tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post7020175284585392647..comments2024-03-15T05:45:01.402-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Battered escapee was TYC alumGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-40411450624281597982009-11-17T23:19:39.784-06:002009-11-17T23:19:39.784-06:00BTW: That was not TYC's decision. That came a...BTW: That was not TYC's decision. That came about as a result of a ruling from the AG.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-84608267153048763222009-11-17T23:18:51.234-06:002009-11-17T23:18:51.234-06:00Wrong - the 19-20 year olds in TYC at the effectiv...Wrong - the 19-20 year olds in TYC at the effective time of SB103 were grandfathered. The same thing happened in the '90's when they changed the law on sentenced offenders. Those who were already in TYC were handled under the old rules.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-44065211132536797912009-10-16T13:17:11.917-05:002009-10-16T13:17:11.917-05:00What about the 400 or so over 19 in TYCs care and ...What about the 400 or so over 19 in TYCs care and custody? The determinate sentenced offenders get special license to stay in TYC! The courts just know to give them a timed sentence instead of letting TYC set the length of stay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-86613570835211565022009-10-01T23:27:30.424-05:002009-10-01T23:27:30.424-05:00I'm surprised nobody by now has mentioned that...I'm surprised nobody by now has mentioned that TYC does by SB103 now separate old kids from younger ones.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-28121233755039250282009-10-01T18:23:00.116-05:002009-10-01T18:23:00.116-05:00Gosh, what about the 5 murders that recently rele...Gosh, what about the 5 murders that recently released TYC youth have committed around the state in in the last week???!!!! This includes the teacher that was murder in his classroom in Tyler! Yeah I really feel sorry for these poor "choir boys" and the CoNextions program (the new resocialization program) is really working, right? I have soooo much faith in the Sunset Com. WHATEVER!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-39247583694751569782009-10-01T18:01:58.709-05:002009-10-01T18:01:58.709-05:00Kids in TYC were a lot safer than in prison. They ...Kids in TYC were a lot safer than in prison. They might get punched a few times, but that is almost impossible to stop. The perp used to get put on a BMP and kept off the dorm for 30 to 90 days. Now the most they can be held is 14 and most of them are given a Level hearing and they lose their priveleges for up to 30 days. They have to be given due process to take away their TV! They can't lose their Stage and very rarely is their release date extended. So TYC gets less safe by the day. There have been and probably still are scared/frustrated staff that use kids as enforcers to beat up the smaller problem makers. The more ineffective the system the more this will occur, if the staff feels that quitting isn't an option for whatever financial reasons. The other response by staff for self preservation is to not see or hear rule violations that if they confront them the staff could end up making a trip to the hospital, which is getting much more frequent.RASnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-65730759021259214122009-10-01T09:02:25.014-05:002009-10-01T09:02:25.014-05:00I am not sure what to say about all of this... I m...I am not sure what to say about all of this... I mean it really hurts to see a TYC brother beat so bad. I have to say that if ever being victimized you have the right to run. I mean who can take someones safety away. Now before you come back with these people to safety away from the streets. Know that they are serving there time for that. I just know that I have seen people in both TDCJ and TYC come out looking worse then that in photos. I dont claim to have the answer but I wish I did. Because I will never forget the day I got to Giddings and was on dorm 9 and watched as a 12 year old boy was raped anully and orally by two older boys. The gaurds just standing by watching. But then to see the same type of thing in TDCJ. But this time more people invovled. Prison no matter where it is TYC or TDCJ or county is everyman for themselves. But what most people dont understand is that an inmate has to blaence three sets of law. socities, imate, instatution.... I pray for you all...<br /><br />respectfully,<br /><br />concernedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-60886552138512256062009-09-29T22:44:54.062-05:002009-09-29T22:44:54.062-05:00A clearly fuzzy cluster fuck.A clearly fuzzy cluster fuck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-91261174592153481332009-09-29T15:39:25.019-05:002009-09-29T15:39:25.019-05:00Anonymous 9/25/2009 09:11:00 PM are you talking ...Anonymous 9/25/2009 09:11:00 PM are you talking about kitchen ladies or matrons? The way I’ve seen some of the woman at today’s tyc dress it’s a wonder tyc don’t have a lot more prison rapes. I didn’t see any inmate on inmate rapes because that was frowned upon by most inmates. We fought all the time every day but didn’t rape each other. Fighting was entertainment for the dorm men. Some time guys would act like they were going to rape some fish but it was just to see if they would stay on the dorm or be segregated to the punk dorm. I heard it use to go on all the time in the black schools but when they desegregated, the white and spanish boys didn’t really put up with that animal crap. The dorm men use to talk about it all the time, how the black boys got more civilized with desegregation. The black boys were the most uncivilized predatory group of the three cultures, hell they even victimized each other. When my crew saw a white kid come into the school and he appeared as though he would become a victim to the blacks we protected him. The spanish boys did the same for their own as well. Not trying to be racist it’s just how the cultures broke down. We were just doing time and most of us wanted to get out. <br />Now Anonymous 9/25/2009 09:11:00 PM I hope I’m not being gullible by providing a straight answer to your question. I do have some cool stories, gatesville.blogspot.com. I think some other poster listed a gay website if that’s what you’re looking for. This is a tyc posting after all, so I’m making this disclaimer. <br />Today’s tyc dorm personnel present themselves as being punked out from their working conditions and with pedophilia being an employee benefit, and the likes. The dorm men from my day would bitch slap most of you tyc people for being sissy’s. On the other hand I have met some really great tyc staff that the giants whose shoulders you stand on would be proud.<br /><br />Bottom line, legislative bs to the side, Barns is just another victim of the 120 year old prison cultures 87% recidivism rate. 2001 till 2006 says alot, y'all fcked him up. Or as tys would have it Barns is another prison prep school success story.<br /><br />Sheldon tyc#47333 c/s<br />13%erAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-91577377085512836292009-09-29T10:27:44.841-05:002009-09-29T10:27:44.841-05:00Some other facts to consider. Twice he escaped fr...Some other facts to consider. Twice he escaped from Potter County custody at 19 years of age, before he was sent to TDCJ. Once, he escaped from the courtroom during a hearing before being recaptured a few days later. A couple of months after that, he escapted from the Potter County jail while awating trial on his multiple burglary, aggravated assualt and escape charges.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-42419613942926741432009-09-27T22:16:03.316-05:002009-09-27T22:16:03.316-05:00I think we can say your depiction is off base cons...I think we can say your depiction is off base considering a TYC employee of "long term status" voiced this concern.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-11416731397213943122009-09-27T13:41:38.048-05:002009-09-27T13:41:38.048-05:00Can you now deny that this ex-TYC youth was not &q...Can you now deny that this ex-TYC youth was not "Raped by The State"? If not bad enough abuses in TYC, move them into the adult system so they can be abused even more. Perhaps the kid deserved it; some will say.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-75861475096697766752009-09-26T19:13:31.465-05:002009-09-26T19:13:31.465-05:00Anonymous said...
"Boyness"
We...Anonymous said...<br /><br /> "Boyness"<br /><br /> Welcome to Boyness. Everything and anything that is hot, steamy, sexual and passionate about gay boys.<br /><br /> ORLY? Damn, sounds like you might just wanna go ahead and have a seat right over there... Mr. Hanson will be right with you and THEN you can see things from the "inside out" in the TDCJ ;)<br /><br /> 9/26/2009 06:48:00 PM<br />---------------------------------<br />Hide behind your anonymous shroud COWARD!Hook Em Hornshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660612847019528535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-77760254602136150702009-09-26T18:53:56.862-05:002009-09-26T18:53:56.862-05:00That's the problem with TDCJ. I mean, what kin...That's the problem with TDCJ. I mean, what kind of post is that? We have some serious culture problems with employees in TDCJ if in fact that's a CO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-12739212223400494772009-09-26T18:48:55.400-05:002009-09-26T18:48:55.400-05:00"Boyness"
Welcome to Boyness. Everythin..."Boyness"<br /><br />Welcome to Boyness. Everything and anything that is hot, steamy, sexual and passionate about gay boys.<br /><br />ORLY? Damn, sounds like you might just wanna go ahead and have a seat right over there... Mr. Hanson will be right with you and THEN you can see things from the "inside out" in the TDCJ ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-80097042522413738482009-09-26T18:19:16.149-05:002009-09-26T18:19:16.149-05:00Grits,
This kid committed his crime in the commun...Grits,<br /><br />This kid committed his crime in the community just before SB103 passed. He was convicted of those crimes on 04/29/08 according to the TDCJ offender search database that can be found at their website. He wouldn't have been sent back to TYC as a recommitment because SB103 was in place and Barnes was already 19. So yes - SB103 did prevent this kid from a TYC recommitment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-73276592082468389542009-09-26T18:12:35.198-05:002009-09-26T18:12:35.198-05:00Have you folks heard about the kid that killed the...Have you folks heard about the kid that killed the teacher in Tyler?<br /><br />He was recently discharged from TYC due to his mental health.<br /><br />I think the state dropped the ball on this one as well....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-13088188069590597232009-09-25T21:11:44.919-05:002009-09-25T21:11:44.919-05:00Sheldon, you've got some cool stories, I'm...Sheldon, you've got some cool stories, I'm hoping one day you'll open up and talk about whether you saw any prison rape.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-79494697578510211782009-09-25T17:23:19.470-05:002009-09-25T17:23:19.470-05:00Back in the day the boys were separated out by age...Back in the day the boys were separated out by age and just before my time by race as well. The tyc aged us out just before our 18th birthday. Heres how it went down if you committed a prison offence crime in the late 70’s, I aged out of tyc in 9/21/1977. If you were between the ages of 17 and about 23 and had not been to tyc, Gatesville in particular, you went to Fergusson farm. It was called the gladiator farm and rightfully so. There were some exceptions like Bob Hays OBM. If you had been to tyc you would most likely go to Clemens farm down in Brazoria county. The idea was not to mix the first offenders with those offenders who already had a similar cultural experiance in tyc.<br /><br />Before Morales v Turman the Hilltop school at Gatesville housed predominately white/spanish offenders from 17 to 21 while Live Oak housed predominately black offenders from 17 to 21. Sycamore was a predominately white/spanish high school while Terrace was predominately black high school. Hackberry was a predominately white/spanish jr high school while Riverside was a predominately black jr high school. Valley was for the younger kids and Mountain View was for the boys whom the staff at the Gatesville schools couldn’t handle as well as some violent offenders. <br /><br />Prof Bush makes good points about the state continues to ignore many important history lessons. <br /><br />RAS, your post makes good since. Legislators and tyc management can learn a lot from its people 'in the trenches' on how to better manage these kids in custody and what would work to re-socialize them back into the world.<br /><br />Sheldon tyc#47333 c/sAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-30589850023150757462009-09-25T13:31:18.378-05:002009-09-25T13:31:18.378-05:00An extra year of Resocioalization could save an ex...An extra year of Resocioalization could save an extra 5 to 10 in TDCJ. What is the net expense to that? What are the chances of someone recommitting after a few years in TDCJ as a teenager; where Raped By The State takes a much more literal meaning, turning out a much colder, bitter person desiring revenge on society. If he is too scared to risk going back what are the chances of his children ending up incarcerated due to his alcohol, crack, or pain killer problems.The old system worked pretty well, it could be improved of course. Reducing staff turnover so you keep the good ones and keep them motivated, having varying programs on different dorms for different behaviors, having some kind of outside watchdog to keep management straight, maximize family involvement and maybe this kid could have been sent back to his family. If Pyote is closed the El Paso parents will have to travel 5 or 6 hundred miles each way to see their kids. Each trip will cost them 2 or 3 hundred dollars and probably a lost day of work.RASnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-67477589017314542512009-09-25T12:59:52.219-05:002009-09-25T12:59:52.219-05:00If you people knew the facts of this incident it p...If you people knew the facts of this incident it possibly wouldn't be posted on this blog. Stay tuned for the Final Report (after months of investigation of course!).<br /><br />Retired 2004Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-52902406628073571012009-09-25T12:20:06.676-05:002009-09-25T12:20:06.676-05:00TDCJ has an obligation to protect offenders from b...TDCJ has an obligation to protect offenders from being abused. Looks like we have a problem here, what else is new?Hook Em Hornshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660612847019528535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-4045972599501966742009-09-25T12:17:39.138-05:002009-09-25T12:17:39.138-05:00Sunray you've just proved my point, 19-21 year...Sunray you've just proved my point, 19-21 year olds often could be "likely victims" in an adult institution. <br /><br /><br />The main thing is I just object to the high cost of TYC vs. adult institutions. Not sure where all that money goes. The other annoying point is the very labelling of anyone over 18 as a "youth"PirateFriedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14490889950268741305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-20780620187635327642009-09-25T12:13:41.729-05:002009-09-25T12:13:41.729-05:00Pirate ~ you know, every inmate in TYC and TDCJ ha...Pirate ~ you know, every inmate in TYC and TDCJ has the capability of being a "likely victim" as well as a "likely predator", and it is not always so clear cut which group an inmate will be in at any one time. Trying to separate them by that criteria alone will be almost impossible.<br /><br />What is not quite so impossible is creating transition units for youths aged between 18 and 21. It is also not impossible to change the law so that children do not receive definite sentences. Reassess children placed in TYC in the year before they are due to be 18, and decide then whether they are still the same person who committed the crime they are serving time for (which for some will have been at age 11. Tell me any youngsters you know who are the same at 18 as they were at 11).<br /><br />Those who are still a danger to themselves and others should move to the trasition units, and those who are no danger to anyone should be paroled. Stop the conveyer belt into TDCJ and there might also be a drop in the prison population too.sunray's wenchhttp://silvaculture.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-14600100060267552022009-09-25T11:37:11.654-05:002009-09-25T11:37:11.654-05:00TYC allowed these youth to be beaten, which caused...TYC allowed these youth to be beaten, which caused the problem in the first place. Youth need to be segregated by age groups. Administrators are the problem for allowing bad policy and allowing abuse by employees - "Raped by The State".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com