tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post4447218967301789645..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Questions remain after TYC, juvie probation mergerGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-22793423639613555932011-06-09T16:10:43.065-05:002011-06-09T16:10:43.065-05:00You are right, kids are calling the hotline like c...You are right, kids are calling the hotline like crazy with little complaints. Get the call logs and look at how many BS calls go to TJPC and how many actually get investigated and confirmed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-90146380235678556242011-06-07T14:34:14.916-05:002011-06-07T14:34:14.916-05:00I think the legislature did address the standards ...I think the legislature did address the standards issue by voting on the merger and the creation of a board that can bring experience to the table. Don't know anything about Mike Meade but can tell you our county has kids that know how to play the hotline game to cause havoc over little items. It is a problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-37972952113991988522011-06-01T11:43:47.807-05:002011-06-01T11:43:47.807-05:007:38...hotline has not been near the doom and gloo...7:38...hotline has not been near the doom and gloom some feared it would be. Mike Meade even admitted that the other day. But my question is with your comment about standards, why for the last two sessions no one has brought a single request for legislative changes to the standards. <br /><br />Just wondering?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-8113076133078509652011-05-31T12:21:55.040-05:002011-05-31T12:21:55.040-05:00The all time best example of gaming the system was...The all time best example of gaming the system was what gangster and crack dealer Huey Newton did in California. Through constant manipulation and intimidation, he got the progressives at UC Santa Cruz to give him a Ph.D. He finagled a fake doctorate that same year (1980) from the University of California.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-7953891636279272702011-05-31T10:48:49.541-05:002011-05-31T10:48:49.541-05:00One of the time honored things the tyc culture tea...One of the time honored things the tyc culture teaches kids is how to “game the system”. This is not a bad thing. I am of the opinion that the ability to “game the system” if used for good is a good thing. I make sure my fellow alumni know this. Executives and sales people pay large sums of money to learn the techniques tyc teaches to kids by simply being in the tyc culture. These same techniques that the ignoramus would judge unfavorable with terms like “game the system”. A college education teaches one to study and pass test, going to collage helps in building networks of influential people. Having “game” populates bank accounts. All three make a kick ass alumni that will far outpace anything their former keepers could ever hope to accomplish. <br />If I had to choose anything positive that a kid receives from time in tyc, hands down top of the list would be the ability to game. This ability to game provides distinct advantages to that individual. The irony is the average ignorance in the tyc staff populous don’t get it. And even though they are in that culture day in and day out the best they can do is learn to cover for one another’s acts of cruelty to children. <br />However I do make it a point to tell the kids that gaming tyc staff, like a puffed up punk ass caseworker or a lowly supervisor is child’s play. I say to them to continue to build upon the skills you learned because when you get into the world of business you have to deal with smart savvy people.<br />Yes the one thing that remands a steadily constant across the decades of tyc culture like state sponsored child abuse, is a kid who spends time in tyc will develop the skill sets to game. And I’m confident that future kids in tyc will continue to learn that skill just like state sponsored child abuse will remain a constant in that environment as well.Sheldon tyc#47333https://www.blogger.com/profile/17236854879241753231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-77646862877764147402011-05-31T10:31:27.622-05:002011-05-31T10:31:27.622-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Sheldon tyc#47333https://www.blogger.com/profile/17236854879241753231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-91791232774725980242011-05-31T09:22:52.802-05:002011-05-31T09:22:52.802-05:00The new standards at TYC accomplish one thing - th...The new standards at TYC accomplish one thing - they allow the students to game the system. Was all this done on purpose?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-25445460218889497812011-05-31T07:38:36.037-05:002011-05-31T07:38:36.037-05:00Back on track. This merger will be a great thing ...Back on track. This merger will be a great thing for the state, don't care what Turner said. It is time for change and will be best to start from the tops of both agencies. The fear mongering that occurred after the WTSS incident sent a chain reaction to the bottom of the totum pole with new standards for TYC and TJPC (the field) that are senseless. Get back to reality and reduce some of the nonsencical requlations. Let's face it, we deal with kids that want to manipulate us and will mess with the system. Hotline calls are out of control with minor grievance issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-54567581559088696682011-05-26T22:11:14.441-05:002011-05-26T22:11:14.441-05:00Yeah we need Ranty to write another rag filled wit...Yeah we need Ranty to write another rag filled with grammer and thinking errors. Nice. I see he's talking to himself again. Good meds and therapy for it Ranty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-65842754184920863152011-05-26T14:18:10.070-05:002011-05-26T14:18:10.070-05:00Who has risen to the top and controls the culture?...Who has risen to the top and controls the culture?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-84480305824038229852011-05-26T10:53:28.279-05:002011-05-26T10:53:28.279-05:00From what I have seen, at TYC people have been pro...From what I have seen, at TYC people have been promoted because they kept their mouths shut. Some have been promoted because they were <br />directly involved in misconduct (and, they knew too much). All were expected to not rock the boat. Hey, it worked for years. Those who kept getting promoted again and again have now risen to the top and now control the TYC culture, such as it is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-14809044850409578902011-05-26T10:22:53.336-05:002011-05-26T10:22:53.336-05:00The two in 642 were also at WTSS and aware of Broo...The two in 642 were also at WTSS and aware of Brookins activities. One was a direct part and the other promoted to keep his mouth shut. Five others at WTSS were involved but too close to the activity to rock the boat. They all should have been prosecuted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-3539065943136046572011-05-25T21:37:02.837-05:002011-05-25T21:37:02.837-05:00The Superintendent at WTSS knew what Brookins was ...The Superintendent at WTSS knew what Brookins was doing, even when he was out on medical leave at his house, which is right outside the campus. This same person was promoted to a position in Austin and then was allowed to resign when these issues got to close to others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-73906971206346900912011-05-25T18:42:45.558-05:002011-05-25T18:42:45.558-05:00Tommy B and Bill H., were there and know about Bro...Tommy B and Bill H., were there and know about Brookings, but never would admit to what they knew. Thats why TB gets his posts pulled, he is so out of control and too close to Lydia while covering her butt. He is one of the worst of the group that allowed it to happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-37600523228104133512011-05-25T15:13:02.504-05:002011-05-25T15:13:02.504-05:00Sheldon,
I know what happened at WTSS, but I'm...Sheldon,<br />I know what happened at WTSS, but I'm curious about what led up to it. I've always thought that what happened at San Saba set things in motion and led up to the WTSS saga. Do you have any contacts who know what happened at San Saba from say 2000 to 2007 (when Lydia ran the place)? That part of the story has never been told and I believe it holds the key to understanding the TYC story. The staff who worked at San Saba would never talk, but some ex-students might.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-52546519337895705052011-05-25T13:23:51.150-05:002011-05-25T13:23:51.150-05:00Thanks Guys, but I couldn’t afford the pay cut. Ho...Thanks Guys, but I couldn’t afford the pay cut. However I would jump at a chance to be on the board. <br />Mr. Chances grammar is much better than mine. I had to take a special class for Engineering students in collage to pass Freshman English. That tyc education didn’t really prepare me as well for collage as it did to be an outlaw or a building tender. I’ll say this about the one book I’ve read by Mr. Chance, I couldn’t get through more than 5 or 6 pages without tears pouring from my eyes thinking about those poor children in the care of those horrible creatures. Those of us who have an inside knowledge of tyc are not the same as those who don’t. That’s tyc best cover, the atrocities committed by those monsters are just to unbelievable for people who haven’t been on the inside to believe and act on. Sadly Mr. Whitmire and Mr. Madden are only capable of doing legislative damage control. They should spend a week or two on a dorm, then they may really know what it’s like to have to lose.Sheldon tyc#47333https://www.blogger.com/profile/17236854879241753231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-59186572151735736752011-05-25T13:18:41.252-05:002011-05-25T13:18:41.252-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Sheldon tyc#47333https://www.blogger.com/profile/17236854879241753231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-91450527388715128512011-05-25T13:14:25.852-05:002011-05-25T13:14:25.852-05:00That great author of Raped by The State? I for one...That great author of Raped by The State? I for one, agree. Go for it. Tell it all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-69655637436620902362011-05-24T20:33:44.251-05:002011-05-24T20:33:44.251-05:00Sheldon needs to get a ghost writer (I suggest Ran...Sheldon needs to get a ghost writer (I suggest Randy Chance) to write and publish his memoirs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-14109766126974063142011-05-24T20:32:35.542-05:002011-05-24T20:32:35.542-05:00He is probably more qualified than the TYC thugs.He is probably more qualified than the TYC thugs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-62820814226068394622011-05-24T11:25:17.046-05:002011-05-24T11:25:17.046-05:00Sheldon for EDSheldon for EDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-79173989844143373412011-05-23T14:50:50.502-05:002011-05-23T14:50:50.502-05:00A reminder I posted here on Grits a while back tha...A reminder I posted here on Grits a while back that it would be a tell tale sign how fast this bill got pushed through. Compared to solutions to fix voter fraud where some legislators run and hide in another state. Precedence shows with each major public scandal regarding the State Training School, Texas youth Counsel, Texas Youth Commission there was a major upheaval of agency power at a cost to the tax payers. Gatesville was a perfectly good facility that was ordered closed to stop the child abuse. It was turned over to the Texas Department of Corrections to prevent investigations into the boys who are are still buried out there in unmarked graves. It should be obvious that this merger is an attempt to cover the widespread pedophilia that’s become common place with these team playas who oozed in like a plague over the last 4 decades. This is a smooth move in comparison to a public fact finding which could have an obvious potential to cause civil unrest and a public nuisance. Way to go Mr. Whitmire and Mr. Madden for slipping the tyc chester problem an Exlax.<br /><br />About anonymous posters, cut them some slack, if the best you could do is work for a government agency, you would be ashamed to put yourself out there too. It’s not like it was 50 years ago where one person without a computer could do the job that takes 3 or 4 today with a computer! Been to register a vehicle lately? Just an example of providing excuses for the lazy factor in today’s government hires there were policies created in tyc where it now takes 3 team playas to watch as many boys as one hillbilly did in Gatesville. And these chesters still complain how scary it is to hold a dorm. All I can say is its going to be a great time for a kid to be committed to tyc where they will get to work on improving their thug lifestyle. Just like the 70’s were in Gatesville.Sheldon tyc#47333https://www.blogger.com/profile/17236854879241753231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-57780589626303876172011-05-23T13:00:44.862-05:002011-05-23T13:00:44.862-05:00OK. Since the gov has signed this bill I assume i...OK. Since the gov has signed this bill I assume it takes effect Sept 1.?? What does TJPC and TYC do in the meantime as lame ducks?? Does TJPC continue their monitoring schedule?? Does the new board take over September 1 with the transition team? Will the current administrations "jockey" for positions? Will funding remain steady? Lots of questions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-88213307348841912672011-05-23T09:22:41.917-05:002011-05-23T09:22:41.917-05:00"Remember, it is the juveniles across the sta..."Remember, it is the juveniles across the state we are talking about here. Not statistics. The kids are harder to manipulate than the statistics."<br /><br />YOU are exactly right. Let's not loose our focus. Enough with the Randy Turner/Mike Meade/Vicki Spriggs/Cherie Townsend bashing. The youth of Texas deserve our attention, not personalities. Turner and Meade are both very well respected in the field even if they don't see eye to eye. Both current ED's deserve a chance at the new agency. I do not envy the new board in choosing one but I do hope they remember why we are here and that is rehabilitating delinquents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-67740109288148799682011-05-23T07:18:40.033-05:002011-05-23T07:18:40.033-05:00Neither TJPC nor TYC is set to take the lead and I...Neither TJPC nor TYC is set to take the lead and I hope neither one tries. The new board should decide the fate of all the top cronies at each agency.<br />Mike Meade would sure shake things up but he is smart enough not to even consider the ED job while others across the state think they are capable of running the new agency.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com