tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post4569477197257772826..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: FISA court gave NSA authority to monitor local phone call dataGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-48289495986968249892013-06-08T20:58:02.217-05:002013-06-08T20:58:02.217-05:00So what exactly is the problem here?
A few weeks ...So what exactly is the problem here?<br /><br />A few weeks ago everyone was bitching about the 'stove piping' of intelligence from Russia who told us the Tsaernev brothers might be radical and therefore could have prevent the Boston Marathon Bombings.<br /><br />Now we're worried that the NSA might be sharing their intelligence with domestic law enforcement to prosecute crimes beyond the terrorism mandate, right?<br /><br />Then ask for a law specifically prohibiting those activities if you really think it's a problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-58852896706227970512013-06-07T22:51:43.104-05:002013-06-07T22:51:43.104-05:00personaly considering this is supossed to be a rep...personaly considering this is supossed to be a republic one person one vote. Where the govt get's it's power from us. I don't consider any SECRET order legal no matter who issues it. The same goes for so-called "unpublished" or "unsigned" orders from judges.<br /><br /><br />Anyone issuing or supporting such should be removed as the treasnous little nazi wannabee's they are!rodsmithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-63325131859224009852013-06-07T15:56:49.535-05:002013-06-07T15:56:49.535-05:00Houston Chronicle, Friday, June 7, 2013 (1984): Te...Houston Chronicle, Friday, June 7, 2013 (1984): Texas lawmakers complain about domestic spying, but most voted to allow it<br /><br />"A lot of Republicans in the Texas delegation are griping today about the NSA’s domestic surveillance program. But over the past decade — in a series of five votes — very few current GOP members of the Texas congressional delegation have voted against requests by Presidents Bush or Obama to increase federal government power over Internet data and phone records.<br /> <br />Only one current member of the Texas delegation — Sheila Jackson Lee of Houston — can say she has never voted for expanded FISA powers."<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-65763259157365052112013-06-07T11:04:58.252-05:002013-06-07T11:04:58.252-05:00Already Hillary and other government spokespersons...Already Hillary and other government spokespersons are reminding us that they, our government, are "preventing future Boston bombings." However, they didn't prevent the last one! And we now know this abuse of power is not new. <br />I would repeat the warning that giving up your civil rights in the name of "protection" will result in losing both!! (I know I'm paraphrasing B. Franklin)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-62897860285846812162013-06-07T08:43:09.890-05:002013-06-07T08:43:09.890-05:00@ An Attorney, it's not true that a separate &...@ An Attorney, it's not true that a separate "warrant" is required for the mining. They don't have to demonstrate probable cause and instead are reportedly using sealed orders based on a "reasonable suspicion" standard to access the database.<br /><br />In that light, it's disingenuous to refer to them complying with the Fourth Amendment, which deals in probable cause and warrants. That's not what's going on here.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-59869868736773446832013-06-07T05:46:49.517-05:002013-06-07T05:46:49.517-05:00There is a difference between collecting and prese...There is a difference between collecting and preserving the massive data set and mining it. If a separate warrant is required for the mining, and that has to be specific, then there is less to be concerned about this. However, it is important to verify that the mining is limited to targets in order to comply with the Fourth AmendmentAn Attorneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-57276097044159068942013-06-06T18:54:06.487-05:002013-06-06T18:54:06.487-05:00Here's another good article describing this: h...Here's another good article describing this: http://www.yourhoustonnews.com/courier/news/what-you-should-know-about-nsa-phone-data-program/article_833c072e-eac4-53d5-ba5c-1646a56d859b.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-65682346209412126062013-06-06T09:09:13.404-05:002013-06-06T09:09:13.404-05:00I assume that AT&T and other phone service pro...I assume that AT&T and other phone service providers also turn over the same type data to the NSA. Also, all email (at least from-to), web browsing, etc. <br /><br />For a measured reaction please see Orin Kerr's blog entry at the Volokh Conspiracy. He observes that only the 3-page FISA order was revealed, but the context is still unknown. See http://tinyurl.com/loejnl6<br /><br />Sorry for the tiny url, but the blog post url was simply too long.<br /><br />BTW, Kerr also speculates on possibly more extensive dragnet searches under the Computer Crime law than just evidence gathering for a specific computer crime.<br />JohnTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-8361228231333094972013-06-06T08:46:48.366-05:002013-06-06T08:46:48.366-05:00Anyone with any sense knew the Patriot Act would l...Anyone with any sense knew the Patriot Act would lead to this type of abuse. And it really has nothing to do with terrorists, and it isn't a republican or democrat thing, it's government vs citizens thing. Maybe this will end the political divide and unite all of us against our government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-31675531919836301772013-06-06T08:03:08.742-05:002013-06-06T08:03:08.742-05:00This is the last straw! It's time to impeach B...This is the last straw! It's time to impeach Bush!!! Huh? What did you say??? :-) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com