state going to put up with such foolishness from these buffoons who call themselves managing the state’s juvenile justice system.<br /><br />SheldonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-10313741106645695422010-12-27T23:23:59.550-06:002010-12-27T23:23:59.550-06:00Remember with the passage of Senate Bill 103, we H...Remember with the passage of Senate Bill 103, we HAVE to release the youth on their 'Minimum length of stay'. Where I work, this is SOMETIMES disasterous - like in this case.<br />Now adays, the youth arent learning anything, just 'doing my time'. And this attitude prevails. So I expect this kind of thing to happen more often.<br />Just look at the recidivism rates AFTER SB103 went into effect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-23330280818640374232010-12-27T14:27:51.306-06:002010-12-27T14:27:51.306-06:0012/26 said "Prime example of TYC's ineffe...12/26 said "Prime example of TYC's ineffectivness."<br /><br />Are you suggesting that this youth was in TYC custody at some point?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-9722315125881425802010-12-27T11:30:56.030-06:002010-12-27T11:30:56.030-06:00I'm sorry, Prison Doc, but you seem to believe...I'm sorry, Prison Doc, but you seem to believe that all mentally ill persons are violent, thus perpetuating a vile stereotype. Having worked in correctional medicine myself, I know just how abysmal is the "care" of the mentally ill in our prisons. To suggest the mentally ill- 90% of which have schizophrenia- be incarcerated long term as a "solution"- whether in prisons as now or in institutions of another sort, is shockingly callous and lacking in compassion. It is also very costly.<br /><br />I have tried for 10 years to get help for a young man I know- through 4 terms in prison. Just when I finally get him seen by MHMR and he begins to adjust to meds, he commits some low level property crime, goes to prison, and they automatically stop his "unnecessary" psych meds (to cut costs). A year or so later he is back out, further in his hole of mental illness and even worse off than before. For the cost of these terms, he could have been given private medical care with a private treatment team! This is a stupid waste of money to further a "lock 'em up" mindset, to which Texas has been addicted for far too long.austex1151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-6205218633502994762010-12-27T09:33:09.501-06:002010-12-27T09:33:09.501-06:00You say TYC isn't "equipped to deal"...You say TYC isn't "equipped to deal" with kids like these in the juvenile justice system. Shouldn't they be? Not all mentally ill juveniles commit crimes but those who do should be dealt with by the juvenile justice system as social service agencies(eg CPS) are the ones who are really not equipped to deal. <br />How is it such a large 'great' state hasn't figured out how to collaborate our mental health agency and juvenile justice systems(much less the adult justice system)? <br /><br />TYC isn't THE problem. It's a result of a much bigger problem that's been going on for the last 30 years in our mental health agency not being effective or efficient in services. If there were more options for juvenile probation departments in the community, they wouldn't have felt their only option was to send kids to TYC. But wait, you say TYC isn't equipped to handle those types of kids. <br />Vicious cycleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-59481611416170693732010-12-27T07:08:54.358-06:002010-12-27T07:08:54.358-06:00TYC just revoked a juvenile back to TYC because of...TYC just revoked a juvenile back to TYC because of of evading arrest. His grandparents did not want him. What else could they do? Social agencies are so full they won't touch a criminal justice kid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-65737330514177881002010-12-26T23:03:00.790-06:002010-12-26T23:03:00.790-06:00Because TYC needs to justify its existence, corrup...Because TYC needs to justify its existence, corruption and abuse included. At tax payer expense. Go figure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-2397105768308489962010-12-26T22:39:58.711-06:002010-12-26T22:39:58.711-06:00TYC recently reduced its inmate population by 2/3 ...TYC recently reduced its inmate population by 2/3 so we proved that 2/3's of them didn't need to be incarcerated. In two years we dropped the numbers from around 4,000 to about 1,400 or 1,500. Good, but not good enough.<br /><br />I say that 90% of those in TYC didn't need to be locked up. I suggest 400 would be a good ending number for a state like Texas. If we went from 4000 to 1,400, why not keep dropping it down to 400?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-71830607373986123282010-12-26T22:06:14.338-06:002010-12-26T22:06:14.338-06:009:12, all the same sky-will-fall arguments were ma...9:12, all the same sky-will-fall arguments were made before TYC recently reduced its inmate population by 2/3, and yet juvenile crime (and crime overall) continued to decline. Reformers aren't ignoring your stance "for humanitarian reasons," they're ignoring it because it's unsubstantiated by facts on the ground.<br /><br />This one incident is a tragedy, but it's not indicative of the typical youth released from TYC. There are some people who need to be locked up, but that fact doesn't imply that everyone needs to be locked up who is mentally ill, commits an offense, or both.<br /><br />@2:46, I respect the work you do, but there were opportunities before this incident for more aggressive supervision to identify that the kid was going off the rails. There just weren't any options available besides shipping him back to TYC, where they simply weren't equipped to deal with him. As Prison Doc says, he needed institutionalization that just isn't available anymore.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-20365653884792882812010-12-26T21:12:48.572-06:002010-12-26T21:12:48.572-06:00About this Tyler teen charged with stabbing his te...About this Tyler teen charged with stabbing his teacher:<br /><br />"He went to TYC in 2007 after stabbing his sister, his fourth knife attack since age 9. TYC records indicate Byron was among 19 juvenile offenders sent home in 2009 as too mentally ill to treat."<br /><br />To those who have advocated that TYC even more drastically reduce its small numbers and release inmates, consider this. TYC institutions contain not only the dangerous mentally ill youth. TYC also contains many dangerous youth who are not mentally ill. <br /><br />Some reformers, for humanitarian reasons, would like to see these dangerous youth returned to the community but they ignore the consequences, as well as the realities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-42442247566113790012010-12-26T20:06:22.907-06:002010-12-26T20:06:22.907-06:00Didn't we just pay twice for this injustice? R...Didn't we just pay twice for this injustice? Remove yourself, or we will remove you. Change your panties.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-20789380895120814502010-12-26T14:46:41.230-06:002010-12-26T14:46:41.230-06:00I monitor high risk juveniles daily and I can asur...I monitor high risk juveniles daily and I can asure you that supervision in the community would not have prevented this incident. This individual had no business walking the street.<br /><br />The criminal justice system of Texas did not fail this kid, it failed the community.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com