tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post8145806127847081654..comments2024-03-15T05:45:01.402-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: What does it take to get a bad cop fired in civil service cities?Gritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-65341285822267460452013-06-30T08:21:00.515-05:002013-06-30T08:21:00.515-05:00There is a Revolution coming! Us against them (Ba...There is a Revolution coming! Us against them (Bad cops and Government).<br /><br />BTW, TX State Trooper David Riggs (the former scourge of Wise County)has moved on the be a Flying State Trooper in McAllen. Harassing those along the border.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-89243785919933428402010-07-17T12:41:52.990-05:002010-07-17T12:41:52.990-05:00Hear, hear Rusty. I couldn't agree more. Say h...Hear, hear Rusty. I couldn't agree more. Say hi John Redcorn for me.Charlie Onoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-83101309873109856032010-07-16T07:09:18.760-05:002010-07-16T07:09:18.760-05:00He probably does feel better, 4:46. I reckon cops ...He probably does feel better, 4:46. I reckon cops wouldn't be half so arrogant if everyone was armed. Guys like this little turd cop seem to me to be that kid who got his ass whooped in high school for being the creepy little shite he obviously is, how could you possibly defend his actions? This "cops are right, civilians are wrong" kind of attitude is one of the main reasons civvies distrust cops. Keep it up, and you'll find out how hard it is to police a society when everyone won't even speak to le. We are policed BY CONSENT, piss off enough of us and we'll change the rules on you, and you and your ilk will be out on your ass. Can't wait, personally.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-218561552640928332010-07-15T16:46:16.916-05:002010-07-15T16:46:16.916-05:00Now you've made your weekly cojones comment. ...Now you've made your weekly cojones comment. Feel better?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-53613583940820309982010-07-15T14:49:34.814-05:002010-07-15T14:49:34.814-05:00I would still contact them Rage. That documents m...I would still contact them Rage. That documents my file that even though I tried to terminate his employment and was overturned that I'm trying to do all that I can to manage the department's risk where this officer is concerned.<br /><br />If they don't want to come in, ok. It keeps you from asking me why I didn't try to do more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-44472398880544035982010-07-15T13:05:16.227-05:002010-07-15T13:05:16.227-05:0010:58, people are allowed to have opinions about a...10:58, people are allowed to have opinions about articles they read in the newspaper. And when someone pointed out information I hadn't seen, I admitted my error and corrected the story, though the clarification doesn't change my overall take on the incident. At least I've got the cojones when I make mistakes to do so under my own name. Who are you?<br /><br />Also, if a civilian had shoved that fat tub of lard in an identical fashion and he'd fallen down, what charges do you suppose would be filed against the person? It'd sure be more than a 15-day suspension at work.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-68125839216864820422010-07-15T11:45:27.868-05:002010-07-15T11:45:27.868-05:00Watching the video I believe that the cop should b...Watching the video I believe that the cop should be removed from the streets of Texas one way or another. This cop is a danger to all citizens! <br /><br />Good thing Texans carry guns, cuz I'd sure use mine on him in a heartbeat!<br /><br />Does this cop have children? Maybe a baton shoved at them would be ok? How about that arbitrator, he have kids?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-34486794391363768472010-07-15T11:14:36.592-05:002010-07-15T11:14:36.592-05:00If I were the chief, I would at the least contact ...<i>If I were the chief, I would at the least contact the FBI to see if they would open a civil rights investigation and contact the grand jury foreman for grand jury investigation.</i> <br /><br />The police chief has no standing to assert the civil rights of the victim.<br /><br />And if the victim asserts them, the city will pay for the damages. So that will never be encouraged by the city, or any of their employees.<br /><br />RageAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-65078609448971843792010-07-15T11:07:21.697-05:002010-07-15T11:07:21.697-05:00A similar situation to the top TYC people that cov...A similar situation to the top TYC people that covered up the youth abuse. Some were shuffled around and hidden even more and none were ever held accountable for the downfall of the state agency.Many should have done jail time but their protectors prevented any real justice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-71328003976488977492010-07-15T11:07:13.427-05:002010-07-15T11:07:13.427-05:00"This officer used his baton unnecessarily ag..."This officer used his baton unnecessarily against a woman who didn't threaten him, according to his supervisors, and his actions in the previous incident brought national disgrace to the department."<br /><br />The video is very compelling and I agree. I would not want this guy for a partner or be put in situation where I would have to provide his backup since he no doubt escalated this situation.<br /><br />If I were the chief, I would at the least contact the FBI to see if they would open a civil rights investigation and contact the grand jury foreman for grand jury investigation. <br /> <br /><br />Retired LEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-54110301219006880572010-07-15T10:58:27.272-05:002010-07-15T10:58:27.272-05:00Now I get it. It is okay to rant about something ...Now I get it. It is okay to rant about something without checking the facts if you base your thinking or hearsay. Cool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-69674559057301850802010-07-15T10:42:55.160-05:002010-07-15T10:42:55.160-05:00Okay, just watched the video. Don't know why y...Okay, just watched the video. Don't know why you say he pushed her "not all that hard." The fat bastard knocked her clean off her feet, and in an absurdly cavalier fashion.<br /><br />He didn't hit her with the asp but he brandished it menacingly, engaged in unprovoked violence, and of course we don't know what happened off camera.<br /><br />A police chief should be allowed to make the call that such behavior is unbecoming of an officer. In civil service cities, they can't.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-12082949815157063072010-07-15T10:35:05.926-05:002010-07-15T10:35:05.926-05:00Thanks Nick, I hadn't seen the video and will ...Thanks Nick, I hadn't seen the video and will take a look.<br /><br />As for 10:18's who thinks "This is exactly why bloggers can’t be taken seriously" ... is that because I took the police chief at his word? Hmmmmm. Should I assume he's lying?Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-32036028603069322402010-07-15T10:18:22.507-05:002010-07-15T10:18:22.507-05:00This is exactly why bloggers can’t be taken seriou...This is exactly why bloggers can’t be taken seriously. They look at a news headline and assume facts not in evidence. Do a little research instead of trying to incite a crowd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-36221456718056777952010-07-15T08:42:32.308-05:002010-07-15T08:42:32.308-05:00I'm going on the video of the encounter that I...I'm going on the video of the encounter that I have seen played along with the news story. His insubordination and lying about it were more likely the reason he was fired. I'm not saying that this guy should be reinstated by any measure, but he didn't just hop out of the squad car and start whackin this girl with his asp or anything. <br />http://www.newstreamz.com/wp-content/uploads/COBAN-MVR-Video-of-Paul-Stephens-Use-of-Force-Video-8-18-09.mpgNickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01450052694174726362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-74304302675707299312010-07-15T07:50:02.791-05:002010-07-15T07:50:02.791-05:00Anyone heard about this one?
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TX DPS Trooper ...Anyone heard about this one?<br />****<br /><br />TX DPS Trooper - DAVID RIGGS - Wise County - Decatur (Decatur)<br /><br />How many of you have had the misfortune to have encountered Trooper David Riggs in his official capacity? Meaning - an illegal traffic stop, illegal search and seizure, violation of your civil rights, solicitation of sex-drugs-or money, etc.? <br /><br />If so, we would like to hear and document (Confidentially) your event for our database. <br /><br />Unprofessional behavior and unlawful practices will not be tolerated?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-86471534035847274402010-07-15T07:05:49.470-05:002010-07-15T07:05:49.470-05:00Nick, the Chief says "that Stephens used his ...Nick, the Chief says "that Stephens used his baton unnecessarily against a woman who was not a threat to him." Where do you get the info that he only "pushed" her and didn't use the baton?Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-47852569353939583222010-07-14T20:55:43.081-05:002010-07-14T20:55:43.081-05:00to be fair, the dude was in the middle of a bunch ...to be fair, the dude was in the middle of a bunch of people on the square and he pushed her, not all that hard either, and she tripped over a curb or planter or something similar on the ground. He didn't use his baton on her. Not really a fireable offense.<br />BUT when you see that this guy has a history of being a bonehead, then yea, get rid of him.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01450052694174726362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-58375331488392657462010-07-14T18:00:30.088-05:002010-07-14T18:00:30.088-05:00He needs to do hard time. Penalties for cops shoul...He needs to do hard time. Penalties for cops should be much stiffer than penalties for Joe Shmoe. 2:41 is also correct, the blue wall needs to be torn down, you guys need to police yourselves with great fervor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-54737214035645817872010-07-14T17:04:37.035-05:002010-07-14T17:04:37.035-05:00hey the economy is bad, lay him off due to 'do...hey the economy is bad, lay him off due to 'downsizing'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-298237496531932662010-07-14T16:42:04.058-05:002010-07-14T16:42:04.058-05:00anyone else not surprised?
-Greganyone else not surprised?<br /><br /><br />-GregAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-5023203839803008372010-07-14T15:24:43.776-05:002010-07-14T15:24:43.776-05:00Tell you what's going to suck big time if it&#...Tell you what's going to suck big time if it's passed. God help us all!<br /><br />Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act (H.R. 413)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-20828090601532472472010-07-14T15:07:03.490-05:002010-07-14T15:07:03.490-05:00No Donald, I don't have enough information to ...No Donald, I don't have enough information to judge the merits of the arbitrator's decision. My concern is the fact that in civil service cities police administrators have lost control of their departments and it's difficult bordering on impossible to fire bad cops.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-66360155953512849762010-07-14T14:41:48.805-05:002010-07-14T14:41:48.805-05:00Old Cop said...
Some of these kind of problem...Old Cop said...<br /><br /> Some of these kind of problems can be solved by an honest, diligent prosecutor and/or the local Grand Jury....Perjury, False Report to a Peace Officer, Official Oppression, Assault, to name a few possibilities.<br /><br /><br />Maybe you need to start from within? The code of silence seems to still be popular with police.<br /><br />You very rarely read any stories in the U.S. of cops turning in other cops for abuse, brutality or crimes being broken.<br /><br />Those rare occasions when the police are caught doing something wrong, the police department never has a problem letting the officer resign and then sweeping it all under the rug.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-36294732759399175102010-07-14T14:19:57.765-05:002010-07-14T14:19:57.765-05:00It seems to me that your objection goes to the mer...It seems to me that your objection goes to the merits of the arbitrator's decision, not the merits of the civil service laws.<br /><br />Judges sometimes make decisions that you or I think are unwise or just plain wrong. That's not a reason to dispense with courts.Don Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04216181226322913663noreply@blogger.com