tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post1299282009790815633..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: News flash: Cop calls Grits a liarGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger229125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-15361157367813708742013-09-07T19:35:59.453-05:002013-09-07T19:35:59.453-05:00I'm sorry to have to say this but just because...I'm sorry to have to say this but just because you have a badge on doesn't make you an honest trust worthy person. Mr. Acevedo proves the point! Another Policeman scrambling to "cover the ass's" of his department. I'm sick of this "Blue Wall" of either silence or white wash. Please tell me why with story after story of abuse and corruption and white wash by Police Chiefs should we ever trust a cop!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-69737402778743194882012-05-09T16:20:18.390-05:002012-05-09T16:20:18.390-05:00I don't care for political BS nor do I care fo...I don't care for political BS nor do I care for typical posturing by various testosterone thumping "men" all yowling that their truth is the only one. <br /><br />What I do care about is how the police should be ASHAMED of terrifying a 5 year old so much that no one would be surprised if she is terrified of cops the rest of her life. A sign of the times perhaps? Even in easy going Canada, the police isn't seen in a positive light.<br /><br />I am more outraged that Grandpa was nearly arrested for babysitting his grand-daughter just because they didn't have the same skin color. I'm not sure I wouldn't have been MORE vocal than he has been about it, too. I'd have pushed for a public apology! Who cares about the he said crap, an apology IS in order. At least to that precious little 5 year old who is now likely terrified of cops >.<<br /><br />Good on you Grits, for telling it like it IS. Haters will be haters and trolls can never help themselves, even if it means coming out from under their dark, dank bridges.Shannonhttp://www.livingwithfibromyalgia.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-17491471726607748882012-03-01T14:08:12.210-06:002012-03-01T14:08:12.210-06:00Dear Chief Acevedo,
Good job. Your staff respond...Dear Chief Acevedo,<br /><br />Good job. Your staff responded promptly to a citizen's report of a child in danger, and acted quickly to resolve the situation with only minimum inconvenience to an unnecessarily uncooperative dumbass citizen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-65518877632914175252012-02-29T17:23:40.817-06:002012-02-29T17:23:40.817-06:00Hey Scott, just a couple pointers:
1.) No one giv...Hey Scott, just a couple pointers:<br /><br />1.) No one gives a shit. You're not a martyr, so stop acting like one.<br /><br />2.) You're white, she's black. A rational human being would question if you were related; it's not about racial profiling, it's called heredity.<br /><br />3.) You look like a pudgy sex offender, so there's that too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-20306231317212788942012-02-27T11:54:16.144-06:002012-02-27T11:54:16.144-06:00Man, you just swim in the negative, don't you?...Man, you just swim in the negative, don't you? I love how you spend 99% of your time on what is supposedly wrong and give only brief mention to what is good, or right (like the female constable- she got, what? a sentence?). <br /><br />My anger over your lies has given way to sadness for the horrible life you must live. Hate on cops all you want but for whatever bad goes down they also do GOOD, which is more than I can say for you, you pathetic lump.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-6330478143892107642012-02-27T09:10:26.431-06:002012-02-27T09:10:26.431-06:00Blue in Guadalupe….
It wasn’t that the Constable’s...Blue in Guadalupe….<br />It wasn’t that the Constable’s judgment in question. She didn’t know APD was responding, until after they were already converging on the area in question. Once she discovered they were responding, she switched her radio channel to APD and communicated to the dispatcher the information she had. All of that takes time. And before dispatch could call off their oversized response, APD was already in contact with Scott and Ty. I agree that APD should have handled this with a smaller response and could have handled their contact with Scott without handcuffing him. But it is easy to Monday Morning Quarterback the situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-12841846803479654032012-02-26T23:54:13.522-06:002012-02-26T23:54:13.522-06:00The amazing thing to me is that so many of the cri...The amazing thing to me is that so many of the critics have missed the point that the Constable told the APD officers responding that she'd already handled it and all was well yet they felt the need to not only question Grits again but to escalate the situation.<br /><br />Why wasn't the Constable's judgement satisfactory?Blue_in_Guadalupehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06781055706724830970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-89620454184982845562012-02-26T07:02:43.587-06:002012-02-26T07:02:43.587-06:003:49, Don't kid yourself; a lot of these comme...3:49, Don't kid yourself; a lot of these comments came all at once when this hit some APA listserv or message board, and many indeed are repeaters. To say cops packed this string is an understatement. If it were a "majority of citizens," more would spew their venom under their own names, because most citizens are not cowards who hide behind anonymity like a child behind mommy's skirt.<br /><br />2:38, I get backlash all the time and expect it. In this case the backlash had turned in part toward a little girl and her family, sometimes on hateful, racial terms, and that's why I wanted her privacy protected. Moreover, if I hadn't made that request they wouldn't have even blurred her face. And fwiw, it was a family decision to try to keep images of her out of the media, not just mine.<br /><br />As for my credibility, I judge the issue a little differently. This blog's credibility doesn't stem from its reputation or what Art Acevedo says about it. It stems from the fact that policy makers and people who work in the system find information and analysis here that they don't get anywhere else. As long as that's true, they'll come. For the most part, the general public is not my target audience.<br /><br />Besides, in the media world, as the saying goes, there's no such thing as bad publicity. Indeed, this whole episode has bumped up my email subscriptions about 5% in the last few weeks - the majority from Texas state and local government domains. To my knowledge, only one person unsubscribed because of it.<br /><br />You're are right it will blow over. Indeed, I've been telling reporters since it first happened that it wasn't actually "news" by any of the public policy criteria I was taught back in the day.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-54809098619027908702012-02-25T19:55:16.891-06:002012-02-25T19:55:16.891-06:00for your entertainment
http://www.therecord.com/n...for your entertainment<br /><br />http://www.therecord.com/news/local/article/676150--man-shocked-by-arrest-after-daughter-draws-picture-of-gun-at-school <br /><br />4-yr old sketches picture of toy and panics older persons to the point that they assault her dad.<br /><br />more at<br /><br />http://www.therecord.com/news/local/article/676744--gun-leading-to-dad-s-arrest-was-a-toy<br /><br />how cool is that?<br /><br /><br />btw Mr Hensen if this is inappropriate to this thread, please deleteDoc Ellis 124https://www.blogger.com/profile/08543939658083915285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-91394003246355185162012-02-25T15:49:03.629-06:002012-02-25T15:49:03.629-06:00I love how every loon on here thinks there is some...I love how every loon on here thinks there is some grand conspiracy to get APD officers to post multiple times without reading the article. It's beyond your comprehension that there are actually a majority of citizens that support APD and what they did in this incident.<br /><br />I see your typical conspiracy freaks here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-60285892612598754632012-02-25T14:38:01.808-06:002012-02-25T14:38:01.808-06:00I agree with the poster above that stated everyone...I agree with the poster above that stated everyone needs to chill. Not everyone hates the police, nor does everyone deify them.<br /><br />Grits, you dug your own hole on this one. The whole "babysitting while white" was inflammatory, and when it was shown to be hyperbolic you should have fully expected the backlash. Based upon your email exchange with Acevedo, I suspect you did and tried to save face. I read your blog as it is sometimes informative and amusing, but your credibility took a hit on this.<br /><br />As for the irate cops, don't get your panties in a wad. It's not as if you shoud be surprised considering the previous site APD Hall of shame. To coin your vernacular, "Move along, there's nothing to see here".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-30538846686466309262012-02-25T11:33:51.112-06:002012-02-25T11:33:51.112-06:00Sorry, Richie B, you've been taking a lot of p...Sorry, Richie B, you've been taking a lot of potshots ad it's hard to tell sometimes who is your target. I'm glad you've chosen to be the "bigger person" and I promise not to take offense if it turns out to be true that you're "done coming to this site." best,Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-53598374017617581712012-02-25T11:01:33.013-06:002012-02-25T11:01:33.013-06:00Seriously grits, are you able to read? Is there s...Seriously grits, are you able to read? Is there something wrong with the way you take in and process information that we should know about? You seriously couldn't read the first line of the second paragraph, indicating that everything after was meant for phelps? I'll tell you what, just keep flappin your gums, you prove with each post or word how little you actually know, and how no person with common sense (or apparently the ability to read) should pay you any attention.<br /><br />AND AS FOR YOU PHELPS (hope that clears it up, grits), you take the absolute worst of a profession, much of which you assign without proof beyond "that's what I saw/heard/felt one time," and make a sweeping statement regarding everyone who wears a badge. Only a fool deals in absolutes, and you've proven that's all you can deal in.<br /><br />The bottom line is that niether of us will convince the other of their stance being the correct one, so I'll be the bigger person and end this. I'm sure you and grits will flame me after I'm gone, but I'm done coming to this site, as it is an exercise in arguing with idiots. You've dragged me down to your level and now you're trying to beat me with experience. I won't respond any further.<br /><br />I only ask that you both (yes grits, THIS means you too) take a long, hard, honest look at yourselves and try to figure out why you hate a specific profession with such intensity. But let me guess, you're the only ones that can see the truth, and everyone else is wrong, right? There's a name for that - paranoid schizophrenia. Seek help, for the sake of everyone in your lives.<br /><br />I hope that you seek the help you so obviously deperately need, and that you learn to let go of your unwarranted, seething anger. I truly do. Until that day, I shall continue to pity you both.Richie Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-34635344240983596602012-02-25T10:37:46.224-06:002012-02-25T10:37:46.224-06:00BTW folks, just as a thought experiment:
What if ...BTW folks, just as a thought experiment:<br /><br />What if it HAD been a kidnapping and I had an accomplice? Just having a phone number with a woman on the other end was enough to get me released; they had no way to confirm the person on the other end was the Mom. Ultimately, they could only rely on the demeanor and word of the child. How was APD's approach supposedly so superior to the deputy's?Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-77137880950557243542012-02-25T10:34:46.243-06:002012-02-25T10:34:46.243-06:00Richie B writes, "You absolutely hate police ...Richie B writes, "You absolutely hate police officers so much that you're willing to take some percieved slight and run with it until in your mind it's akin to what the nazi's did to the Jews."<br /><br />Here's the deal: I feel no compunction to defend positions I've never taken just because you want to attribute them to me. I've taken responsibility for what I wrote, but I can't and won't take responsibility for whatever foolishness you think I think. I've never said any of that, and defy you to find anything remotely similar in anything I've ever written.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-12906859581188985432012-02-25T10:15:22.040-06:002012-02-25T10:15:22.040-06:00It is simple for me. I respect justice. I do not s...It is simple for me. I respect justice. I do not see that same respect from the police. I see cops who spend thier days as stealth tax collectors on the side of the road, picking spots that improve revenue rather than safety. I see cops who cover up for criminals simply because the criminal also wears a badge. I see cops campaigning to abridge the citizens' freedom -- while carving out exceptions for themselves. <br /><br />I see people who think that rather than keeping the peace, seek to enforce the law -- and either think that they are the law, or worse, are above the law. <br /><br />This episode in particular shows how far from Peel's principles American policing has strayed. If cops saw themselves as part of the community, why do they keep calling us "civilians"? If the really wanted the support of the public, why call names and try to intimidate critics on the Internet and in person? Why did the APD go straight to force when the constable had already demonstrated that words were sufficient?<br /><br />Worst of all, this particular instance violates the last peel principle -- that the police should do what is necessary to stop crime, NOT what gives the APPEARANCE of stopping crime. Nine cars for this was all show. Even if it HAD been a kidnapping three cars would have been more than enough. <br /><br />The other cars showed up because responding to an abduction call is exciting, and frankly, fun. Here's a rule that is as true in law enforcement as it is in litigation -- if you are doing something mainly because it is exciting, you probably shouldn't be doing it.Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270536870200063563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-12846731861946256812012-02-25T09:59:46.122-06:002012-02-25T09:59:46.122-06:00That's the point, grits, that law enforcement ...That's the point, grits, that law enforcement isn't that dangerous, and that not every cop in the world seeks glory for putting their lives on the line the way people on this site are claiming. You've been proven to be a liar, but I at least thought you were literate and had some intelligence. The fact that you missed that in my posts makes me lose what little respect I had for you. You did you just "mis-remember" what I posted?<br /><br />As for you phelps, again, that's my point. There's no reason for you to have such venom and bile towards law enforcement, so what is it? What's the reason you so hate and loathe people paid to protect you and enforce laws enacted by your elected representatives? There must be something. I'll even accept "just because I'm an unhappy person who despises authority in any form," which is what it's beginning to sound like. You absolutely hate police officers so much that you're willing to take some percieved slight and run with it until in your mind it's akin to what the nazi's did to the Jews. My question still stands. Why? You haven't answered it.<br /><br />But something tells me you won't, either. Either way, I pity you and grits. Making up trepasses against yourself just for the sake of justifying your loathing and seething hatred for a profession that, again, would lay down their lives for yours without question just proves you have no character whatsoever.Richie Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-10179583434328817352012-02-25T09:21:54.352-06:002012-02-25T09:21:54.352-06:00Hey, hey!!!
Cops are listed at the 9th most danger...Hey, hey!!!<br />Cops are listed at the 9th most dangerous job in this Business Insider website. That is a change from #14 to #9 when comparing the 2008 data to 2010 data. Yea, made the top 10, whoopi, where is my red solo cup! Glad we can put that discussion to bed. <br /><br /> http://www.businessinsider.com/most-dangerous-jobs-2011-9#no-9-police-and-sheriffs-patrol-officers-7Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-25001175395760773922012-02-25T08:52:00.269-06:002012-02-25T08:52:00.269-06:00I must apologize for my typos in my previous post(...I must apologize for my typos in my previous post(s). It is funny how even when you proofread something before posting it, you can still miss things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-56492939115156229602012-02-25T08:39:01.522-06:002012-02-25T08:39:01.522-06:00Grits, I read the posts that you referenced on the...Grits, I read the posts that you referenced on the “relative dangerousness of police jobs”. As I read the information being provided, it appears this is a statistical analysis of the number of deaths compared to the number of people in that particular field. These statistics don’t answer the question of why? In reference to police, could it be that they are better trained and more cautious than the fishermen? I don’t know, but certainly in watching programs such as the Deadliest Catch, it appears much of what a greenhorn learns in on the job. And the dangers of the ocean can’t be overlooked. Those are some very dangerous environments they have to work in. <br /><br />But I think we can see one of the most inherent risks to police officers and that is the motoring public. And a traffic officer on a traffic stop will have up to 100 cars go zipping by the traffic stop. That was 100 potential crashes. There is a strong likelihood that several intoxicated drivers passed by as well. The fact that the crash doesn’t occur does not make the potential go away nor lesson the chance of the fatal crash. That is not represented in the statistical analysis. An officer responding to a domestic in progress has to face any number of dangers. From the dangers of driving fast to respond quickly, the dangers of the other driver’s on the road between where the officer is coming from to where the domestic is occurring, the unknown dangers upon arrival at the domestic, such as an ambush by the abusing party (who doesn’t want the police there in the first place), the dangers of any number of weapons in the house, to the danger that the victim suddenly twists around to protect her abusing husband (it happens). The fact that several units safely get to the domestic, handle the situation, and leave without getting killed or injured is not reflected in the statistical analysis.<br /><br />These stats don’t really mean much in determining what line of work is most dangerous. They definitely reflect with jobs had the highest rate of death. But they don't answer the why question.<br /><br />I would hope that we continue to train police officers and improve tactics to the point that the number of deaths of officer drops even more, but it doesn’t take away the dangers of the job. In determining dangerousness of the job, it would appear to me that you would have to take into consideration deaths, injuries, and the potential of death and injury.<br /><br />Just as we can see that firefighters are listed at 6.9 deaths per 100,000. Does that mean that they don’t have a dangerous job? That number looks to me to mean that they receive extensive training, have great equipment, and follow their safety protocol. But it doesn’t mean they don’t have a dangerous job to do when they go into a burning house to search for victims.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-1674910214067226232012-02-25T07:53:45.227-06:002012-02-25T07:53:45.227-06:00Methinks phelps has a chip on his shoulder for a r...<i>Methinks phelps has a chip on his shoulder for a reason. What was it? Were you a punk growing up? Short man's complex?</i><br /><br />Nope. Never had any trouble as a kid, and I'm well over six foot tall. I'm just a libertarian who not only read Robert Peel's writings on police reform -- I <i>understood</i> them.<br /><br />It is amusing to me that the only way you can conceive of someone having a problem with you being a bully is if they had been bullied.Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270536870200063563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-48313083404172449122012-02-25T07:47:58.176-06:002012-02-25T07:47:58.176-06:00I don’t know that anyone “owes” anyone an apology....I don’t know that anyone “owes” anyone an apology. The original 911 caller was concerned for the safety of a 5 year old girl and misread what was transpiring as they left the community center. I’m sure she feels something about how it all turned out, probable most sorry that Ty had to see her grandfather being dealt with by the police, but she can take some solace in the fact that it was not an attempted kidnapping and sexual assault of the child. <br />The officers of APD responded to the call with the limited information they had on hand. But should they apologize? “Sorry we didn’t get told it was a grandfather protectively chasing after his granddaughter to keep her from running out too far or into the street.” Of course if the caller had known that, then a call would not have been made. It wasn’t like APD just randomly saw a white guy with a little black girl and instantly made a false assumption and thus a racial profile encounter. <br />The constable handled the sticky situation with a man with a chip already on his shoulder in a very good way. She even tried to call off APD, once she knew they were responding as well, but events happened too quickly. She owes no one an apology.<br />Should Scott apologize? Only if he has remorse for his actions, same as I think opine about everyone else involved. I’m sure that he has remorse that Ty had to experience this. What he says to his granddaughter is his business. He appeared in his blog to be about to reassure Ty about the contact with the constable when APD rolls up. Bad timing, but that doesn’t mean they don’t talk about it later. It would be nice if she doesn’t develop the same chip on her shoulder that he appears to have. <br />Should he apologize about his misrepresenting the events of that night? He has already admitted that he was wrong about a taser being pointed at him. You cops out there should not expect an apology from a person who wrote about his experience from his recollection and perception of the events. It is, after all, his blog and his opinion. If it were intentional, then it was a lie, but does it really matter anyway? And what would an apology from anyone on this matter mean anyway. The anti-police crowd would still have their chips on their shoulder. The cops still have their job to do. Ty is the only one that might benefit, and that all depends on how this whole event is framed by her parents and grandparents. <br />It is scary to read some of the responses from what appears to be both sides of this story. Name calling by those who appear to be in support of or possible cops to the anti police folks that appear to be in the verge of conducting their own terroristic attack on a police station or the beating up of the constable for her initial approach and response to a person telling her of their fear for the safety of the child. Those are everyone else’s opinion, but some of the thought processing occurring out there is simply scary. (And we wonder why APD had so many units show up at the scene. Seems that gets answered by reading some of these posts and the threats that have been made.) But I am thankful we are ALL allowed to voice our opinion on Grits’ comment section.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-86473884699706849132012-02-25T06:14:11.622-06:002012-02-25T06:14:11.622-06:00BGB, I admitted I blew it - and not just the three...BGB, I admitted I blew it - and not just the three-word error out of a 2,500+ word essay that Acevedo is complaining about (see above at 2/20, 8:02, and in the post where I say I was "flat-out wrong"). Also I would say this string has attracted as many cops and their supporters as their critics. Anyone like Richie B (or you) who thinks this has permanently damaged my credibility should just not visit anymore. You're here by your own choice so if you choose to visit sites you consider non-credible, that says more about you than your opinion does about me.<br /><br />I'd be curious how many people here could go through an intense, rapid, complex situation like that, write 2,500 words about it based solely on memory with no notes or access to primary sources, and when compared to video, audio and other detailed documentation have only three words disputed? Considering I had no sources but my memory, IMO, as <a href="http://www.examiner.com/civil-liberties-in-austin/austin-police-chief-media-launch-smear-campaign-against-brutalized-grandfather" rel="nofollow">this writer</a> put it:<br /><br />"reviewed closely, the video actually seems to corroborate Henson's basic story of APD over-reaction and excessively aggressive behavior.<br /><br />"Furthermore, a comparison of the evidence, including the video, to statements by Chief Acevedo and various media sources tends to bolster a contrary case that it's Chief Acevedo and some media outlets that are disseminating wildly erroneous and misleading information."<br /><br />I made two errors and corrected them as soon as they were brought to my attention. (Notice I also corrected the error about the department that is NOT complaining - I did it because I got it wrong, not from any pressure.) Chief Acevedo has seized on one of those errors to call it a "lie," but mainly as a smokescreen to conceal the more important truth revealed by my other mistake, which is: Harking back to the old "one riot, one Ranger days," they didn't need 9 officers to handle this, they didn't need to cuff me in front of the kid or scare her half to death. The real story here IMO is the comparison of how the two departments handled the incident: One based on a community policing model, the other with a cuff-first, ask questions later approach. Nobody seems to want to talk about that difference, but it's the main public policy issue actually raised by the anecdote.<br /><br />Oh, and to Richie B, I don't know where you're getting your information on the relative dangerousness of police jobs, but you're utterly clueless on that topic. Here's the <a href="http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2009/09/police-have-dangerous-jobs-but-some.html" rel="nofollow">most recent data</a> I've seen. Among government employees, garbage workers have by far the most dangerous jobs, more than twice as dangerous as police in terms of risk of death.<br /><br />Also, you're wrong that an apology at the scene "would not have changed Scott’s perception." In this case, if sincere, there's a decent chance it would have prevented the original post in the first place.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-89010754701377530372012-02-25T00:56:04.511-06:002012-02-25T00:56:04.511-06:00sorry chris but i have to give richie B this one!
...sorry chris but i have to give richie B this one!<br /><br />"Further, Chris, I don't know what kind of cops you hang out with, but when you refer to the unions, I would say that every union on Earth lobbies for those things on behalf of their members. What's different about cops?"<br /><br />If they were not trying to get the most for their members. Said members would be hauling them into court to can them!rodsmithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-14405139450962131162012-02-25T00:20:09.033-06:002012-02-25T00:20:09.033-06:00Methinks phelps has a chip on his shoulder for a r...Methinks phelps has a chip on his shoulder for a reason. What was it? Were you a punk growing up? Short man's complex? There's no reason for someone to have the animosity and distain that you have for an entire profession just based on the mere hint of the idea that you might someday, someplace be subjected to the scrutiny of a police officer for some offense. The fact that you carry so much bile towards pesons who would gladly lay down their lives so that you can carry on yours speaks volumes about your character, or rather, the lack thereof.<br /><br />With regard to the active shooter incidents, I love how persons whose only exposure to any form of law enforcement is watching far too many episodes of CSI or COPS (that'd be you) feel they have the expertise to pontificate about police procedure in any fashion, let alone the nightmare call that an active shooter is. <br /><br />Phelps, the reality is that you have no clue what you're talking about, but you have no qualms spouting off about it, either. The truly sad part is, the more you open your mouth, the more surely you are revealed to be a fool. So by all means, go on and talk big about defending yourself and keep the air of Lay-Z-Boy bravado, because anyone with any sort of a functioning brain can see through your charade.Richie Bnoreply@blogger.com