tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post7006007166198884888..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: 'Borderline Paranoia': Did visions of 'spillover' cause pointless border shooting?Gritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-37085719624003797922011-07-18T11:33:44.816-05:002011-07-18T11:33:44.816-05:00what are the latest developments on this case?what are the latest developments on this case?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-73156182325978480382011-07-17T08:39:25.579-05:002011-07-17T08:39:25.579-05:00DropCrate.com, the numbers from Phoenix are bogus ...DropCrate.com, the numbers from Phoenix are bogus and have been debunked. The statistics were inflated by including hundreds of cases that shouldn't have been labeled kidnappings. See <a href="http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2011-07-07/news/phil-roberts-exaggerated-phoenix-p-d-s-kidnapping-statistics-then-tried-to-debunk-his-own-numbers/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. From that source, quoting an officer who at one point called Phoenix the nation's "Kidnapping Capital": <br /><br />"Statistics continually are shifted and moved around to meet agendas and perpetuate the idea that kidnappings and home invasions required a huge police response with millions of dollars in federal grant money," he wrote in his August 2009 memo to Marquita Beene, an investigator in the city's Equal Opportunity Department. "This, in spite of the fact that the number of 'operational' kidnappings have drastically decreased and the organized home invasion crews seemed to be few and far between."<br /><br />8:12, again, if what you say is true, why do Texas border regions with (proportionally) the most Mexican nationals have less crime than the rest of the state?Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-3117354447780936602011-07-17T00:32:36.276-05:002011-07-17T00:32:36.276-05:00National Geographic ran a show on how Pheonix has ...National Geographic ran a show on how Pheonix has ONE drug related kidnapping everyday! Most of the victims are innocent relatives of people and drug smugglers according to Nat Geo. It's so bad that Pheonix has a crime dept to handle just these types of cases. <br /><br />How can you say that people are over reacting?DropCrate.comhttp://Dropcrate.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-24053249765273318282011-07-15T20:12:04.602-05:002011-07-15T20:12:04.602-05:00I don't really think the spill over is what ev...I don't really think the spill over is what everyone thinks it is.<br /><br />The real "spill over" is the fact that millions of people come across the border who have a fundamental misunderstanding of United States law and culture.<br /><br />No, it is not okay to sleep with girls that are younger than 15 here.<br /><br />No, it is not okay to beat your wife into submission.<br /><br />No, it is not okay to solve your differences with a stabbing.<br /><br />No, it is not okay to drink until you can't walk and then get into your vehicle and drive.<br /><br />No, it is not okay to get into an accident and flee the scene.<br /><br />All of these things appear to be culturally ingrained in Mexican society. Oddly enough, Anglo settlers performed plenty of these "offenses" just one hundred short years ago (substitute vehicle with horse and carriage). However we gave up our medieval ways....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-925555434295360172011-07-15T17:32:08.249-05:002011-07-15T17:32:08.249-05:00"The only reason El Paso is safe is due to th..."The only reason El Paso is safe is due to these thousands of officers."<br /><br />2nd Generation LEO, then why is Laredo safe? or Del Rio? All the way down the river, the border region is safer than other parts of the state.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-72774070846394087592011-07-15T17:24:13.880-05:002011-07-15T17:24:13.880-05:00Only when we have a secure border along with lega...Only when we have a secure border along with legalized marijuana will this country be safe. <br /><br />BTW using El Paso as an example of the lack of spill-over violence just proves the point of what is needed on the border. El Paso is home to thousands of ICE and BP agents, State Police and Local Police. It is also home to JOIC (joint operations information center) and other law enforcement centers. The only reason El Paso is safe is due to these thousands of officers.<br /><br />The same can not be said for towns east of El Paso espcially the valley communities were river crossings occur as frequently as cars going through the drive through window at McDonalds.<br /><br />However the left wing media and politicians do not want to publish the facts of just how much dope and illegals cross our border everyday. While the right wingers of big buisness want cheap labor.<br /><br />I find it funny and upsetting at the sametime how this Country can put people on the moon, win the Cold War, and defeat every other nation on Earth, but it can not and will not secure it's own Border.<br /><br />Just like the Roman Empire could not secure its border we too will fall if we do not secure ours. <br /><br />Signed<br />Second Generation LEO<br /><br />PS: Keep up the good work Grits, while we do not agree all the time I do find you blog very interesting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-81219113296422694032011-07-15T16:47:54.542-05:002011-07-15T16:47:54.542-05:00Facts is what is needed and anonymous @ 10:17 and ...Facts is what is needed and anonymous @ 10:17 and Grits you both need them. I am not trying to be argumentative I just think we need to look at the facts.<br /><br />Fact: Fast and Furious started under Pres. GW Bush, was adopted and intensified under Pres. Obama however we don't know factually if Obama authorized letting guns walk. Fast forward the program and now it's also operational under the name Gun Walker.<br /><br />What's clear: We have two dead LE officers from Border Patrol and ICE and hundreds if not thousands of dead Mexicans by 2000 weapons that were 'walked' into Mexico. Sen. Grassley and Issa have held initial hearings and BATF agents spoke clearly under oath that they were told they could not arrest straw purchasers of these weapons which then 'walked' into Mexico. We further find out this was coordinated by BATFE and DOJ and while gun dealers constantly told BATFE of these straw purchasers they were told to allow them purchase the weapons, this is proven by written communications and even video.<br /><br />We also know that AG Holder has attempted to cover up when he knew about the program and it appears that this will eventually lead to the White House but it's not a fact as of yet.<br /><br />There is now questions being asked by Florida Congressman Bilirakis inquiring if weapons were provided to Honduras and gang MS13 under Operation Castaway.<br /><br />This story overall story is HUGE and in my opinion it is bigger than Iran-Contra, Watergate, etc. In order to inform yourselves more about this subject I would recommend reading David Codreas website along with Mike Vanderboegh website Sipsey Stret Irregulars as they originally broke this whole story along with CleanUpATF.org<br /><br /><br />http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/a-journalist-s-guide-to-project-gunwalker-part-four?CID=examiner_alerts_article <br /><br />http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-5194754959689811072011-07-15T15:16:18.634-05:002011-07-15T15:16:18.634-05:00I couldn't agree more, 12:09. I don't thin...I couldn't agree more, 12:09. I don't think most people in this country have any appreciation for how bad the problem of spillover cartel violence is becoming. El Paso is hardly a good example due to the large contingent of local, state and federal law enforcement officials in or near that community. In the more remote areas along the border downstream, it's becoming the Wild, Wild West all over again!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-83954243157403281762011-07-15T12:09:28.423-05:002011-07-15T12:09:28.423-05:00Why don't you move to one of the towns on the ...Why don't you move to one of the towns on the border and find out for yourself? I bet if you visit with some folks who live down there (not in El Paso) you might get a different version of what spillover means.<br /><br />The only way to stop that violence would to invade the northern part of that cesspool of corruption known as Mexico and impose martial law.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-39344105620773529892011-07-15T10:52:42.047-05:002011-07-15T10:52:42.047-05:0010:17, I notice you say so anonymously. What a bra...10:17, I notice you say so anonymously. What a brave one you are! Would you prefer the Obama Administration abstained from running sting operations? There's always a risk in such matters something will go wrong. Despite the bungled result, I was actually glad to learn they were looking to trace guns upstream - for years they've been satisfied with arresting mules and pretending they're accomplishing something.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-71115401986701849062011-07-15T10:17:38.641-05:002011-07-15T10:17:38.641-05:00Well if Obama wasn't sending guns to the Mexic...Well if Obama wasn't sending guns to the Mexican Drug Cartels, but since he did I can say for a fact President Obama is a COP KILLER!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com