tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post1185617424508030931..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Suggested rules for using Precision Immobilization TechniqueGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-9759315120330452712017-11-20T20:40:21.448-06:002017-11-20T20:40:21.448-06:00Let us all remember that HPD cannot typically foll...Let us all remember that HPD cannot typically follow the rules and that we will all pay for the damages to endless vehicles, as they need repair or replacement, etc., along with the many forth coming lawsuits by those injured or the families of the dead, killed in the use of such maneuvers and the unfair additional charges of murder for the simple crime of running and then cops causing deaths of innocent bystanders, etc., etc., etc.<br /><br />The idea is too stupid for words. Too many mistakes can and will be made and too many people hurt, when we have tools like radios, surveillance, records on the vehicles and their owners (stolen vehicles will be sued for short periods and dumped without incident), helicopters and good old fashioned chase free police work to identify the drivers (like having a cops stop and take pictures along the way, early in a pursuit and then stop the pursuit to DECREASE, rather than increase, danger.Hank Lambhttps://www.facebook.com/hank.lamb.5noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-25952486966175378742017-11-19T09:06:06.881-06:002017-11-19T09:06:06.881-06:00When is it actually necessary for police to force ...When is it actually necessary for police to force a suspect off the road though? Would you use a PIT to stop a car evading an Amber Alert with a suspect child inside? What about unidentified passengers?<br /><br />I read a book in college about the Rhodesian bush war, and to remember a quote as best I can, "the difference between a soldier and a policeman is time. Soldiers value punctuality because in combat they never have time, time to maneuver, to seek cover, reload, time is life. But a policeman is part of a system. A suspect not caught today, if he is guilty, will be caught tomorrow..."<br /><br />It seems like whenever police try to solve problems immediately, people get hurt... When do you REALLY need to stop a car, when you know the car will have to stop for fuel or fatigue? And with shooting suspects, who can we send our sons and daughters to Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria with orders not to shoot until fired upon but not use the same standard for police?<br /><br />I see more dubious violence from law enforcement than I see times to be great full for it. It wasn't a policeman who stopped the Las Vegas shooter, or Southerland Springs, they shot themselves. All I see are police shooting people when they "feared for their lives" and that response is meaningless when it was taught by a department lawyer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-22298992760474300492017-11-19T07:04:31.334-06:002017-11-19T07:04:31.334-06:00HPD has been using the PIT since it's inceptio...HPD has been using the PIT since it's inception, they had even outfitted many of their cruisers with special front bumpers specifically for this purpose. TriggerMortishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13488782801153643342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-60737025713367788512017-11-18T16:21:08.116-06:002017-11-18T16:21:08.116-06:00Those rules may be a bit too restrictive.
While m...Those rules may be a bit too restrictive.<br /><br />While most agencies have very restrictive pursuit policies these days, the Supreme Court has issued a series of increasingly lenient decisions regarding police using force to end "dangerous police pursuits" and have made it very clear that if the police shot dangerous fleeing motorists off the road, that would pass constitutional muster.<br /><br />Making an overly strict PIT policy, when PIT is intended to not cause a crash or dangerous wreck, when the legal alternative is shooting them off the road, seems counterproductive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-6903786436565133272017-11-18T13:43:47.654-06:002017-11-18T13:43:47.654-06:00Grits, remember that this is the Houston Chronicle...Grits, remember that this is the Houston Chronicle you're talking about. Unless someone writes the article for them ahead of time, they do a bare bones approach due to reduced staffing (occasionally one of their reporters will go the extra mile on a side project of importance to them but that is rare). You might set up an account and comment on their articles but don't expect much from them.<br /><br />As far as advanced stopping techniques, HPD has a lengthy history of having a set of formal rules that are not adhered to in practice, previous attempts to reel in chasing suspects disregarded time and time again as "evading arrest is a felony" was espoused by their spokesmen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com