tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post5379278163260086448..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Bexar, Collin probation departments thumb noses at state diversion goalsGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-85272179431089242502010-10-29T10:01:13.593-05:002010-10-29T10:01:13.593-05:00The main reason the probation program fails is tha...The main reason the probation program fails is that islet up to fail .. the probation officers will do anything in there power and somethings out of there power to violate and revoke..It is $ that is what all of this is about.. I have ha 4 different PO's while on my 2 years deferred probation .. Of the 4 1 was fair , 1did not care they were moving on to another job , the. 3rd tried everything she could to revoke me .. She twisted the line of the law , she is no longer there.. The 4th P.O. Has no clue and on our 1st meeting called me a liar on 3 occasions.. Probation is a trap .. Not only do the recently released inmates need policing via probation but the probation officers themselves need even more.. It is border line illegal .. I will be starting a coalition against unfair and unjust behaviour .. Look for it soonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-13572199166780500912009-02-06T20:55:00.000-06:002009-02-06T20:55:00.000-06:008:28, you write, ". I cannot do anything but laugh...8:28, you write, ". I cannot do anything but laugh at GRITS and other people who speak from a place of ignorance," and yet you also write, "I am quite surprised to see the numbers on this site"<BR/><BR/>In other words, you are completely ignorant of the trends in your department, but "cannot do anything but laugh" at the ignorance of others.<BR/><BR/>Pot, meet kettle.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-52086968930365794592009-02-06T20:28:00.000-06:002009-02-06T20:28:00.000-06:00I AM A FORMER COLLIN COUNTY PROBATION OFFICER FROM...I AM A FORMER COLLIN COUNTY PROBATION OFFICER FROM WITHIN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS (during the time covered by these numbers). Collin County has developed and implemented a full Progressive Sanctions plan aimed at addressing technical violations by NUMEROUS means other than revocation. I am quite surprised to see the numbers on this site as the Directors (we had 3 while I was there) on down to the line supervisors all stress following the Progressive Sanctions plan that we basically worked together to create. But the Judges had to approve that sanction plan, and then they, along with the District Attorney's office had to be on board with following it both in sentencing and in choosing how to handle violations. The Director and officers take the heat from people who have no idea how the system works, especially how a COURT really works from behind closed doors, etc. I cannot do anything but laugh at GRITS and other people who speak from a place of ignorance regarding their topic. I don't claim the place was perfect, it has the same problems endemic in all Texas Probation offices (office politics, etc.), but the department is headed mostly by people who have sincerely tried to do their job and do what the state and their grants mandate. The current Director worked his way through the ranks from line officer to Supervisor to Unit Supervisor to where he is now. He was a good Supervisor and he is a good Director. Your brazen arrogance and ignorance is both laughable and pitiful. I would certainly never deign to analyze and criticize and industry I know nothing about, so I don't understand why you do, unless you just like the hear the sound of your own 'voice.' (And just for your reference, I moved on to another department in another area for personal reasons, I have no reason to take up for Collin County other than it is the truth. Also, I did not supervise the population that was covered in this study (high risk felonies) but I have firsthand knowledge of the policies and the caseloads. I was also on the committee that formed the Progressive Sanctions guidelines, and they are the same if not more stringent than some of the large counties you've named with success rates.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-89700075702052303342009-02-02T22:21:00.000-06:002009-02-02T22:21:00.000-06:00Lack of an ACTUAL leader is entirely the problem. ...Lack of an ACTUAL leader is entirely the problem. Little chief Elmer Fudd is really screwy. He hides in his office and let's the "BIATCH" operations director tell him what to do most of the time. 2 years ago she couldn't spell probation, and she still has no idea what she's doing. <BR/>Next they'll promote another harasser to manager. I bet Ms. Garza's settlement on it.....Stay tunedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-64052094039866923542009-01-26T06:49:00.000-06:002009-01-26T06:49:00.000-06:0010:35 asks, "Why is the probation department held ...10:35 asks, "Why is the probation department held responsible for revocations???"<BR/><BR/>Mostly because they applied for and accepted a grant from the state with the stated goal of reducing revocations. Other counties figured out how to do it. <BR/><BR/>As you point out, Bexar has a lot of problems at its CSCD, mostly stemming from poor leadership. My guess is leadership priorities also are at the root of Bexar's failure to reduce revocations.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-31512456509438553112009-01-25T22:35:00.000-06:002009-01-25T22:35:00.000-06:00GRITS and readers!Why is the probation department ...GRITS and readers!<BR/>Why is the probation department held responsibe for revocations???<BR/>Community Supervision Officers are only required to file Violation Reports, even though in Bexar County we are FORCED to file Motions to Revoke. CSO's DO NOT have the power to revoke! Most Bexar County Judges could care less what our recommenations are. ADA's don't know what CJAD wants from CSCD's and they could care less. They're too busy trying to act like TV lawyers, and most are so young they have no clue. "NO CLUE" Just like Bexar CSCD Chief "fitzgerald" and Director of Operations "kline" who have run the department like a NAZI concentration camp! <BR/>It appears to me that the Chief probation officers tell those in Austin that evrything is fine and the LEGE believes the crock of crap!<BR/>Go talk to the people in the trenches and they will overwhelmingly tell you they are underpaid, overworked, treated like CRAP and watch their adminstartors get raises....<BR/>Ask Steve Lara, Sheri Simonelli, Michelle Garza and others at Bexar County CSCD about what is wrong with an organization where the CHIEF is the final authority. What do you do when you're greivance is against him?????<BR/>Yet none of you care and keep blaming those w/o the power to change things!<BR/>That is until the rank and file UNIONIZE and force some change through AUSTIN!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-49264506123450197952009-01-23T17:52:00.000-06:002009-01-23T17:52:00.000-06:00I have become really discouraged about how Texas t...I have become really discouraged about how Texas treats individuals as numbers. If the purpose of the system is to deter, rehabilitate and provide retribution I am at a loss. A family member violated his parole while in Louisiana after a compact deal with Texas. He was unable to adjust and fell victim to a meth addiction. After time served in L.A. he was released. eleven months later and fully recovered, working and paying up child support Texas comes a calling. They failed to send the order to hold for a pick up. He is a great example of rehabilitation./ But he's a number and the justice system in Texas fails us all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-2210854097376704142009-01-23T15:44:00.000-06:002009-01-23T15:44:00.000-06:00Also another point..... if a defendant has a new c...Also another point..... if a defendant has a new charge and also has failures to report on a Motion To Revoke.... the ADA's will procede on the failures to report so they do not have to prove a new charge. Then it is turned into a technical violation revocation instead of a new offense revocation. However if not for the new offense violation a Motion To Revoke would not have been filed!<BR/><BR/>I agree with this statement. I work for a county that did not take diverson funding (although that report shows I did take it for 08-09 and I didn't), mainly because I have a DA's office and one judge who files motions w/o the probation department, and orders MTRs from the bench after what we would normally consider minor techincal violations. I can tell you for a fact that in my county, we use a progressive sanctions policy, refer to 9 different inpatient facilities not including SAFPF or our Recovery Court, but still have high revocation numbers. Sometimes it cannot be helped, so you dont take the funding. <BR/><BR/>If we file a motion, its only because someone absconded or committed a new crime, and still have high numbers. Now I have to figure out why we have such a large number of absconders, and work from there. There is no easy answer to this problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-83741644285399856252009-01-20T00:09:00.000-06:002009-01-20T00:09:00.000-06:00Gtits, I agree with 9:43! Fitzgerald has screwed u...Gtits, I agree with 9:43! Fitzgerald has screwed up Bexar beyond belief!! The officers are all so new they have no idea what the hell is going on. Hey but the chief doesnt have clue either.<BR/><BR/>In all seriousness the officers in Bexar where told they would start working the PSISM model when the caseloads hit 95 cases. This never happened. We all have no idea what Fitzgerald did with the money. He must have eaten it because we never have enough officers and they quit as soon as they hit the door. The even bigger problem than Fitgerald is Kathy Cline, the Deputy Chief. When you have your staff on edge,are nasty to get along with, and have no idea what probation does, then you probably should not be Deputy Chief.<BR/><BR/>When Fitgerald made us all reapply for our jobs he asked us all where we saw our self on the bus. He had this saying from a STUPID BOOK...that you have to have the right people in the right seats on the bus to go from Good to Great!!!<BR/><BR/>Well, he has not done what he preached. All his admin is a joke and have not one leadership skill among them. Then about 50% of the managers were crap officers, swingers or mental cases (no lie). Now look at what we are dealing with.<BR/>There are currently 5 lawsuits against this chief. Really Grits...the money for revocation is nothing to the money the AG will have to put out for this guy. How much does it cost the AG to defend him? <BR/><BR/>Bexar revocation rates are still lower than the other counties. Fitzgerald goes and takes Cline, then and only then you will see Bexar take that money and work it correct. <BR/><BR/>Madden and Whitmire's programs do work and we can do better. As for Bexar we can do better with new leadership!!! Collin County I'm at a lost for what happened there???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-60578216328505487022009-01-19T21:50:00.000-06:002009-01-19T21:50:00.000-06:00If you are interested in starting an UNION, get a ...If you are interested in starting an UNION, get a hold of the United Steelworkers - TEXAS representatives and they will be glad to help you like they did Dallas and Bexar counties.<BR/>It will take each and every one of you to get probation where it needs to be. We can't allow the lege to try and figure it out, they have NO IDEA what CSO's do, except what Chief probation officers tell them. LIARS TELLING LIES TO OTHER LIARS. Public Safety is the screen they all hide behind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-23583781545529238132009-01-19T21:43:00.000-06:002009-01-19T21:43:00.000-06:00GRITS, It is the duty of the Probation officer ONL...GRITS, It is the duty of the Probation officer ONLY to notify the Assistant district Attorney of any violation and it is the ADA's responsibility to file the Motion To Revoke probation or Motion t0 Enter an Adjudication of Guilt on a Deferrred Adjudication case. The CSO's in Bexar County are being forced by the INEPT Chief William "The Fondler" Fitzgerald to type up the MTR's. He and "Her Highness" D.A. Susan Reed continue this practice, even after being confronted. The ADA's in Bexar County won't proceed on a new #1 "arrest" if they can get an easy conviction with an agreement on a "TECHNICAL" violation. The losers are the probation officers who are already overworked, underpaid, retaliated against, quitting in droves AND the probationers who don't receive counseling/help because they are rushed through office visits like cattle at a slaughter house. <BR/>Mr. Henson, I have personally sent you numerous articles on the worthless chief in Bexar County, most of it you have NOT POSTED!! Recently an article from WOAI on a federal Sexual Harassment case, yet no mention and your readers go after the individual officerslike it is their fault. He is so busy licking/carressing toes, making sexually suggestive remarks, retaliating against offcers who stand up for probationers/CSO's rights and getting drunk, that he doesn't have time or the knowledge to fix what he has "SCREWED" up. ALL HIS FAULT!!!!!<BR/>Many posters ask why we are anonymous, tell them Mr. Henson how the Chief and the Illustrious Attorney General attempted to get the Bexar CSO's identities from Google because of your BLOGSITE!! It is not the fault of the majority of probation officers in Bexar County. They would rather have their probationers be successes....That is a WIN-WIN situation no matter what the rest of you think! <BR/>Finally, I dare any of you detractors to go to Bexar and work for that department, I bet you'll be gone in a week. Then those probationers you care about (B.S.) will be the ones who lose. <BR/>Easy to spout off if you've never been there, I HAVE so I can tell you it's HELL for those officers and the probationers!<BR/>FIRE FITZGERALD and get Bexar back on track.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-9566071229096055762009-01-19T08:25:00.000-06:002009-01-19T08:25:00.000-06:00"If you feel offended by having to follow rules ....."If you feel offended by having to follow rules ..."<BR/><BR/>What I notice is that it's Bexar and Collin CSCDs that are offended by having to follow the rules. They were given money to reduce revocations and decided instead to increase them. But I'll guarantee they won't give back the money.<BR/><BR/>The Lege should take away their grants and spend money on departments who appreciate and take advantage of the extra resources. That would match your prescription for probationers, 8:12, right?Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-89792538168417285272009-01-19T08:12:00.000-06:002009-01-19T08:12:00.000-06:00I never said there isn't any innocent people in pr...I never said there isn't any innocent people in prison. You are so absorbed in your own opinion that you are not paying attention to what I am saying. Those criminals on probation or in the system HAVE TO PAY THERE DUES, PERIOD. These is no reason why probation or parole should not be revoked if they break the rules. If somenone does not want to take the help that is being handed to them, practically spoon fed to them then that is their fault, not the supervision officer. If you feel offended by having to follow rules that will make you a better person in society than probation is not for you. It is not a probation/parole officers mission to revoke people, we don't make a commission on how many people go to jail. Our duty is to protect society and once you become the victim of a criminal who was treated like an innocent soul your tune will change, unless you have already been the soul who has reoffended and blames it on the system and not yourself. Face it laws aren't that hard to follow, millions of people follow the law everyday. I am not the creator of the law or the system, I just help enforce the rules to protect the innocent, and give those that have already been through the court system and are sitting in front of me the tools to make it through their probation term. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-43228724780757223112009-01-18T23:42:00.000-06:002009-01-18T23:42:00.000-06:00814....You are part of the problem. It has been pr...814....You are part of the problem. It has been proven, even on this blog, that many have served in prison who were not guilty. YOU assume that everyone who spent time in jail was in deed guilty...but you are wrong. You should not be in a probation position if you mind is so set in mud and you can't give a probationer a fair shot. Resign, or get up to date on reality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-24931163129955728942009-01-18T20:14:00.000-06:002009-01-18T20:14:00.000-06:00I bet you would be fun to supervise, sounds like y...I bet you would be fun to supervise, sounds like you live a life of hell, you don't need anyone to help you out. Sounds like you were on probation for something you claim you didn't do. Many, many people placed on probation by the Courts come in to see their PO for the first time and the first thing out of their mouth is "I didn't do it." You are no different, it's called Poor Me syndrome. Get over, face your faults, get help and move on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-91261594452774739392009-01-18T19:43:00.000-06:002009-01-18T19:43:00.000-06:00You probably have a close relationship with Twinkl...You probably have a close relationship with Twinkle Toes. Have many parolees and probationers have you personally made their lives hell? Many good people are caught up in the system and driven further into criminal behavior by you watch-dogs. If you understood life on the streets or as a normal person, you could help the situation; however most of you are out to force criminals to conform to your own visions of normality, which usually is farfetched from reality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-12004286763972953552009-01-18T14:29:00.000-06:002009-01-18T14:29:00.000-06:001/17/2009 9:13 pm What does the problems for the...1/17/2009 9:13 pm <BR/><BR/>What does the problems for the prisoners being released have to do with probation. If someone would just follow probation conditions which are merely living a life without breaking the law and paying their debt to society by staying clean, paying fees, and doing community service then they would never even go to prison. Or how about just living your life as a law abiding citizen like the rest of us. Probation isn't a game of what officer can revoke more people than another officer. It's all about holding people accountable for THEIR ACTIONS. Giving them a chance to redeem themsleves. If they blow it, not the officers fault, they have free will and freedom of choice, don't blame probation for another's bad choices.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-30161983432273413952009-01-17T21:13:00.000-06:002009-01-17T21:13:00.000-06:00I can't believe that you friggin probation people ...I can't believe that you friggin probation people are so fuc..ed up. How can anyone get ahead with your type running probation. No wonder there are so many problems for released prisoners!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-6595439843536713972009-01-17T11:08:00.000-06:002009-01-17T11:08:00.000-06:00Grits i loved your statment about not accepting a ...Grits i loved your statment about not accepting a comment by an anonymous post but rely on the gospel of "Official State Statistics" (paraphrase). Grits call CJAD and ask them what the CSTS(tracking system) error rate is for these counties claiming these wonderful revocation rates. Ask them if there are any problems with the tracking system and how long they have had problems. Open that can of worms. Also ask CJAD how they calculate the revocation rate. It is a flawed system and needs to be looked into and straightened out. Grits don't buy this crap that CSCDs are putting all these people in prison for missing one report or one payment or submitting one positive ua. it just isn't true and has not been true for years. Are there some judges that have a philosophy of holding probationers strictly accountable? Yes, but you can't blame that on officers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-78651304136650239942009-01-16T20:34:00.000-06:002009-01-16T20:34:00.000-06:00FROM BLOGGER DATED 1/14/2009 3:42 P.M.It has been ...FROM BLOGGER DATED 1/14/2009 3:42 P.M.<BR/><BR/>It has been 2 days since I had addressed all GRITS readers especially those employed in the Criminal Justice System pertaining to the questions about MOTIONS TO REVOKE PROBATION WARRANTS.<BR/><BR/>Do any of you individuals have the BALLS to answer the listed questions.<BR/><BR/>Mr. Henson, I have read your bio many times. You claim to have done research and written articles pertaining to issues involving the Criminal Justice System for many years. Why don't you post my blog as a main story line so that others may get a better understanding of what an ADULT PROBATION OFFICER'S real job duties are especially pertaining to my questions about MOTION TO REVOKE PROBATION WARRANTS.<BR/><BR/>Mr. Henson, before you respond, think twice before you make any comments about me or anyone else being an anonymous blogger. Since you have never been employed by a State agency you don't know what it's like with being faced with losing your job for being outspoken.<BR/><BR/>So, remember most State employed individuals remain anonymous to protect themselves from being RETALIATED against which could result in them being TERMINATED.<BR/><BR/>It is a SHAME especiallly for all those DISTRICT/COUNTY JUDGES and DISTRICT ATTORNEYS or Asst DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S that they have not answered my listed questions.<BR/><BR/>I can't believe no one in the entire State of Texas can answer those questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-22833271553328559912009-01-16T14:59:00.000-06:002009-01-16T14:59:00.000-06:00grits, call travis county and find out what new di...grits, call travis county and find out what new diversion programs they have instituted with their money. If they say Cognitive classes they are lying to you. That predated any grants. Also ask them what the average caselod is. Ask them how many empty caseloads they have and when the last new officer was hired. Do it quickly because they are about do another mass transfer of cases so they can tell CJAD that they have lowered their officer's caseload. <BR/><BR/>And don't let your beliefs and ideology cloud your judgment. I used have your same beliefs. Working probation has just beaten them out of me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-66421416900987491322009-01-16T08:58:00.000-06:002009-01-16T08:58:00.000-06:00Statistics in this case don't lie, so this "polyan...Statistics in this case don't lie, so this "polyanna" who posted yesterday is now wondering why CJAD, TDCJ and the Legislature is not doing what they can do by CJAD standards and withhold funds from those departments that are not meeting specific funding requirements? There is the question for GRITS to pose to CJAD and TDCJ! It's very obvious the department Directors and District Judges are snubbing their noses at CJAD requirements. Anyone who thinks that "Polyanna" type revocation and incarceration of offenders into TDCJ for failure of one drug test should be more than willing to fork over huge amounts of increased taxes and obviously is not in the business of criminal justice, just some "high crime punishment DA type from Georgetown".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-81900229237585494742009-01-15T23:28:00.000-06:002009-01-15T23:28:00.000-06:00The anon bloggers are right on some of Bexar's pro...The anon bloggers are right on some of Bexar's problems. The chief did not pass down the right info or understand the concept. Sept.thru Oct. 2005- they reported lower revocation numbers than normal. Chief was manipulating numbers to make him look better-IMO.<BR/><BR/>The PSISM model was never given to the officers for the officers to even work the program. How many times do the officers from Bexar have to prove that Fitzgerald is lost in space. How long will we have to continue to prove this until our crappy judges get a clue?<BR/><BR/>Grits, the audit is out there that proves it was all leadership. We can get the audit to people who doubt. <BR/><BR/>If you lower your numbers in 2005, fail to involve the ada's, forget to tell the officers and then heck who knows what the judges knew????<BR/><BR/>Read the Audit!!!We can get it to you!!!<BR/><BR/>Also another point..... if a defendant has a new charge and also has failures to report on a Motion To Revoke.... the ADA's will procede on the failures to report so they do not have to prove a new charge. Then it is turned into a technical violation revocation instead of a new offense revocation. However if not for the new offense violation a Motion To Revoke would not have been filed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-1061303498358256302009-01-15T19:07:00.000-06:002009-01-15T19:07:00.000-06:00First those revocation rates are not for one year....First those revocation rates are not for one year. They compared 2005 numbers to 2008 numbers. Read the report it is obvious. The difference between technical and non-technical revocations is key to what the state is trying to do. they are attempting to reduce techincal revocation which are not paying, not reporting, not attending programs, submitting postitive uas, not working, shall i continue? However they lump technical and non-technical revocations together which skews the numbers. Not to mention if a probationer abscondes supervision that is counted as a technical revocation(not reporting). How do you work with someone who does not report? Also those numbers the state relies on comes from the counties that have a stake in having a low revocation number. Fox watching the hen house? My point is do some research and look at this thing a bit closer and you will find it is not as simple as looking at a single revocation rate and then conclude the counties with high revocation rates are not doing their job. It may be the other way around look at the counties claiming these wonderful things and ask the tough questions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-30651178431345553372009-01-15T18:23:00.000-06:002009-01-15T18:23:00.000-06:00If you think the answers to those questions are re...If you think the answers to those questions are relevant to the point at hand, 6:08, by all means enlighten us with your version of reality - with documentation specific to the agencies in question, preferably.<BR/><BR/>The idea that all those additional revocations are for someone "who does not attend a substance abuse program, does not report, does not work,does not pay and submits multiple positive urine tests" is completely ridiculous. If you can document what you say, put up or shut up.<BR/><BR/>Finally, if Bexar and Collin's revocations increased that much in one year, are you claiming the year before they were slackers?<BR/><BR/>I particularly love the advice: Don't believe official statistics, believe an anonymous, unsourced blog commenter instead. Yeah, right.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.com