tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post3240306368568118891..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Spillover: Is a Texas prison gang responsibile for half the violence in Juarez?Gritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-6628724622000723432010-04-10T16:14:17.576-05:002010-04-10T16:14:17.576-05:00proof enough of this colusion between calderon and...proof enough of this colusion between calderon and el chapo is the fact that many people surrounding his presidency have been openly talking about making a truce with the sinaloa cartel in order to "allow" them to run mexico-these last two weeks prior to the release of the "story" on the associated press that the sinaloa cartel had "won" the war in juarez-many were advocating the pact with sinaloa-coincidence i dont think so!! at least the people of juarez and el paso don't think so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-1104423873192400322010-04-10T10:08:47.434-05:002010-04-10T10:08:47.434-05:00"Funny you mention that. That's what Pres..."Funny you mention that. That's what President Obama just ordered. From yestereday's Dallas Morning News...........<br />White House authorizes killing of radical cleric tied to Fort Hood suspect." 8:07pm<br /><br />I read that after I posted up here and I can tell you I think what the Feds just did is WRONG. If someone is an American citizen, the first course of action should always be capture then trial. Otherwise, we are no better than the USSR was. The Feds have not even asked for the assassination of Bin Laden.<br /><br />The number of people on Grits who think the solution to every problem is killing people, locking them up forever, and treating them as scum are no better than the people who are committing these crimes themselves. You are all thugs-you just think you are right because you are on the side of the law...well, your morality should be dictated by your conscious, not the current criminal code, especially when the current criminal code has shown to be so ineffective at crime prevention. <br /><br />Considering there are over a thousand (give or take) offenses in TX that can land you a felony charge and thousands more that will get you a misdemeanor it is probably safe to say many of you have walked around violating laws you did not even know existed. Better hope you don't get caught by someone as hardass and head headed as many of you seem to be.<br /><br />The killing of another human being should be avoided at all costs. It is not our place to take what we can not give. For the Feds to allow the assassination an American citizen, without a trial, justs opens the gate on a slippery slope. <br /><br />There are a group of people who will do drugs no matter what. Legalizing them is not going to create a generation or class of drug user that did not exist before. Prison populations would shrink, drug treatment programs would get more funding, and cops would have more time to catch people who are killing because the enjoy it, not because they are trying to make a fast buck or make a name for themselves in some gang.<br /><br />The way to raise a human being's estimation of themselves and put a stop to some of this violence is to treat them like a human being, not a piece of trash and not as some stupid piece of flesh. If you want a bad guy so start acting like a good guy, treat him like one. And before anyone starts yelling at me, I am not advocating we give all criminals a hug and set them on their way. We can treat them decently while we have them though and maybe, just maybe, when they get out of prison, as most do, they will have a little more faith in the fact they are a good person capable of good things.CharityLeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13803166437052095340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-23323463085284734662010-04-09T13:59:05.724-05:002010-04-09T13:59:05.724-05:00Is there any indication that some of the assassina...Is there any indication that some of the assassination contract and money might be outsourced to other ethnic gangs, including Anglos, and even corrupt prison guards, etc...?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08881780377500239190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-38649361062802394552010-04-09T13:52:16.407-05:002010-04-09T13:52:16.407-05:00Posted by Pirate.....These attract illegal immigra...Posted by Pirate.....These attract illegal immigrants, because even if they aren't elligible, their children will become citizens and they will be elligible.<br /><br />Illegal alien children are allowed to attend public schools because of the "equal protection clause" of the 14th amendement, you know Plyler v. Doe, or least said the SCOTUS. It does not matter that they are here illegally.<br /><br />According to Justice Brennan,The “constitutional right” of illegal aliens to public schooling at Americans’ expense is one of the many “implied rights.” <br /><br />Plyler was a class action suit brought on behalf of Mexican illegal aliens against the State of Texas, the Texas Education Agency and various Texas school districts. In its finding, the Supreme Court struck down a Texas statute withholding from local school districts any state funds for the education of children who were not legally admitted into the United States.<br /><br />And so it will be to with healthcare.....watch and see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-83855269798650206042010-04-09T10:29:51.915-05:002010-04-09T10:29:51.915-05:00"Slashing benefits to citizens today to harm ..."Slashing benefits to citizens today to harm the future children of non-citizens amounts to cutting off your nose to spite your face. It makes sense only when viewed through through a bizarre, narrow, and particularly angry lens."<br /><br />No anger Grits. I'm a believer in capitalism. Our current system gives us a high standard of living because part of the economy is still free. We could be much more if we would eliminate the programs that hold us back.<br /><br />Some of the conservatives in our state don't like immigration, I'm merely counseling them on ways to reduce immigration without spending money.PirateFriedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14490889950268741305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-12441652062696170402010-04-09T10:19:39.989-05:002010-04-09T10:19:39.989-05:00Pirate, they mostly come for JOBS, not the welfare...Pirate, they mostly come for JOBS, not the welfare state. By your logic, the best way to reduce immigration is to eliminate those, too! And guess what? It works! Illegal immigration plummeted when the economy went to hell.<br /><br />Slashing benefits to citizens today to harm the future children of non-citizens amounts to cutting off your nose to spite your face. It makes sense only when viewed through through a bizarre, narrow, and particularly angry lens.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-59505766810276016822010-04-09T09:54:32.532-05:002010-04-09T09:54:32.532-05:00Want to reduce immigration?
First work to get r...Want to reduce immigration? <br /><br />First work to get rid of the public school system and government health care programs. In fact, eliminate all programs for the poor.<br /><br />These attract illegal immigrants, because even if they aren't elligible, their children will become citizens and they will be elligible.<br /><br />We've got to have some perspective. Before we spend a mess of money on guards and border enforcement, let's try to stop wasting money on programs the encourage them to come here in the first place.PirateFriedmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14490889950268741305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-78649253982180241682010-04-09T08:57:19.572-05:002010-04-09T08:57:19.572-05:00Grits,
In case you haven't come across it thi...Grits,<br /><br />In case you haven't come across it this morning, the Houston Chronicle posted this story:<br /><br />http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/latinamerica/6951081.htmlUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04635306052293548869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-34109358409224373792010-04-09T07:56:31.447-05:002010-04-09T07:56:31.447-05:007:12, maybe you're the one who needs glasses b...7:12, maybe you're the one who needs glasses because you clearly didn't read the post you're commenting on.<br /><br />As for: "why are you opposed to helping Texas and Arizona border ranchers?"<br /><br />I'm not. However, you'd have to show me how what you suggest would be "helping." Texas deployed it's National Guard on the border for a time and all the immigration complainers kept complaining while the drug wars escalated with violence. Some Guardsmen were corrupt and <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331244,00.html" rel="nofollow">participated in smuggling</a>. That strategy failed and there's no evidence replicating it in Arizona would be "helping" anyone. It's just a waste of money on politicized grandstanding. National Guardsmen can't secure the border checkpoints; it's just a non-solution searching for a problem.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-10962499085728619992010-04-09T07:35:14.920-05:002010-04-09T07:35:14.920-05:00Perhaps you have me confused with 11:39am. BTW, w...Perhaps you have me confused with 11:39am. BTW, why are you opposed to helping Texas and Arizona border ranchers? Should the ranchers fend for themselves? What protection, if any, should the government afford border ranchers? None? Law enforcement? (Not enough to go around) Or yes, the National Guard?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-43083620367490795302010-04-09T07:12:57.477-05:002010-04-09T07:12:57.477-05:00Did you have a bad night, need glasses or what? I...Did you have a bad night, need glasses or what? I have no illusions about the NG being used as you say "to help the problem of AMERICANS committing mass murder in Mexico?" I don't even advocate that.<br /><br />I do have hopes and am like one of many of the Arizona and Texas ranchers who need help on our side and the NG can fit that bill.<br /><br />Been waiting for help for a long time on our side too!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-48950602759465398642010-04-09T05:53:51.611-05:002010-04-09T05:53:51.611-05:00What good exactly would the National Guard do to h...What good exactly would the National Guard do to help the problem of AMERICANS committing mass murder in Mexico?<br /><br />As for killing the drug runners, they can't even find the bigwigs to arrest them, much less shoot them. Good luck in your fantasy world.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-50675889052671198512010-04-08T21:56:33.386-05:002010-04-08T21:56:33.386-05:00I did not agree with the Nazi, however, when gangs...I did not agree with the Nazi, however, when gangs are so terrible, the state should with all its resourses, insure that all gang members involved in this type conduct are iniliated. Their families that allow this should also be killed. America is more important than these thugs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-73459304831801790952010-04-08T21:47:10.262-05:002010-04-08T21:47:10.262-05:00Prison gang members should be killed! If they care...Prison gang members should be killed! If they care so less of America...they should be killed. The country is more important than criminals/druggies/mexican idiots/and general users. Step up...kill a user/ anyone who undermines the USA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-2465858616438442282010-04-08T21:20:39.503-05:002010-04-08T21:20:39.503-05:00Prison gang members should be released.Prison gang members should be released.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-64552365775805929002010-04-08T20:07:40.634-05:002010-04-08T20:07:40.634-05:00Posted by CharityLee......Are you advocating the f...Posted by CharityLee......Are you advocating the feds just go out and start assassinating its own citizens because they have committed a criminal act? Throw out our entire judicial system? Scary scary.<br /><br />Funny you mention that. That's what President Obama just ordered. From yestereday's Dallas Morning News...........<br />White House authorizes killing of radical cleric tied to Fort Hood suspect<br /><br />http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/washington/stories/0407dnnatuskilling.44d8da3.html?plckFindCommentKey=CommentKey:59c08350-0c7b-46ec-87ae-59a36c1a94ca<br /><br /><br />Regarding spillover violence......<br /><br />I hope the recent murder of Arizona rancher Robert Krentz finally opens the eyes of the powers that be in Washington. Both political parties have allowed this to go on far too long. <br /><br />It's ironic that our Texas governor Perry has been calling on the Obama administration for weeks for deployment of the National Guard to curb border spillover violence and now John McCain, who has been flip flopping on the immigration problem, is now calling on the Obama adminsitration for help on the Arizona border as a result of the murder of Mr. Krantz.<br /><br />http://azstarnet.com/news/local/border/article_32642381-6314-53b4-aff1-570dbd1d6834.html<br /><br /><br />Comments by the President 03/12/2009 a year ago.<br /><br />http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=53458<br /><br />“We’re going to examine whether, and if, National Guard deployments would make sense and in what circumstances they would make sense as part of this overall review of our border situation,” Obama told reporters yesterday, according to media reports. The White House confirmed his comments, made during a media roundtable session. <br /><br />“I haven’t drawn any conclusions yet,” Obama said. “I don’t have a particular tipping point in mind.” <br /><br />While emphasizing that he does not want to “militarize” the border, Obama called it “unacceptable if you’ve got drug gangs crossing our borders and killing our citizens.” <br /><br />"I think if one U.S. citizen is killed because of foreign nationals who are engaging in violent crime, that's enough of a concern to do something about it," he said.<br /><br />Ok, Mr. President, it just happened. We are waiting!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-61964244092655880992010-04-08T15:04:47.241-05:002010-04-08T15:04:47.241-05:00No, the feds should take immediate action and lega...No, the feds should take immediate action and legalize marijuana and decriminalize small amount of all other drugs. Nothing to fight over if it's legal and the government will reap huge amounts of money it so desperately needs. <br /><br />A lot of these gang members are American citizens. Are you advocating the feds just go out and start assassinating its own citizens because they have committed a criminal act? Throw out our entire judicial system? Scary scary.CharityLeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13803166437052095340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-63511738053914838962010-04-08T11:39:37.495-05:002010-04-08T11:39:37.495-05:00The feds should take immediate action to kill as m...The feds should take immediate action to kill as many of these gangs memebers as they can.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com