tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post4449051104002016802..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: EFF: License plate readers shift traffic enforcement priorities to debt collectionGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-33423935855047513482016-02-04T11:45:47.331-06:002016-02-04T11:45:47.331-06:00I always chuckle when I hear people freaking out a...I always chuckle when I hear people freaking out about privacy. Be like me and accept it: THERE IS NO MORE PRIVACY!! The government has way too many gadgets they can use to obtain ANY information about ANYONE. As for the license plate readers, hell your neighbor is already using an app to get your info using your license plate. Long gone are the days of "getting to meet your neighbors". Like I said JUST ACCEPT IT AND QUIT SWEATING IT!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-62223478663777029872016-02-03T11:49:26.420-06:002016-02-03T11:49:26.420-06:00Anon 2/02/2016 07:00:00 PM,
you are probably refe...Anon 2/02/2016 07:00:00 PM, <br />you are probably referring to the Motorola based equipment that Houston used. It was constantly breaking down, would return hits 20 to 45 seconds after capture, and had a myriad of issues related to the accuracy of data. While most of the youtube clips Chris posts are from company websites and are suspect as any sales demonstration would be, technology is rapidly improving. The various versions used by Houston were best suited for parked cars, in parking lots downtown, apartment complexes, and other places where large volumes of vehicles could be processed. This is in part due to company connections to high ranking city employees that some claim are too friendly, perhaps even on the vendors payroll, but I have no firsthand information in that regard.<br /><br />Technology is improving but there are still major issues involved, some of it related to exactly what an agency wants to find, from toll road violators, stolen cars, warrants (city, county, state, and NCIC), or even based on reports of suspicious activity. Larger cities always want more comprehensive systems yet are less willing to pay enough to maintain them, hence the many reported problems from Houston and Dallas. Smaller agencies have fewer issues for all the expected reasons.The Phantom Bureaucratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-41605309912770747802016-02-02T23:06:37.226-06:002016-02-02T23:06:37.226-06:00Here it is real time, stationary at a toll "b...Here it is real time, stationary at a toll "booth"<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkI7bITDzxI<br /><br />Here it is real time in a cop car in 2006:<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA5Gy32aqdoChris Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837397319040457859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-35844922507819798662016-02-02T19:00:39.002-06:002016-02-02T19:00:39.002-06:00Having worked with these devices previously, two d...Having worked with these devices previously, two different versions of them, they are nowhere near as fast as displayed. I'm sure many officers would like such gear if it worked as shown but the reality is that they were never even close to that fast on the slowest of nights when traffic was light and the devices were working perfectly, a rarity to be addressed as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-68478455790361648112016-02-02T15:09:27.953-06:002016-02-02T15:09:27.953-06:00And from video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4...And from video:<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4Dx1OGKu88Chris Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837397319040457859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-8622475650781799252016-02-02T15:07:13.454-06:002016-02-02T15:07:13.454-06:00Here is a demonstration of actual speed.
https://w...Here is a demonstration of actual speed.<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX1cwvFsiAAChris Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837397319040457859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-3010747863043627932016-02-02T15:04:01.513-06:002016-02-02T15:04:01.513-06:00@Anonymous 2:13
This is a demonstration using ope...@Anonymous 2:13<br /><br />This is a demonstration using open source tools using a normal photograph. It takes about 2 seconds of processing to obtain the correct number. It would take about 10 milliseconds to further match that number against a hit list.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmDiZGx5mqUChris Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837397319040457859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-39091868909813481252016-02-02T03:48:38.589-06:002016-02-02T03:48:38.589-06:00He's Innocent, if you knowingly drive a car th...He's Innocent, if you knowingly drive a car that has warrants attached to the plate by virtue of a previous driver, you may well be stopped and a few questions asked. As long as you have your driver license and insurance, you will be sent on your merry way, no harm, no foul, though they may run it to see if you have any violations. There's no need to embellish during such speculation as the state doesn't allow for the cop to confiscate the car or they would have done that on the original traffic stop.<br /><br />Past experiences with such devices is that they return notice of violations too late to have an impact in a big city such as Dallas or Houston, at least with moving traffic, both communities under staffed enough that even free, they are not going to make full use of them in the first place. All it takes is a 30 second delay and they are rendered useless under many conditions, existing communication devices well known to offer many additional quirks to limit their impact under most real life conditions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-90802667436874708972016-02-01T12:13:45.796-06:002016-02-01T12:13:45.796-06:00Be afraid, be very, very afraid.
This is indeed a...<br />Be afraid, be very, very afraid.<br /><br />This is indeed a slippery slope. If you are driving a car that is known to have an outstanding fine against it, but you did not incur that violation, will they demand payment from you anyway? Haul you off to jail anyway? Then you are a hostage to their demands of payment. What happens to your kids that were in the car as well? The dog?<br /><br />What about folks like me who have no convictions on their record, but as part of my spouse's probation, my car is "recorded" as a vehicle he may be driving. If they want, they can pull me over for that reason ALONE and harass me. What will the plate reader system enable them to do? They going to harass me because I am in a child safe zone in a car that the computer alerted was not to be in a child safe zone because he is a registered citizen?<br /><br />Oh, you who are naive, you should trust Scott's instinct on this and be very, very afraid. <br /><br />I am.<br /><br />He's Innocentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-7753554186375975502016-01-28T17:33:01.218-06:002016-01-28T17:33:01.218-06:00Given the sheer amount of warrants cities and coun...Given the sheer amount of warrants cities and counties across the state have, not to mention how many stolen cars are out there driving around on a given day, I don't see a lot of people opposing this technology. As cities like Houston face financial shortfalls of $126 million later this year, or Dallas digs deeper in debt, a company offering free equipment while making the offender pay the cost of collection is going to look pretty sweet to some of the tea party crowd driving state and county government these days.<br /><br />So while the license plates are public by virtue they are displayed in public every time we drive along a roadway, the data tied to them might be made less so even with public record access being what it is. Should local governments resist the siren's call when the alternative is their need to dig deeper into our pockets to pay for the services we all demand? Is there anyone out there that thinks it is more likely that the current crop of state leaders won't jump on the bandwagon as long as the state gets a cut than for them to pass legislation against it?<br /><br />And George, a youngster like you has been around to see far worse from government, at least if you grew up in this country, those who hearken to the good old days sometimes need to be reminded that however good they may have been for some of you, they weren't always so great for the rest of us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-49043363820838411112016-01-28T07:50:06.466-06:002016-01-28T07:50:06.466-06:00@ Anonymous 09:19
There is a way to stop this sor...@ Anonymous 09:19<br /><br />There is a way to stop this sort of behavior from allowing our elected officials to ok this sort of thing but that would involve practically every citizen of this state to 1) Register to vote, 2) Actually go and vote, 3) Actively communicate with your Senator and Representative after the vote, and 4) Remain politically active and educated on just what these elected officials are doing. That is the only thing that really matters to the state legislators, those who will vote them into office -- an office that offers them an opportunity to get their piece of the pie that private industry puts on the plate.<br /><br />The politicians of our modern era know that this will most likely not happen. They have learned that most of the people who vote for them are either connected in some way to the special interest groups, ( Vigilant, private prisons and the companies who supply these industries, etc. the list goes on and on ), or they are "team" supporters, meaning that they pretty much blindly support their Democrat or Republican regardless of what they do or don't do in office. They listen to their cheerleaders such as Rush, to name one in particular, and get all wound up and ripping and rearing to have a go at anyone who dares to challenge the rhetoric.<br /><br />We all could bring about change, just by voting and encouraging our families, friends and neighbors to do the same. The change would be dramatic and speak loudly to those who would purport to control our elected officials that the citizens have spoken and will continue to do so.<br /><br />Will this happen? I doubt it, cynically speaking, I'm 60 now and it just seems like the younger citizens simply aren't motivated to become actively involved in the political process. They should be though because they truly the future of our state and nation. At some point, this madness of big money controlling government must stop.Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-61250954861220203382016-01-27T17:38:42.253-06:002016-01-27T17:38:42.253-06:00Hell yeah. Last thing we want is cops indenturing ...Hell yeah. Last thing we want is cops indenturing people with warrants and making them pay them. Our schools have too much funding and our roads are perfect. People shouldn't be expected to pay for their crimes if they can just ignore the warrant. That's what our forefathers would have wanted!<br /><br />And license plates aren't public. If the law was meant to make us responsible for our vehicles because they are potentially dangerous machines it would say that license plates have to be clearly displayed at all times. Where I drive each day shouldn't be something anyone can figure out just by looking at my car.<br /><br />What is becoming of America!!?!?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-21227935189741658502016-01-27T09:19:00.579-06:002016-01-27T09:19:00.579-06:00This is truly scary. Seems as if there is no priv...This is truly scary. Seems as if there is no privacy anymore, and that this data can be used for any purpose. I wish there was a way to stop this absurd continuation of privacy invasion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com