tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post1258033935350689540..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Does drug treatment for juveniles increase recidivism?Gritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-66006766347891540762010-09-17T01:50:28.489-05:002010-09-17T01:50:28.489-05:00http://www.pachills.com
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ht...http://www.pachills.com<br />http://www.pachills.com<br />http://www.miramarlagunabeach.com<br />http://www.miramarlagunabeach.com<br />http://nptifitness.com<br />http://nptifitness.comSanjeev kumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16816569962920339225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-84331657506992140762010-08-06T21:57:22.153-05:002010-08-06T21:57:22.153-05:00I think it is a poor choice of words to say that T...I think it is a poor choice of words to say that TYC drug treatment increased recidivism. The reality is that the youth who were in the program were more likely to reoffend than those who needed it and didn't get it. There are many problems with these comparisons in TYC. The comparison and treatment samples are completely contaminated and not independent of each other. Those with a greater treatment problem are more likely to get put into the program and are inherently at higher risk to reoffend than those who didn't. There is clearly a selection bias in these data and also many need drug treatment but may not receive it because they are in other programs. SOme of the other programs have good recidivism rates.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-88671654806970084212010-07-31T07:50:22.279-05:002010-07-31T07:50:22.279-05:00Good discussion and food for thought Grits! I have...Good discussion and food for thought Grits! I have always wondered about just throwing juveniles together without some kind of evaluation. In local detention centers, I think they meet "new friends" and end up with more negative peers that before they came in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-58907965809731346032010-07-30T23:23:25.700-05:002010-07-30T23:23:25.700-05:00I appreciate the information on drug rehabilitatio...I appreciate the information on drug rehabilitation and the counter effects of housing these youths collectively for extended periods of time during 'Chemical Dependency' program completion as your reporting suggests. <br />However, what studies have been conducted and what current programming options are available for the juvs being housed, again for extended periods of time with juvs with more procriminal attitudes and behaviors in 'general population'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-41470534655046379002010-07-30T20:58:11.580-05:002010-07-30T20:58:11.580-05:00It may be because teens are much more driven by th...It may be because teens are much more driven by their peer relationships than are adults. These peer relationships may be intensified among youths who are chemically dependent. Thus, putting them together in an attempt to provide therapy, may be what strengthens, rather than weakens their addictions. I have no proof that this may be true - just a supposition based upon observation.Old Saltynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-60029734550722953352010-07-30T19:44:58.674-05:002010-07-30T19:44:58.674-05:00Residential drug treatment and juvenile drug court...Residential drug treatment and juvenile drug court results are not very promising from my experience and I have both. Definition of "successful" is all over the charts. What should the rate be? Nobody knows. Everyone makes up their own numbers.<br /><br />platoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-33377874552089003642010-07-30T16:42:58.990-05:002010-07-30T16:42:58.990-05:00There are so many different levels of addiction, s...There are so many different levels of addiction, support structures when kids get out of TYC, and so many other variables. How can you create two subsets of kids that are exactly the same? <br /><br />Here's the problem in comparing people to one another and drawing any kind of conclusion. <br /><br />Let's say kid A was sent to TYC for Burglary of a Habitation and kid B was sent to TYC for Burglary of a Habitation. <br /><br />There is no way in the world that you can compare these kids for recidivsm or anything else just based upon the offense they were sent to TYC for. There are way too many variables to measure this. <br /><br />Same goes with this drug treatment study and comparing those that had treatment to those that needed it but didn't get it. There are so many variables to consider. Peer influence when they get out, parental influence, family structure of each kid, etc. It is impossible to have a true measure because all things are not equal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-42013692536251146332010-07-30T16:39:33.469-05:002010-07-30T16:39:33.469-05:00They call me mellow yellow . . .They call me mellow yellow . . .Samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-42879949697088813412010-07-30T15:49:27.681-05:002010-07-30T15:49:27.681-05:00As I understand it, 2:18, that's part of the r...As I understand it, 2:18, that's part of the reason: I was told at one point by a mid-level administrator that they considered the subset who did get treatment essentially a "pilot" but hadn't pushed to expand because the results just weren't panning out. That's rumor-mill stuff, I've never seen that written or heard it stated openly at the Lege, but in the context of everything else it makes sense.<br /><br />Now I wonder if perhaps TYC should eliminate drug treatment entirely and shift resources to tactics with more proven track records?<br /><br />I also wonder what treatment programs' track record is in juvenile probation?Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-29198822094273795632010-07-30T14:18:49.459-05:002010-07-30T14:18:49.459-05:00Maybe that is the reason that TYC failed to provid...Maybe that is the reason that TYC failed to provide drug treatment to so many youth in need of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com