tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post346332631102269739..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: "Clearance rates" for serious crime disturbingly lowGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-706635927655538542010-06-06T03:15:08.674-05:002010-06-06T03:15:08.674-05:00восстановление зрения
База кинофильмов, кино, филь...<a href="http://forum.eyesvision.ru/" title="Восстановление зрения - хотите восстановить зрения ? метод Бейтса вам поможет в восстановление зрения - кристальное восстановление зрения, пирптские очки это восстановление зрения, тренировки восстановление зрения по Бейтсу,, сидеть за компьютером восстановление зрения в пиратских очках" rel="nofollow">восстановление зрения</a><br /><a href="http://kinosis.ru/" title="База кинофильмов, кино, фильмы, анимация, мультики" rel="nofollow">База кинофильмов, кино, фильмы, анимация, мультики</a><br /><a href="http://eyesvision.ru/" title="Восстановление зрения - хотите восстановить зрения ? метод Бейтса вам поможет в восстановление зрения - кристальное восстановление зрения, пирптские очки это восстановление зрения, тренировки восстановление зрения по Бейтсу,, сидеть за компьютером восстановление зрения в пиратских очках" rel="nofollow">восстановление зрения</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-41807514183926421662008-06-09T09:45:00.000-05:002008-06-09T09:45:00.000-05:00Crime measured only by 4 categories is basically f...Crime measured only by 4 categories is basically false reporting. Law enforcement spends more money and resources to fight the drug war without addressing it in statistical review. The public is dooped. Just one of the reasons for the founding of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-1997393871660717642007-09-26T08:50:00.000-05:002007-09-26T08:50:00.000-05:00Yes, the numbers are misleading. When people commi...Yes, the numbers are misleading. When people commit many crimes each week - as those with addictions to expensive drugs [cause lies 99.9% with drug policy] - they are bound to get caught eventually. While the percentage of overall crimes seems low the actual number of criminals caught is very high. Of course, this figure would be high no matter what our laws are or how serious enforcement is. If we didn't have drug prohibition we would have fewer addicts with high end addictions and fewer crimes committed. But you won't see any "crime victims' advocate" groups rushing to end the drug war. They love to exploit these victims for more big government instead of actually reducing government to reduce number of crime victims.<BR/> My best guess is that many - if not a clear majority - of property crimes go unreported. When police treat you with contempt [it's your own damned fault for being victimized....] and don't follow up your leads it becomes rather pointless to report crimes. I know that I haven't reported one or two crimes in my lifetime for that reason. And yes, I do have contempt for police - but do try to deal with those scoundrels in a civil and respectful manner. One of us has to!JT Barriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15571868033521182864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-4515780614526466362007-09-26T06:44:00.000-05:002007-09-26T06:44:00.000-05:00The basic problem is that you can't subvert the el...The basic problem is that you can't subvert the electoral viability of America's poor urban minorities by locking up a few murderers. But you can by locking up and mass disenfranchising thousands and thousands of drug users.<BR/><BR/>The government has never been more than 20% effective at interdicting the drugs flooding our streets. Frankly, they don't want to. As long as they can mass incarcerate poor people enticed into drug dealing by a lack of any other economic opportunity they can keep Jim Crow in control of America. <BR/><BR/>Pure and simple, the drug war is how Richard Nixon and the Dixie-crats neutralized and subverted the Voting Rights Act. Florida 2000 proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt.<BR/><BR/>America has not had a valid election since the start of the Jim Crow drug war.Pat Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03017488554120389322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-42665047803353046192007-09-25T20:05:00.000-05:002007-09-25T20:05:00.000-05:00It's the numbers game; all a numbers game.In order...It's the numbers game; all a numbers game.<BR/>In order to get more federals funding, you need to show numbers. You don't get high numbers by solving complicated crimes or spending all week on one case, no matter how serious.<BR/>Your drug task forces were living proof of this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-8275114170862374822007-09-25T16:38:00.000-05:002007-09-25T16:38:00.000-05:00Criminals compare the costs and benefits of commit...Criminals compare the costs and benefits of committing crime thus, when opportunity strikes they do their thing knowing full well the percentages of being arrested and charged are slim to none. Clearnace rates are systemic of a criminal justice system that finds its resources limited because they're thinned out doing other things besides solving crime. It would be my hypotheses that 9/11 has a lot to do with it. I could be wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-79491687675037817822007-09-25T15:03:00.000-05:002007-09-25T15:03:00.000-05:00Gotcha - how about "killers literally get away wit...Gotcha - how about "killers literally get away with 39.3% of murders"? Still not too comforting, I'd say. Thanks for clarifying.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-71696993319998108242007-09-25T14:59:00.000-05:002007-09-25T14:59:00.000-05:00"that means 39.3% of killers literally get away wi..."that means 39.3% of killers literally get away with murder"Editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10588085847973133375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-91538169886311463702007-09-25T14:00:00.000-05:002007-09-25T14:00:00.000-05:00Please quote where I made that mistake. I've re-re...Please quote where I made that mistake. I've re-read the thing several times and don't see what you're critiquing - not trying to be obtuse, just not seeing it.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-59917259092039918912007-09-25T13:44:00.000-05:002007-09-25T13:44:00.000-05:00I'm not saying that this isn't negative or that an...I'm not saying that this isn't negative or that anything is mitigated. I'm saying that you are being imprecise in the way you are writing about the results in this report. It troubles me, as someone who works on similar reports. Roughly speaking, I agree with all of your main points. You could write about the offenders in x percent of offenses as opposed to x percent of offenders. The report only tells you about offenders in x percent of offenses. It doesn't seem like a big difference, but it is an important difference.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-14368331245500906542007-09-25T13:25:00.000-05:002007-09-25T13:25:00.000-05:00Of course it says something about murderers, 12:50...Of course it says something about murderers, 12:50: It says that 39.3% of the time in 2006 they weren't arrested for the crime! Honestly I don't get your point. <BR/><BR/>Each of these crimes (at least violent and property crimes) has a victim. When the case isn't closed, the justice system has not provided closure to the victim in the incident. The fact that offenders might be arrested for something else later doesn't, to me, mitigate the declining clearance rates, it just means the crooks get to commit more crime before they're caught than in the past - that's a terrible outcome, and I still don't see how I'm misinterpreting it.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-50841438689597818802007-09-25T13:23:00.000-05:002007-09-25T13:23:00.000-05:00Police Departments request large budgets to "fight...Police Departments request large budgets to "fight crime". To get more money, they have to be sure the reported crime rate is sky high. A lot of time is spent recording crime statistics to justify getting more money.<BR/><BR/>Once the Police have the money, they use it to find and record more crime so they can get more money next year! Crime prevention is up to the law makers. All the law makers do is increase the penalties.<BR/><BR/>Once in a while the Police arrest someone for drug use or issue a traffic ticket. The Prosecutors now have something to do and City has an additional source of revenue. <BR/><BR/>This system provides no incentive to enhance Public Safety or crime prevention. Bottom line, this enormous boondoggle needs an overhaul!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-89089695109592707532007-09-25T12:50:00.000-05:002007-09-25T12:50:00.000-05:00I'm anon 10:43. I'm also a statistician and I'm j...I'm anon 10:43. I'm also a statistician and I'm just pointing out that the data refer to offenses, not offenders. If you want to talk about victims, then you can talk about the families of the victims of 39.3 percent of murders. <BR/><BR/>Anonymous 11:18, what's warped about wanting people to speak carefully about data? I said that the trend is disturbing, but it doesn't say a damn thing about murderers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-3633505875435548292007-09-25T12:03:00.000-05:002007-09-25T12:03:00.000-05:00Reported crimes are not investigated as throughly ...Reported crimes are not investigated as throughly (if at all) as they were 46 years ago. Today the patrol officer/Deputy takes a report and moves on to the next call holding. There is a reason for this and the liberals can be thanked for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-47182901935730652352007-09-25T11:18:00.000-05:002007-09-25T11:18:00.000-05:00Anonymous at 10:43It disturbs me that people like ...Anonymous at 10:43<BR/><BR/>It disturbs me that people like yourself have manage to warp their thinking processes to the point that they accept and promote this travesty.<BR/><BR/>It's clear what is happening, yet you try to make others and yourself, apparently, believe that it's not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-83834246421424158612007-09-25T10:51:00.000-05:002007-09-25T10:51:00.000-05:00Should the families of the 39.3 percent of murder ...Should the families of the 39.3 percent of murder victims be comforted by the fact that the offender <I>might</I> be dead or incarcerated for something else?<BR/><BR/>And how does your point mitigate the issue of declining clearance rates over past decades?<BR/><BR/>The guy who burglarized my house might well be arrested for something else down the line, but that doesn't make me feel less victimized or get my stuff back. I see your point, FWIW, but I don't think it's relevant to the question of how or why crime victims perceive law enforcement as ineffective.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-56541859882647401282007-09-25T10:43:00.000-05:002007-09-25T10:43:00.000-05:00The way I read that, it doesn't say anything about...The way I read that, it doesn't say anything about the percentage of any particular group of offenders, only offenses. Knowing what we know, it's likely that some portion of those guilty of the 40 percent uncleared murders are incarcerated for some other offense, or possibly victims of another murder. The data are disturbing, but they don't say what your trying to read them as saying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com