tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post4104440564972935187..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Sugarland's Central Unit near top of possible prison closure listGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-69248194064881801872011-08-05T22:35:11.317-05:002011-08-05T22:35:11.317-05:00i was at central from 1984-1985 to bad to see a pa...i was at central from 1984-1985 to bad to see a part of histrey goAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-49870759002086951012010-09-29T18:08:11.984-05:002010-09-29T18:08:11.984-05:00What about the old Retrieve unit that was renamed ...What about the old Retrieve unit that was renamed Scott Unit, because of the old Ruiz vs Estelle case and the lawsuit, TDCJ was told to close the old Retrieve Unit (that is falling apart) down, but they just went and renamed it!<br />Any thoughts, Grits?dlucasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-17619724579386996722010-07-11T02:39:15.281-05:002010-07-11T02:39:15.281-05:00West Texas and Victory Field are gone
And while b...West Texas and Victory Field are gone<br /><br />And while being in a metropolitan area does not guarantee that a unit will be staffed, being in a desolate nowheresville may condemn a unit to being understaffedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-3167713975640040252010-01-26T22:06:23.497-06:002010-01-26T22:06:23.497-06:00Victory Field and West Texas each have fewer than ...Victory Field and West Texas each have fewer than 100 youth at the present time. Crockett has 122 youth. I'm not sure how many are actually at Gainesville and Corsicana, but Gainesville is the only one of the ones listed that has over 150 youth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-23401627844144538142010-01-26T22:02:13.413-06:002010-01-26T22:02:13.413-06:00I don't think they have updated that website i...I don't think they have updated that website in a year. TYC has scaled back in the facilities, while Central Office has grown, and they have not kept up. Look at the GAP - it is totally out of date.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-34815650428446613482010-01-25T14:22:18.534-06:002010-01-25T14:22:18.534-06:00Salty, I found this info on TYC's website. I...Salty, I found this info on TYC's website. I guess it is misleading the public also.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-29521888967405807592010-01-23T03:27:54.056-06:002010-01-23T03:27:54.056-06:00Where do you get 1042 beds from those 4 schools? C...Where do you get 1042 beds from those 4 schools? Crockett has already closed it's three old dorms, WTSS and VFCA are in the process of closing down. At the same time, Al Price and Mart have scaled back population drastically because of inability to staff those units; despite being in, or near metropolitan areas. (Contrary to the wisdom of the Lege, being in a metropolitan area does not guarantee availability of staff - at least not at the rates the State pays.)Old Saltynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-60312778171686508702010-01-22T21:13:40.264-06:002010-01-22T21:13:40.264-06:00Shutting down TYC units would create a economic ha...Shutting down TYC units would create a economic hardship in the counties where the units are located. Politics will not allow the sensible thing to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-37690805345336513792010-01-21T17:01:53.732-06:002010-01-21T17:01:53.732-06:00Again, lets look at TYC facolities:
Corsicana open...Again, lets look at TYC facolities:<br />Corsicana opened in 1889<br />Gainsville 1916<br />Crockett 1951<br />West Texas State School 1967<br />By closing these 1042 beds it will put TYC bed capacity at 2,396which gives them very close to what their predicted population with a contingency plan would be.<br />Victory Field (336 beds)should closed also due to deplorable facility conditions. Still would leave TYC with 2,060 beds, more than enough to accomodate the scaled down commission.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-2960430413899503322010-01-20T14:29:23.130-06:002010-01-20T14:29:23.130-06:00Well now Grits you have talked about another side ...Well now Grits you have talked about another side of this that I had not considered. Perry hacks who want the land the prison is on. <br /><br />Even though Perry's tenure as Governor includes an attempt at the biggest land grab ever (the Trans Tex Corridor) I can actually see him closing a unit or two for the benefit of his good ole boy buddies.<br /><br />Instead of releasing inmates though, I see them re-opening some of the closed wings at units they could not staff.Hook Em Hornshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660612847019528535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-1904517356533898072010-01-20T13:34:30.882-06:002010-01-20T13:34:30.882-06:00Boyness writes, "I still, personally, dont se...Boyness writes, "I still, personally, dont see Texas closing any prisons as long as Wig is in office"<br /><br />You know, people told me for years Texas' drug task forces would never shut down under Perry, then he <a href="http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2006/03/hug-drug-task-force-officer-hes-having.html" rel="nofollow">shut them down</a>, in large part because other interests he cared about were competing for the money (he shifted most of the task-force funds to border security).<br /><br />In this case, the folks who most want the Central Unit moved are Republican real-estate developers and the chamber of commerce crowd from Fort Bend County. I don't know about you, but to me that seems like a constituency Rick Perry might actually care about.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-59421823001454967052010-01-20T12:19:21.011-06:002010-01-20T12:19:21.011-06:00Texas has a dilemma. To close the Central Unit or ...Texas has a dilemma. To close the Central Unit or God forbid, the Walls, Texas would have to kiss a lot of it's prison history/tradition good-bye. Of course it makes sense to close the old brick and mortar buildings and keep the modern pole-barns they have built in places like Snyder that rely on TDCJ as an employer. <br /><br />Whatever decisions Texas makes, do not look for common sense to prevail, that just wont happen. I still, personally, dont see Texas closing any prisons as long as Wig is in office.Hook Em Hornshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660612847019528535noreply@blogger.com