tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post1108137068086584500..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: A "perverse" position on prosecutors fabricating evidence ... by the Obama AdministrationGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-44830816626888219282012-05-21T00:36:16.881-05:002012-05-21T00:36:16.881-05:00Its a friggen witch hunt just like with Clinton. W...Its a friggen witch hunt just like with Clinton. What I can't believe is that people are falling for the unethical foolishness by the GOP.<br /><br />Just think of the things they could be spending time on and implementing some real positive things with the economy. (not saying they would just maybe could) But nooooooooooooo, they focus on winning winning winning election. Truth be told, they just can't handle losinhg. Its like wer are dealingt wiith teenagers. GROW UP GOP. The whole ting sickens me. The old white manys\ club will become obsolute because it's us mutts that are the majority to the tode is shifting. cant take losing and that is so childess is almost loaughble but it most definatly no a joke, come on GOP pull it togeter stop acting to kids and get to work. Work o the ecomomy, Its like a long draging sop opera.<br />Wenderswendershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02305768650318927814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-86770632929800477272009-11-12T15:46:58.757-06:002009-11-12T15:46:58.757-06:00I would suggest that prosecutors should be respons...I would suggest that prosecutors should be responsible for verifying information gathered during an investigation. This would be similar to company CEOs making sure that financial statements are true regardless whether they are directly responsible for "cooking the books" or if it is done by his underlings. <br /><br />Somebody has to be responsible for verifying that information is true.Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18197370675477100853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-72185069903251036682009-11-10T12:36:12.030-06:002009-11-10T12:36:12.030-06:00Hey everybody,
I'm surprised to see that this ...Hey everybody,<br />I'm surprised to see that this Post has only 14 comments so far. The following is wordy but it goes to show you that this topic goes back decades and still no remedy for professional corruption. This topic should have pulled in some "former and or career" prosecutors by now. I would love to hear: what the "King of Nolo Contendere” has to say.<br /><br />The book, "The Griffith Files - 1984 & Beyond) depicts how the "King" got away with indicting people that didn't represent the original eyewitness description. To the readers dismay you'll see that after the victim viewed a Show-Up, HPD allowed him to change his descriptions but still not of those he just observed that supposedly used a .22 or .25 black revolver w/ two inch barrel. "Incident Report" shows HPD called "Intake" & charges were filed anyway. <br /><br />Now enter the "King", on trial day he displayed a big black revolver w/ six-inch barrel in front of the jury. My paid attorney said it must be there to show what kind of gun was used right before he "tapped out" & plea bargained me away, due to being on probation.<br /><br />The book points out that FOI acts allowed for the purchase of case files showing the "King" created "two" State's Exhibits docs. dated seven yrs. apart. The 1984 one lists a .38 cal. Rohm as # 2. The 1991 doc. list a "Judgment" as # 2 with # 2A being Photo of Gun. I know, a crap load of #2's. Would it be safe to say that since there are no other records of the firearm (chain of custody-where it came from & where it went to) & that no charges and or sentence was given for being in possession of a firearm while on probation, that he "himself" fabricated evidence? <br /><br />Combine this with the list of names that knew it didn't belong but looked away and one asks does this make them "in on it"? Certified doc. on Harris County letterhead shows his pal the exhibit clerk saying she "personally" destroyed it in 95 & didn't need any stinkin documents to show how and where it was destroyed. I consider these people has the "263rd Gang from Hell” due to their obvious knowingly & willingly contribution. <br /><br />The FBI, ATF, HC Sheriff, HPD and State Archives have replied they have no records and or clues. The "King was first asked about it in 1998 and again this year, responding with I don't remember. Well, that's not good enough. Names, dates and events are laid out in the book, so they'll have no opportunity to forget. <br /><br />"PROJECT: Not Guilty" was created to allow the public at large to name names backed up with reports, mug-shots, case files, etc. The "King" and those that enjoy immunity today will hopefully have to explain to their families & friends why it was so important to fabricate. It's hoped that they never get a good nights sleep after they fabricate their answers. <br /><br />Read the book, get in on the "project" or just (blogaboutit-overhe). Better off, let's all fire off some letters and make some calls to voice disgust in this matter. Thanks to Grits for getting the ball rolling.NoMoreNoloContenderenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-89497998706865550422009-11-09T16:06:47.723-06:002009-11-09T16:06:47.723-06:00Obama just being clever. Just read his operating t...Obama just being clever. Just read his operating text, Rules for Radicals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-51331985420055395212009-11-08T13:27:31.654-06:002009-11-08T13:27:31.654-06:00No, its not a political issue anymore than Govern...No, its not a political issue anymore than Governor Perry shutting down the Willingham commission is. Excuse me while I go spank myself!Hook Em Hornshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660612847019528535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-92196340397440357302009-11-08T11:04:41.842-06:002009-11-08T11:04:41.842-06:00What the prosecutors seem to be missing in this is...What the prosecutors seem to be missing in this is they can stay out of trouble and fulfill their oaths by simply disclosing everything to the defense, telling the truth, and let the jury sort it out. Its really that simple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-84774799477213361862009-11-07T14:38:48.614-06:002009-11-07T14:38:48.614-06:00Well, actually, the prosecutor was technically cor...Well, actually, the prosecutor was technically correct - there was no Fifth Amendment due process violation - just an humongous Fourteenth Amendment due process violation (the difference being, the 5th applies to the Federal Government and the Fourteenth to the States). I guess these prosecutors really are unfamiliar with the constitution ... a first year law student should know better than this.Cassandranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-65071681552090292202009-11-07T12:14:42.058-06:002009-11-07T12:14:42.058-06:00This is not a Democrat or Republican issue, so get...This is not a Democrat or Republican issue, so get off your high horses! <br /><br />This is an issue of someone being convicted on the words of a DA who only wants to win a case and not the facts. This issue should be approved, some DAs only want to win and do not consider the consequences of what their selfish winning attitudes take on a person's life, if truly innocent, and the lives of children, parents and siblings. Therefore, they should be santioned or whatever if they willingly use unproven information.<br /><br />So get off the polictical shout box and just go with the facts, prosecutors should be held to the truth and not to the won another case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-14986622013670429342009-11-07T09:16:16.129-06:002009-11-07T09:16:16.129-06:00Judging by his appointments; his desire to undermi...Judging by his appointments; his desire to undermine nearly everything we know as a free society; his government take over of practically anything and everything he chooses; his willingness to print trillions of worthless dollars (backed by nothing) so that our economy can sink even deeper; his flamboyant behavior of campaigning the entire first year in office while doing little of anything else except providing lip service and playing golf. This is no surprise whatsoever, what’s surprising is that the members of his own party are just now starting to ask what the hell is going on?<br /><br />I had faith in him; I now only have disgust, and have to wonder myself what the hell was I thinking. The only positive thing he has accomplished is ordering the Fed’s to lay off the Marijuana.<br /><br />I’m sick to death of receiving automated phone calls three times a week telling me how my President is changing America, and what I can do to help, what the hell is that all about? I don’t ever remember getting a solicitation, not one, [ever], trying to support a President’s agenda; is his plan so weak in conception that he has to spend millions of dollars to try and build support for it?<br /><br />What a sad joke this has become, and now we have to wonder if they are going to pass laws making it legal for cops and prosecutors to fabricate evidence, what next? <br /><br />His actions are shameful and if he doesn’t snap out of his “wow I’m the President crap,” and start acting Presidential instead of just acting, then he should quit and see if anyone is interested in bringing some old Reagan movies back, maybe he could get the leading part.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-28009487979392780182009-11-07T01:22:51.891-06:002009-11-07T01:22:51.891-06:00I'm sure no one is surprised by this, we'v...I'm sure no one is surprised by this, we've seen the Obama Solicitor General take quite a few policy positions identical to the Bush Administration's.<br /><br />It's funny the teabaggers call Obama ultra liberal and socialist while ignoring things like this. There's more moderate in Obama than most people want to admit.Kelley Ryberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07149602451285805738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-72502600048652791642009-11-06T22:43:08.192-06:002009-11-06T22:43:08.192-06:00Really starting to question OBama.Really starting to question OBama.Hook Em Hornshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660612847019528535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-58945448476065066142009-11-06T16:40:29.521-06:002009-11-06T16:40:29.521-06:00Off topic but as usual I don't know where else...Off topic but as usual I don't know where else to bring it up. Have you seen the CNN article (I first heard about it on NPR about 2 weeks ago) about Chicago prosecutors wanting to subpoena the records of journalism students at Northwestern who have worked on the Medill Innocence project? Apparently, they don't like the prosecutors office being shown up for false convictions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-32434729921082011052009-11-06T15:21:21.792-06:002009-11-06T15:21:21.792-06:00Welcome back to Crawford Politics.
Fixed that for...<i>Welcome back to Crawford Politics.</i><br /><br />Fixed that for you.<br /><br />RageAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-70070223058572232962009-11-06T13:39:34.678-06:002009-11-06T13:39:34.678-06:00"So in effect, based on this possible Supreme..."So in effect, based on this possible Supreme Court ruling; a police officer and a prosecutor could work in harmony to prosecute someone for no other reason than; in their opinion the person is guilty and so in order to get the jury to side with their position; fabricate away, with immunity."<br /><br />This has been standard procedure in Smith County for years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-74445413446953825442009-11-06T12:43:07.730-06:002009-11-06T12:43:07.730-06:00The Obama's administration involvement really ...The Obama's administration involvement really surprised me when I first read about it. But then I think back to Guatanamo Bay, and the administration couldn't even get Congress to allow them to close it. Or his remarks about indefinite confinement without trial for some detainees that raised barely an eyebrow because conservatives were getting so worked up over the possibility of Obama conferring any rights to enemy combatants. When I really think about it, this isn't all that surprising.David Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-59354492471978888932009-11-06T11:56:36.367-06:002009-11-06T11:56:36.367-06:00So in effect, based on this possible Supreme Court...So in effect, based on this possible Supreme Court ruling; a police officer and a prosecutor could work in harmony to prosecute someone for no other reason than; in their opinion the person is guilty and so in order to get the jury to side with their position; fabricate away, with immunity.<br /><br />Big government is scary, and the Obama way is becoming so incredibly scary so quickly that if this is ruled upon in favor of the crooked cops and prosecutors a whole new can of worms exists for anyone with opposing view points of his Presidency for any reason.<br /><br />Welcome to Chicago Politics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-36810723336643360992009-11-06T09:55:55.022-06:002009-11-06T09:55:55.022-06:00Excellent summary. And probably an accurate WAG.
...Excellent summary. And probably an accurate WAG.<br /><br />I wish prosecutors were half as good at interpreting the law and court opinions as you are. We'd have fewer DAs arguing these ridiculous positions, including that it's OK to convict a man who is actually innocent because he's had his day in court.<br /><br />RageAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com