tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post5372484729283794334..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Did Todd Willingham confess or did Stacy Kuykendall lie?Gritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger93125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-90073814319702060302010-07-23T17:46:58.031-05:002010-07-23T17:46:58.031-05:0010/27/2009 04:57:00 PM: No, shame on her. She had ...10/27/2009 04:57:00 PM: No, shame on her. She had to have lied.<br /><br />10/28/2009 08:15:00 AM : No, give your respect back to Grits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-3293344641202562572009-11-17T18:53:47.622-06:002009-11-17T18:53:47.622-06:00Agreed, Chris. It is unlikely that he set a fire a...Agreed, Chris. It is unlikely that he set a fire and then decided to take a nap. Reasonable doubt has been established and Willingham's legacy may be changes in the standards for investigating arson. It is not something I am educated in but I see many shades of gray between the black and the white.SBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17771426407793750051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-61819873189203047092009-11-17T16:25:55.823-06:002009-11-17T16:25:55.823-06:00SB,
You might be thinking of the anonymous poster...SB,<br /><br />You might be thinking of the anonymous poster who was sparring with me. I have not previously offered an opinion on whether or not he set the fire. I think that Mr. Willingham's story that his eldest daughter (Amber, IIRC) woke him up is at least as problematic for those who believe the fire was arson as for those who believe the fire was accidental. If one believes it was accidental, one might assume that Mr. Willingham overlooked Amber in the hallway as he theorized. Or one might argue that she was still in the children’s bedroom when she called out to him. However, if Mr. Willingham set the fire deliberately, why would he make up the story that Amber woke him up when such a story raises the question of why he did not save her? Why would he not say that the smoke woke him up? The bottom line for me is that his account of his actions does not make him look heroic, but it does not make him look guilty of arson either. <br /><br />ChrisChris Halkideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933976220776524122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-12430312772230124912009-11-17T10:11:39.932-06:002009-11-17T10:11:39.932-06:00I have to agree, Chris. The report is scientific a...I have to agree, Chris. The report is scientific and not about guilt or punishment. But I thought you were one that refused to accept that it could have happened another way. I fact, I thought you were adamant that Willingham could have saved his older child.<br />Willingham may have been guilty as sin but the source of the fire has proved questionable. Reasonable doubt exists in the facts that got this man the death penalty.SBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17771426407793750051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-20619555508711616942009-11-16T20:51:15.871-06:002009-11-16T20:51:15.871-06:00I have just re-read the Beyler report. There is n...I have just re-read the Beyler report. There is not a single mention of the death penalty, nor is Mr. Willingham’s guilt or lack thereof discussed. Dr. Beyler concluded that a finding of arson cannot be sustained. Here and elsewhere, some supporters of the death penalty have argued that the Beyler report is biased, anti-death penalty propaganda. Others have pointed out that his report does not rule out arson. It is difficult to reconcile these two positions. How can both points of view be held at the same time?<br /><br />ChrisChris Halkideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933976220776524122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-8396331942629836942009-11-16T12:24:17.569-06:002009-11-16T12:24:17.569-06:00Correction again. I said: "Also, one day wh...Correction again. I said: "Also, one day when we were visiting our sister, 6 weeks before the murder, I saw my beloved brother look back at his soon-to-be murder with a look of such fear and terror on his face as I had never seen before on my brother's face and he was not known to be afraid of anyone."<br /><br />I meant: "Also, one day when we were visiting our sister, 6 weeks before the murder, I saw my beloved brother look back at his soon-to-be murderer with a look of such fear and terror on his face as I had never seen before on my brother's face and he was not known to be afraid of anyone."<br /><br />And you wonder why I FIRMLY believe and stake my life on it and that of my beloved murdered brother James, that Cameron Todd Willingham was indeed guilty. His behavior was pretty incriminating and his statements too...all this apart from the physical evidence. He acted real guilty. A normal person would never have acted like he did.<br /><br />Any ideas, comments?<br /><br />JeanJeannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-55547871257026245422009-11-16T12:18:32.312-06:002009-11-16T12:18:32.312-06:00My brother Frank has already contacted the governo...My brother Frank has already contacted the governor of Florida a couple of times but he would not do anything about it. So much for that.<br /><br />Everything I said is the absolute truth. We all have to live with the tragic loss of our beloved brother. He did not deserve to die the way he did. There were over 200 people at his funeral. A mexican guy and his wife were standing there with tears streaming down their cheeks. Our brother was their "amigo". Our brother was popular and well-liked.<br /><br />We have never gotten over the loss of our beloved brother. His name was James Patrick "Hambone" Brown. He was born on Aug. 30, 1963 at Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas, Texas and he died on Sun. Sept. 15, 1991 at 10:19 pm at Lee Memorial Hospital in Fort Myers, Lee County, Florida.<br /><br />We took the loss of Hambone real hard, and as I said, we have never gotten over it and we all still have problems dealing with it after all these years.<br /><br />What was the hardest, was KNOWING that he was murdered, but the law enforcement and judicial system deliberately and intentionally covered up his murder and others and called it an accidental death; although the coroner who did the autopsy said no way was it an accidental death, it was murder and nothing else but murder. Oh well, I will leave it in the hands of God, and He will punish this cold-blooded murderer severely with no mercy as she showed no mercy to my brother and murdered him for nothing.<br /><br />Hambone was known to have told people 6 weeks before he was murdered that he was afraid that she was going to murder him. Also, one day when we were visiting our sister, 6 weeks before the murder, I saw my beloved brother look back at his soon-to-be murder with a look of such fear and terror on his face as I had never seen before on my brother's face and he was not known to be afraid of anyone.<br /><br />Hambone was only 28 when he was murdered...2 weeks after his 28th birthday. He was born the day before my 9th birthday. We all miss him so much.<br /><br />Because I believe in a God, I look forward to seeing my beloved brother again someday. This is a great comfort and solace. It still hurts terribly when I think about James aka "Hambone". I gave him the nickname "Hambone" when I was a kid in California and it stuck. He said he had been called "Hambone" for so long that he felt like it was his name and he felt strange when he was called by his name James.<br /><br />We all love him so much. He was never married nor did he have any kids. He figured someday. The women loved my brother. He had a way with women and treated them real nice. Just a bad one finally did him in.<br /><br />Any ideas, any comments?<br /><br />JeanJeannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-36446989805480647042009-11-16T03:50:06.905-06:002009-11-16T03:50:06.905-06:00The system is corrupt but nowhere is as bad as FL....The system is corrupt but nowhere is as bad as FL. But justice is to sell to the highest bidder. O.J. had more money to spend than the prosecutor.<br />I have no faith in the system. I don't trust government to execute people. I don't trust evidence they put out for the public. I don't trust laws they make. One person cannot bring about change and most people don't worry about it.<br />The abuse of power is everywhere. Maybe you can write you story based on the facts you have and put it out in the media. Publicity sometimes shakes some things loose.SBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17771426407793750051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-80752813504409732972009-11-16T02:44:46.329-06:002009-11-16T02:44:46.329-06:00Katy Hall, the murderer of my brother James on Sep...Katy Hall, the murderer of my brother James on Sept. 15, 1991 in Hendry County, Florida...had stabbed one guy but he survived. She was never charged in this attempted 1st-degree murder. Then she stabbed another man and he died. She was never charged in this 1st-degree murder. Then she stabbed my brother and he died. She was never charged in this 1st-degree murder either.<br /><br />Then, I was told, she went to a northern state and committed another 1st-degree murder, but, as she was in a different state, she was tried and convicted of 2nd-degree murder and sentenced to 25 years-to-life in prison...so I am told.<br /><br />Her name is Katy Hall, aka Jeri Kay Hall. She was about 37 in 1991 when she cold-bloodedly murdered my brother. Tell me that she did not deserve the electric chair. She committed three 1st-degree murders, and an attempted 1st-degree murder, yet she was never charged in the other 2 murders, nor in the attempted 1st-degree murder. Why? They had the evidence...they could have sent her to the electric chair but they refused to do anything about these murders and the attempted murder. Why?<br /><br />I saw the mattress cover that my brother was bleeding to death on. It has a blood stain about 2 feet across...I believe. My sister still has it. A big pool of blood on it. She kept it just in case that corrupt so-called "justice system" decided to prosecute the serial killer who murdered my brother but they never did.<br /><br />You CAN commit murder in Florida and get away with it. You just have to know the right people, have enough clout, and enough money and you can do like OJ did...commit any murders you want and walk away scot-free without punishment.<br /><br />Any ideas, any comments?<br /><br />JeanJeannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-87313935428004070642009-11-15T15:18:18.905-06:002009-11-15T15:18:18.905-06:00I put the wrong link to the story above but can fi...I put the wrong link to the story above but can find the correct one.<br />It is a good link with a victim's family calling for anger to be turned around and used in a positive way.<br />We have a system you do not trust but you give them your blessing to carry out executions of your choice.<br />Todd Willingham was a young man. His suffering would have gone on and on with life in prison. Execution set him free.SBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17771426407793750051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-90319910893317924462009-11-15T15:00:27.858-06:002009-11-15T15:00:27.858-06:00Let's look at the views of 10 families whose l...Let's look at the views of 10 families whose loved ones were taken.<br /><br />Many of the victims’ families expected closure after last night’s execution of John Allen Muhammad, the DC Sniper who killed 10 people over a three week period in 2002. But it seems that most of them felt grief and sadness instead. Many of the victim’s family members said that Muhammad’s death doesn’t change anything and it doesn’t bring family members back.<br /><br />Muhammad died by lethal injection Tuesday night while his victims’ survivors watched through a one way mirrored window. Muhammad said nothing before his death when given a chance to make a final statement and he was pronounced dead at 9:11 pm.<br />http://www.examiner.com/x-27745-SF-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m11d1-The-family-of-the-Richmond-California-gang-rape-victim-is-calling-for-positive-action<br />One of these family members expressed feeling of horror as he watched the life being purposely drained from this man’s body. There is no doubt this man was evil but as long as he was alive there was someone to blame for the pain and suffering of those left behind. The hurt and suffering did not end with this execution. The general feeling is that they were given an additional burden to carry and there is no place to direct these emotions. Execution is a one-time shot unless someone messes up. That is the end of the quest for closure and it falls far short of what is expected.SBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17771426407793750051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-52323381192366688172009-11-15T14:05:44.113-06:002009-11-15T14:05:44.113-06:00Correction again: I said in my 1:46 pm post: &qu...Correction again: I said in my 1:46 pm post: "I used to be against the cold-blooded murder of unborn babies up to the 3rd month...until I found out they do it up to 9 months, even minutes before birth for ANY reason. Then I became AGAINST murder...before birth and after birth. So there."<br /><br />I meant: "I used to be FOR the cold-blooded murder of unborn babies up to the 3rd month...until I found out they do it up to 9 months, even minutes before birth for ANY reason. Then I became AGAINST murder...before birth and after birth. So there."Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01955453054660380107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-69740051544853308802009-11-15T13:53:52.262-06:002009-11-15T13:53:52.262-06:00And one more thing, before I have to go...
My bro...And one more thing, before I have to go...<br /><br />My brother's MURDER was deliberately and intentionally covered up by the sheriff's dept. in Hendry Country, Florida and other people involved. We know this for a fact.Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01955453054660380107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-17841843066720091172009-11-15T13:50:36.941-06:002009-11-15T13:50:36.941-06:00Correction: Paragraph 5: I said "Anti-death...Correction: Paragraph 5: I said "Anti-death penalty do not even think for 1 second about the murder victims and their survivors because all they care about is the mad-dog killer."<br /><br />I meant: "Anti-death penalty people do not even think for 1 second about the murder victims and their survivors because all they care about is the mad-dog killer."<br /><br />Sorry...in a hurry because I have to go somewhere.<br /><br />And yes, I like grits.Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01955453054660380107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-36438640854854418302009-11-15T13:46:54.523-06:002009-11-15T13:46:54.523-06:00I strongly believe that OJ was guilty as sin and t...I strongly believe that OJ was guilty as sin and that he got away with murder. The dead giveaway in his case was that he did not kill the kids in the house to eliminate all possible witnesses when he knew they were there. No self-respecting murderer would leave witnesses alive that could possibly identify them and there is NO way that the murderer was that sloppy in his actions that he would let witnesses live. He would have made sure to eliminate them too as all the world knew she had kids in the house. That's why I know OJ did it as he let the kids live because they were HIS kids. There you are. Another scumbag murderer got away with murder.<br /><br />Katy Hall got away with the murder because her family had lots of local clout and money and had connections with the local law enforcement. They would never pursue her even tho they knew how to find her.<br /><br />You CAN get away scot-free in Florida with premeditated 1st-degree murder if you know the right people and have money and other connections. I lived in that hellhole for 25 years and I finally got out. My whole family knows that James was murdered and so said the coroner who did the autopsy on my murdered brother. <br /><br />I no longer live in that corrupt hellhole but I still have family there and I have to go back in December to see the family as my sister is seriously ill due to extreme medical malpractice by quacks with a medical degree and license. Florida doctors are the worst in the nation.<br /><br />I used to be against the death penalty until I started looking at and thinking about the victim and I stopped worrying about mad-dog killers who deserve execution and nothing less. Anti-death penalty do not even think for 1 second about the murder victims and their survivors because all they care about is the mad-dog killer.<br /><br />The only thing that should be considered is justice for the VICTIMS...not the criminal who murdered. <br /><br />The ONLY question should be is IF the killer did it or not.<br /><br />Then the next question should be, WHEN to execute the murderer...and that's all.<br /><br />Anyone who opposes the death penalty, opposes justice for the victim, and is uncivilized, and extremely barbaric. They put me in mind of Adolph Hitler...the only people who deserve rights is the ones he thought should deserve rights.<br /><br />These are the same people who would murder a baby at nine months of pregnancy and call it a woman's right. As a mother of 6 kids, how can murdering a baby before birth be a right? And what gives them the right to refuse to call it murder and persecute people who in good conscience oppose it.<br /><br />I used to be against the cold-blooded murder of unborn babies up to the 3rd month...until I found out they do it up to 9 months, even minutes before birth for ANY reason. Then I became AGAINST murder...before birth and after birth. So there.Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01955453054660380107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-71318375264209609012009-11-15T07:02:30.277-06:002009-11-15T07:02:30.277-06:00Jean, we certainly agree that the system lacks jus...Jean, we certainly agree that the system lacks justice. Why are people out to kill all the members of your family?<br />You have seen haphazard prosecutions yet you think everything in the Willingham case was done exactly right. He didn't have money to buy innocence and kids do start fires. The guilty sometimes get away with murder. Look at O. J. The poor that depend on court appointed attorneys get convicted. There is the possibility that some of those executed were innocent. The system is corrupt.SBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17771426407793750051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-15401710760400920982009-11-15T04:34:19.128-06:002009-11-15T04:34:19.128-06:00Another correction:
Paragraph 6, I said "I s...Another correction:<br /><br />Paragraph 6, I said "I see the same pattern in his case as I see in her case...lack of remorse, continuously changing their stories, continuously lying and telling fantastic stories that are clearly true."<br /><br />I meant to say "I see the same pattern in his case as I see in her case...lack of remorse, continuously changing their stories, continuously lying and telling fantastic stories that are clearly NOT true."Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01955453054660380107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-10919442759564950322009-11-15T04:31:36.253-06:002009-11-15T04:31:36.253-06:00PS: In my 5th paragraph, I said "Accidents d...PS: In my 5th paragraph, I said "Accidents do NOT happen and this fire was NO accident." <br /><br />I meant to say "Accidents just do NOT happen right out of a clear blue sky with no possible explanation as to what caused it and this fire was NO accident."<br /><br />Also, I could have posted as "Anonymous" but chose to use my actual name.Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01955453054660380107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-19525626715941938982009-11-15T04:24:54.393-06:002009-11-15T04:24:54.393-06:00From the totality of the evidence, not just the ph...From the totality of the evidence, not just the physical evidence at the scene, but from what the witnesses saw and heard and from the trial testimony and from the city of Corsicana's rebuttal to Mr. Beyler's pack of lies and extreme anti-death penalty propaganda, it is pretty obvious that he did, in fact, commit these murders.<br /><br />I have survived an actual housefire that was much, much worse that the one that Mr. Willingham set so as to kill his 3 innocent little children. Trust me, I know more about fires than you probably do.<br /><br />What convinces me, more than anything, is that he refused to go back in the house when it was first smoldering. Also, he could have gotten at least one of the children out of that house. Why didn't he? Also, he changed his story on the fire, I understand, about 27 times. I am not even considering any evidence about arson. I am considering the TOTALITY of the evidence. The fire was NOT started by electricity or by gas. That was ruled out. This scumbag murderer LIED about everything. He also confessed to 2 people: the other inmate and his ex-wife...just before his much-deserved execution. <br /><br />I read the 21-page rebuttal by Corsicana's Fire Chief, Donald McMullan and it is pretty convincing.<br /><br />I have read and googled and read everything I can find on this tragedy. I will tell you that fires don't set themselves. Accidents do NOT happen and this fire was NO accident. So if it was NOT an accident, then it was murder...an intentionally set fire...meant to kill those 3 adorable kids.<br /><br />Down in Florida, they have the Casey Anthony murder case where that monster of a mother murdered her 2-year-old daughter, Cayley Anthony and they are going for the death penalty and she is so obviously guilty. I see the same pattern in his case as I see in her case...lack of remorse, continuously changing their stories, continuously lying and telling fantastic stories that are clearly true.<br /><br />Only a person who is obviously prejudiced or biased against the death penalty or Stacy Kuykendall will refuse to see the plainly obvious guilt of this monster, and of the one in Florida. Both scumbags, and both monsters. I was almost murdered in a housefire...it was a firebomb. We know how it happened, and we know why...we just don't know WHO did it.<br /><br />When my brother was murdered in Florida by a serial killer, the law enforcement covered up his murder [1st-degree, no less] and let his murderer go scot-free because her family had money and connections. They called it an accidental death, but we know better. Also, my cousin in another state was murdered by her husband, and again, it was covered up by the so-called "justice system" and law enforcement...another "accidental death". Another cousin murdered in California...the murderer received a slap on the wrist...because he was wealthy and had connections, apparently.<br /><br />The coroner who did the autopsy on my murdered brother SAID it was murder, but the corrupt law enforcement and corrupt, so-called "judicial system" in Florida, deliberately and intentionally covered up his murder and others as well. <br /><br />I see the same pattern of Willingham's lies & deception, and the TOTALITY of the evidence in Willingham's case. He clearly is guilty...no doubt about it. I have racked my brain to come up with any explanation for his supposed "innocence", but I cannot come up with any conclusion but that he is GUILTY as sin. His behavior from the moment that he set the fire until his execution proves that.<br /><br />Also, I am NOT going to call a grieving mother, Ms. Kuykendall, a LIAR, when she SAYS that he confessed to her. Nor am I going to call a fellow inmate who testified that Willingham confessed to him a liar either. So there.Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01955453054660380107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-49584502243329193582009-11-15T02:05:57.839-06:002009-11-15T02:05:57.839-06:00Jean. Much of what you say is opinion with no proo...Jean. Much of what you say is opinion with no proof to back it up. It sounds like you have a dog in this fight. Did you know these family members? Are you a relative?<br />Do we take the word of a jailhouse snitch? Why are the tapped conversations with Stacy being release? If there was a conversation it would be available.Through long posts here I would say there is reasonable doubt. When in doubt don't execute. Life without parole is also life without hope. Tx has made many mistakes on death row inmates and sentencing was done in the usual way. There was the appearance of a solid case. I would bet you decided Willingham's guilt before the jury did.SBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17771426407793750051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-83564371325423641852009-11-15T00:32:30.754-06:002009-11-15T00:32:30.754-06:00I totally believe that Cameron Todd Willingham mur...I totally believe that Cameron Todd Willingham murdered his 3 kids in cold blood to get back at his wife; and/or to get rid of his unwanted kids because they were an impediment to his lifestyle.<br /><br />It wasn't just the arson evidence, but also eyewitness evidence as to his behavior and other things after the fire.<br /><br />The evidence clearly shows that Cameron Todd Willingham did murder his 3 daughters and even confessed to another inmate that he murdered his 3 kids and even confessed to his ex-wife that he murdered their 3 kids.<br /><br />Also his ex-wife supported him in the beginning and later became absolutely convinced of his guilt in the murders of her 3 kids.<br /><br />Also, the defense attorney who defended him at trial came to believe that he, in fact, did commit these murders.<br /><br />Also, his actions when the house first started burning, and later on...were not the actions of an innocent man. His story changed, I understand, 27 times. And you say he is innocent?<br /><br />He had full review by every court in this country many, many times and they upheld his guilt every time. And you tell me this monster and scumbag and murderer of 3 innocent little girls is innocent?<br /><br />If he were innocent, then those 3 adorable little girls would still be alive.<br /><br />He deserved execution for these cruel, vicious murders and he got a gentle death for the vicious, cruel, inhumane, and heinous murders of his 3 daughters.<br /><br />Goodbye, and good riddance, monster and scumbag!<br /><br />The report by Beyler is a pack of lies, gross errors and distortions of the truth, and extreme anti-death penalty propaganda by anti-death penalty fanatics who will stop at nothing to deprive the surviving relatives of murder victims of any justice and closure by doing any ridiculous stunt possible to stop the rightful carrying out of the death penalty to vicious, mad dog killers who deserve execution.<br /><br />All they talk about is the murderer...not a word about the victim or what they suffered.<br /><br />The city of Corsicana had their Fire Department issue a 21-page rebuttal to the pack of lies by Beyler which is chock-full of death-penalty propaganda by anti-death penalty extremists. It was pretty convincing...1,000 times more convincing than Mr. Beyler's pack of lies, deliberate distortions of the truth, gross errors and other wrongdoing in this so-called "report".<br /><br />I also believe Ms. Kuykendall. I read her statement 5 times and the more I read it the more I am convinced that she is telling the truth.<br /><br />Leave Ms. Kuykendall alone and don't cause her more pain. Let her have some peace and comfort in knowing that the vicious, mad-dog killer of her 3 adorable babies has paid for his monstruos crime. <br /><br />I am a housefire survivor myself. The fire was definitely arson and I almost died in that fire. My injuries are permanent. We know why the fire happened; we just don't know who did it. The fire marshall said "cause undetermined...still investigating".<br /><br />A house can burn down in half the time you think it can. My injuries are permanent and I have to live with them the rest of my life. Oh well. But I did object to being murdered so I tried my best to survive and I did...but with serious injuries. You never forget that smell or the way the smoke looks that comes from a burning house.Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01955453054660380107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-6637053054434739902009-11-03T11:48:11.677-06:002009-11-03T11:48:11.677-06:00Anon 2:27, that is the most cogent explanation of ...Anon 2:27, that is the most cogent explanation of the death penalty farce in Texas I have ever heard. <br /><br />You really need your own blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-7122740645892677822009-11-02T10:52:12.914-06:002009-11-02T10:52:12.914-06:00Yeah, I get it so cut the crap long enough to see ...Yeah, I get it so cut the crap long enough to see who agrees with you and who doesn't. My post was in reply to someone else's post that was hotly defending Willingham's conviction.<br />If there was a confession on tape pr anywhere else it would have been used to slap the rest of us down. I expect that we have executed more than one innocent man just as we have convicted many innocent men. That this is the tip of the ice berg is only how I feel.<br />The name Todd Willingham has caused a lot of people to stop, question and take an interest in our brand of justice. No, I don't think Willingham was guilty and I hope the hell that his legacy is to bring change. It is time to stop the persecution, convictions and even executions of those that are disliked. There is a difference between morals and crimes but our society today is even quicker to pass judgment. Piss people off and they will be looking for an opportunity to bring you down.<br />We have this great saying of "Kill them all and let God sort them out".<br />That seems to be the theme in TX. To hell with guilt or innocence in the case that got them there He just wasn't a very nice person and that is enough for vicious minds and politics.SBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17771426407793750051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-24006533762987280702009-11-02T09:10:28.468-06:002009-11-02T09:10:28.468-06:00I guess you all still don't get it. It doesn&...I guess you all still don't get it. It doesn't matter how Willingham reacted to the fire. He was not supposed to be convicted of reacting badly, he was supposed to be convicted of deliberately setting the fire to willfully kill his children. <br /><br />So I'll say it again. We're not supposed to charge, convict and execute people for being the kind of human being we don't approve of. Not for reacting badly in emergencies. Not for being cowards who don't save their own children. Not for liking hard rock. Not for admiring Satanic art. Not even for actually being Satanists if that's what floats their boat. We're not supposed to execute people for being what we don't want them to be.<br /><br />We do charge, convict and execute people who deliberately and willfully murder others. Now if you can show me proof positive that he willfully and deliberately set the fire with the intention of causing the death of his children, I'll say okay. Until then, speculating what one may do during a fire or other emergency is meaningless. As is speculation on the quality of Willinghams character, that of his wife and their extended families. <br /><br />If you wish to have a legal system that works with gossip, assumptions and the prejudices of the local yahoos, congratulations. Mission accomplished. If you wish to have a legal system that works with the presumption of innocent until proven guilty, works in a fair and just manner and is concerned with justice and truth over numbers and dollars, there's a very long way to go.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-24157811767340416922009-11-02T05:25:45.456-06:002009-11-02T05:25:45.456-06:00Steambadger,
I had to standby helplessly as the li...Steambadger,<br />I had to standby helplessly as the life drained out of my child. I survived because it was like an out of body experience. None of my reactions were what I expected.<br />So you have been through a fire and handled it calmly. Good for you! You really don't seem like a calm person. Your fire was not a duplicate of the Willingham fire so don't pull your with me. It sounds more like you were in firefighting school at College Station. I don't care. When you awake from a deep sleep and your home is blazing the first thing I wondered is if I were still asleep and if running from the fire is part of a nightmare. You expect Willingham to react in a professional manner and it didn't happen. And out of dozens of posts I wonder how I hit a nerve.<br />I don't know what happened but I can say for sure that today there is certainly reasonable doubt. I shut up a long time ago because I had nothing factual to add.You should do the same and take your emotions elsewhere.SBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17771426407793750051noreply@blogger.com