tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post2365356650313519568..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: 'Bad Jurors': No disclosureGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-44641945797811082542010-11-02T15:28:37.283-05:002010-11-02T15:28:37.283-05:00Rage, can't you confine your stupidity to murr...<i>Rage, can't you confine your stupidity to murrays blog?</i> <br /><br />No, there's plenty of my stupidity to go around.<br /><br />RageAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-26797036643197608662010-11-02T14:59:30.846-05:002010-11-02T14:59:30.846-05:00Rage, can't you confine your stupidity to murr...Rage, can't you confine your stupidity to murrays blog? <br />Jeez.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-19496443359803609152010-11-02T08:16:33.718-05:002010-11-02T08:16:33.718-05:00Grits is right, the AG's opinion here is solid...Grits is right, the AG's opinion here is solid based on the law (the list is attorney work product just like their personal notes or strategy). The Batson issue is interesting: there's no way to know if the prosecutor is using the list in a particular case unless they're open & obvious about it. I guess you'd have to make a Batson challenge, then ask whether the prosecutor was using the list for this particular voir dire, then argue that a particular strike from the list was race/gender/ethnicity-based. <br /><br />From a practical standpoint, I couldn't agree more that this kind of thing becomes a crutch for lazy lawyers. Stereotyping based on race, gender, ethnicity, religion, affluence is just a short-cut that, while sometimes accurate, is also sometimes not. Personally I'd rather base my decisions on something more concrete.Mike Howardhttp://www.MikeHowardLaw.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-89839398912280616442010-11-01T20:25:43.856-05:002010-11-01T20:25:43.856-05:00I forget: Do the DAs work for the citizens or do t...I forget: Do the DAs work for the citizens or do the citizens work for the DAs?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-43873112914102367292010-11-01T18:32:57.827-05:002010-11-01T18:32:57.827-05:00It was essentially useless and became a crutch for...<i>It was essentially useless and became a crutch for lazy prosecutors.</i><br /><br />So that's a yes, then. Harris County prosecutors have one.<br /><br />RageAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-8342631610043296892010-11-01T13:26:50.601-05:002010-11-01T13:26:50.601-05:00The Dallas DA's office kept a list for years. ...The Dallas DA's office kept a list for years. Defense attorneys got access to them on a case by case basis in the early 90's. It essentially was a list of jurors who did not vote to convict in earlier cases. Without knowing the details of the case and the prosecutor's criteria for listing a juror you could not put the list in context. It was essentially useless and became a crutch for lazy prosecutors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-31048116649205956062010-11-01T12:16:04.192-05:002010-11-01T12:16:04.192-05:00I doubt she'd have ruled any differently, and ...I doubt she'd have ruled any differently, and particularly without having read it, I don't even know that I think this is an incorrect ruling, fwiw - I may prefer otherwise, but I can see the argument that it's attorney work product, which has its own exception. <br /><br />That said, if only for Batson purposes, I'll bet it is eventually released through discovery or some court proceeding.<br /><br />And I still want to know if other DA's offices have Bad Juror Lists. Y'all?Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-87008573425659197112010-11-01T11:20:54.526-05:002010-11-01T11:20:54.526-05:00Another reason to vote for Barbara Ann Radnofsky f...Another reason to vote for Barbara Ann Radnofsky for AG.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com