tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post4061780061266854056..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Busy day at capitol on juvie, women's correctionsGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-32924670020745916812010-02-04T21:52:48.557-06:002010-02-04T21:52:48.557-06:00Oh no. TYC clearly still has problems. Starting wi...Oh no. TYC clearly still has problems. Starting with the knee-jerk over-reacting politicizing idiot James Smith. Visitors to TYC be ready to cough up your keys at the gatehouse on Saturday and Sunday or else no quality family time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-52901571047492407952010-02-04T12:34:35.613-06:002010-02-04T12:34:35.613-06:00You hit the nail on the head 6:40am, it is time fo...You hit the nail on the head 6:40am, it is time for the Lege to step up and come up with a better plan. TYC has been on the morphine drip now for 3 years and nothing has improved, yes I said NOTHING! It is time to get rid of this useless Agency once and for all!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-67919784770497154762010-02-03T11:24:53.378-06:002010-02-03T11:24:53.378-06:00I agree. TYC has demonstrated many times that as a...I agree. TYC has demonstrated many times that as a youth organization, it is basically useless. With our curent monetary crisis this agency cannot be justified. The savings from overhead and floating staffers could be giantic. The agency is past its time and value.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-19035922701586534332010-02-03T06:40:01.154-06:002010-02-03T06:40:01.154-06:00Well if some across the state gets their wish ther...Well if some across the state gets their wish there will be NO kids locked up ever. The bleeding heart liberals at the Annie Casey Foundation (JDAI) want all kids released to terrorize the communities more. I have been a victim of crime and as a victim I wanted JUSTICE, not fluff BS.<br />As a juvenile probation officer I see these kids hit our system that if proper mental health care was available to them before they committed a delinquent act they would not be in our system.<br />TYC is not the place for the lesser offenses because they can't treat them. Shut TYC down, commit only 3G offenses to a TDCJ run facility, let's move on. RTC's are out there that can more adequately treat our troubled youth than TYC can. Save Texas $200 mill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-38655512909060215592010-02-01T14:21:14.207-06:002010-02-01T14:21:14.207-06:00Wow victims voice worshiping at the altar of reven...Wow victims voice worshiping at the altar of revenge. There’s an exorcist named Bob Larson who can help you.<br /><br />Like the Pinocchio story bad boys are sent to a place to be turned into jackasses, me coming out of tyc with refined and improved anti social behavior was expected. Went I was sent back to tyc for assault who was the victim? The group of boys I assaulted were Seniors who at one time were jocks but no longer played for the school. They were the school bullies. Because the parents were involved with the school and there was some affluent associated with them their bullying basically went unchecked. Until they put a nerdy kid in my locker. He was a nice kid and didn’t bother no one. Well it was time for ol Sheldon to check these punks and check I did. So 5 ex football jock want to bee’s proved no match to a state boy trained in the Mountain View Shuffle. My dad told me it would not have been so bad if I hadn’t publicly humiliated them. I know from my experience in tyc that publicly humiliating them was the only way to make them stop. That nerdy kid is still grateful to this day while one of the jock want to bees told me that was a life changing event, he’s a minister today.<br /><br />Therefore victims voice worshiping at the altar of revenge who was the victim in this case? If you answered the nerdy kid, the state boy, and the jock want to bees you answered correctly. You could have also added to that list the poor tyc emps who had to deal with my return. <br />Sheldon tyc#47333 C/S II<br />mvssb gssb ftycAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-58820478115292621962010-02-01T11:12:17.884-06:002010-02-01T11:12:17.884-06:00Poor TYC. Everyone and everything is faulty except...Poor TYC. Everyone and everything is faulty except the staff. Please give all the employees large pay raises. Blah.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-60190519144241982782010-01-31T18:01:21.068-06:002010-01-31T18:01:21.068-06:00The criminals deserve the same amount of empathy t...The criminals deserve the same amount of empathy they gave their victims. However, victimizing them is not the answer. Still, in my humble opinion the victims have more more moral authority to state their opinions than the criminals. There is abuse in TYC, but most of it is of the staff at the hands of the students, clueless management, and the lege.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-57348521476696534082010-01-31T16:52:30.618-06:002010-01-31T16:52:30.618-06:0011:23 the last paragraph was very well put.11:23 the last paragraph was very well put.RASnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-34911871325750738502010-01-31T11:23:47.575-06:002010-01-31T11:23:47.575-06:00So a person can now say I am a”victim”in attempt t...So a person can now say I am a”victim”in attempt to silence any opinion other than theirs . Yes losing a loved on no matter how is tragic but it is not the fault of every one serving time and you clearly want revenge not justice . How does brutalizing every human in prison solve anything ? It certainly is not going ot make any one any safer . As 90 + % of those in prison will be released most sooner than later. Does any one think that pole who have been tortured are going to become good consecutive members of society ? If anything they are going to be far worse off than before they went to prison . How does torturing someone make your pain and grief go away ?<br /><br /> I know of a “victims rights activist” whose daughter was killed . While tragic and no one should be murdered , had she not been playing the drug game she would be alive today The sad reality is her boyfriend a low level drug dealer , tried to rip off his supplier and since drugs are illegal they settled it with violence . That does not make it any less tragic or painful but I believe that there should be some honesty in this . If you are going to use your “victim status” in a public forum and worship at the alter of revenge , you have opened your self up to questioning and having unpleasant things made public . . Yes the person who killed is wrong . and should be held accountable .<br /><br />Calling any one who has done time names and saying that what ever a boss does to any one while incarcerated is just wrong . People yes human beings go to prison as punishment not to be punished . They are still human and despite what is popularly believed they have rights . Most are not wild eyed crazed Hannibal Lectors . That is a myth makes for good TV but is not remotely close to reality Yes I did time obviously . No I am not anti social or any of the thing soften more fiction than fact you choose to believe about a person who has done TDCJ time . <br /><br /> Those who are seeking revenge and wish harm to every one incarcerated have become the very tings they claim to despise and be against . <br /> <br />As stated If you are going to make things public expect that their will be a public response . Simply stating iam a victim's survivor will not end a debate and does not make you right It d oes howw ever make what ever you state public and open for public debate . <br /><br />Your word belie your intentions you seek revenge not justice . Yes let rape , abuse and torture those young “thugs “that will teach them to be good members of society right? Yeah it has worked wonders so far right? TYC and TDCJ are is a resounding successes ? So it is OK for the state via it's employees to rape assault and kill. If that is not both revenge and hypocrisy I don't know what is. This type of talk shows clearly that “victims rights “ is about revenge and giving the state power to exact it at any cost include incarcerating and or executing the innocent . <br /><br />If it matters I am the first to say there are those who need to be isolated from society and other humans .With the caveat we do it humanely as possible so we do not become what they are or have the state become the monster in our names .TDCJ EXnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-60782381468164813912010-01-30T22:16:15.749-06:002010-01-30T22:16:15.749-06:00Anyone that works for TYC after the past three yea...Anyone that works for TYC after the past three years of discovery is either a youth abuser or idiot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-36913465363607345022010-01-30T11:00:20.466-06:002010-01-30T11:00:20.466-06:00I agree with they that lost the daughter. How terr...I agree with they that lost the daughter. How terrible. I also think TYC staff should be allowed to continue to beat, drug, rape and misuse youth. Its a hard world out there and these youthful offenders need to learn about revenge and Carma.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-71721516701255546292010-01-30T10:10:53.180-06:002010-01-30T10:10:53.180-06:00Sheldon -
From a victim's prspective, you - q...Sheldon -<br /><br />From a victim's prspective, you - quit frankly - are full of shit. We could care less about what happens to you thugs that walked around in our community victimizing innocent Texans. My daughter was murdered by the hands of a young budding felon such as yourself, so I really have no sympathy for you or those like you. I hope TYC makes life hell for these thugs. They made their bed, now they'll sleep in it. I hope they do turn TYC into a section of TDCJ. You can't treat antisocial personality disorders - you're a prime example.Victims Voicenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-17148203039635561092010-01-30T08:50:39.603-06:002010-01-30T08:50:39.603-06:00Sheldon if my memory serves me right the Super at ...Sheldon if my memory serves me right the Super at Gainesville (up north) is Hawthorne. She is from Corsicana, but was a Director of security at this site. Prior to Hawthorne you had Martinez who was moved to Giddings, left and came back to Evins. Prior to Martinez you had Shorten, who was moved to Crockett.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-70481348988658756832010-01-29T20:04:34.689-06:002010-01-29T20:04:34.689-06:00I think the Legislators needs to hire a group of p...I think the Legislators needs to hire a group of people to descend on TYC and see just how much of that wonderful stuff that was told to them in the hearing from the leader is really true. I can tell you not one bit of it was correct information about what is really going on in that place. Nothing is in place and nothing she said is happening. Maybe on paper to make it look good, but not happening.<br /> I was appauld listening to that speech and then the committee telling her what a wonderful job she is doing.<br /> I am not saying she is not doing a good job, I may think that she is being lied to and does not know it. <br />Mrs.Townsend someone is blowing your dress up on what is taking place in TYC. Well it is not happening in Corsicana that is forsure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-71256053321457787212010-01-29T18:46:36.064-06:002010-01-29T18:46:36.064-06:00Sheldon, from your info. it appears you could have...Sheldon, from your info. it appears you could have been a real insider in the TYC Austin circle of criminals. The Catholic pass-abusers-around would take second place to TYC's mastery of this scheme. Its still going on and who will disrupt it? Stay on it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-30047543155692682552010-01-29T16:41:17.625-06:002010-01-29T16:41:17.625-06:00The tyc Texas’ 120 year old state sponsored agency...The tyc Texas’ 120 year old state sponsored agency for the mental, physical, sexual, verbal, and academic abuse of children. People who are defensive about tyc are most likely responsible for molesting children. Anon 9:35 is a good example of deflecting, that’s why the child abusers have to post anonymously. I have been able to communicate with tyc alumni that span from the 1940’s to 2008 and they all tell the same story. There are some positive results that come out of tyc but it’s not the norm. Like the Pinocchio story where bad boys are sent to a place and the vial people there turn them into jack ass’s, it’s a good fit metaphor for describing tyc. It’s a shameful culture that began with judgmental farmers and is being perpetuated by team playas. It will never change. Sadly people who work at tyc who actually want to help children are the real victims of that culture. <br /> <br />The leg has been apparently maneuvering tyc to be set up to where it can be turned over to TDC relatively easy so anon 7:46 you may have part of the solution. But until the state comes up with a solution to actually help teenagers with mental health issues we’re stuck funding a jobs program with benefits only a pedophile could love. I think RAS summed up the complexity of classifying these kids and filtering them to the right treatment programs, be it touchy feely or red necks on horses. This is the bottle neck that I think is the root cause of the failure. My example of being sent to tyc initially for truancy, but refusing to have sex with the ugly cowgirl caseworker who was in charge of classification at brownwood reception center had me sent to the maximum security unit Mountain View. Bty, Mountain View replaced the state boys home in Giddings in the late 70’s if anyone has ever been curious as to why Giddings is so messed up.<br /><br />The phrase mental health treatment in tyc always reminds me of big T, one of the dorm men from back in the day. He would say “medication for your retardation” and we would all file out to the infirmary to get our drugs. Unless you were competing in gladiator night, then you could be held back depending on whose money was riding on you. I suppose we could ask the citizens of Tyler Texas how the mental health treatment tyc offers worked out for them.<br /><br />Juvie mom I would love to meet your son. He was fortunate to be in Corsicana. The super who was there is a good person but was moved, I speculate, to clean up another facility up north. According to several alumni spanning the 2000 to 2005 from that facility up north it was perfectly ok for some dorm men to rape weaker boys in their cells. I suppose that’s why they had to move the super from Corsicana to replace the super up north who according to some was moved to Austin. Go figure, who says tyc cant adopt practices from other organization, isn’t that what the Catholic Church does.<br /><br />Sheldon tyc 47333 II c/s<br />mvssb gssb ftycAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-12940648802374383412010-01-29T14:49:11.737-06:002010-01-29T14:49:11.737-06:00TYC - Treatment : Oxymoron. Simple. Hit Delete. Fi...TYC - Treatment : Oxymoron. Simple. Hit Delete. Fixed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-17472687178707372612010-01-29T14:34:48.703-06:002010-01-29T14:34:48.703-06:00I know it's a waste of time to defend TYC. It...I know it's a waste of time to defend TYC. It's not really going to go away though. It'll be good to sunset it. That way the lege can't slap some paint on it and change its name and it won't look like they are not funding their mandates.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-64618994468723718762010-01-29T14:25:11.287-06:002010-01-29T14:25:11.287-06:00The one that thinks TYC should be hard core is rig...The one that thinks TYC should be hard core is right, the one that thinks TYC should be compassionate and provide psycho-therapy is right, the one that think the parents are the problem is right, the one that thinks the parents are the best hope for a real reversal of a kids direction is right. Over a thousand kids a year need a variety of approaches and provisions for changing approaches when the harsher ones are deemed no longer appropriate or when the more compassionate ones meet a stone wall that has to be broken down. Most kids need the close cooperation of parents and TYC, some need to be sent to some kind of boy's home to keep them away from their parents or maybe from their hood.RASnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-81169248261770320262010-01-29T14:23:30.179-06:002010-01-29T14:23:30.179-06:00You're correct 212. This also confirms that wh...You're correct 212. This also confirms that what little treatment kids do get, is faulty as provided by the TYC. Are they still using druggies to give the so - called - treatment? What a laugh. No, what a tragedy, and misuse of state provided funds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-81592885364558466812010-01-29T14:12:25.205-06:002010-01-29T14:12:25.205-06:00Did we forget about the report showing that TYC dr...Did we forget about the report showing that TYC drug treatment increaed recidivism rates?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-30715539571319717252010-01-29T13:27:34.717-06:002010-01-29T13:27:34.717-06:00You are apparently good at throwing stones. Rather...You are apparently good at throwing stones. Rather than fix the problem - the kids - you throw stones since you know you are a failure. You must move the blame from you so you can sleep at night. You are the prime example of why TYC is also a failure - state wide.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-81656897329508707072010-01-29T13:12:44.206-06:002010-01-29T13:12:44.206-06:00No one blamed the parent. The parent blamed the a...No one blamed the parent. The parent blamed the agency for not fixing her kid. The commenter just questioned her moral authority to criticize the agency. Why is it okay to criticize the people who have actually worked rather hard to help her son, but it's wrong to question her about her part in the process? I wish her and her son well, but when one throws stones one should expect to have them picked up and thrown back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-25013543591629783782010-01-29T13:03:33.187-06:002010-01-29T13:03:33.187-06:00Did your book get published Dr. Bush? Where do I ...Did your book get published Dr. Bush? Where do I get it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-54816068434216605342010-01-29T12:51:33.571-06:002010-01-29T12:51:33.571-06:00Blaming parents alone, as some commenters here are...Blaming parents alone, as some commenters here are doing, is something that juvie agencies and their staffs have been doing since before TYC was created.<br /><br />It is a waste of time to debate such people or to even take them seriously... which is probably why I hardly ever post here anymore.<br /><br />Bill B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com