tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post6326881713736151530..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Free speech, voting, other rights reinstated for ex-felons; after Heller, why not gun ownership?Gritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-71260398990764984942014-04-15T18:12:39.022-05:002014-04-15T18:12:39.022-05:00I say ten years! 10 years of being good after you ...I say ten years! 10 years of being good after you have been off paper and you get your gun rights back automatically! Because lets face it if your a real screw up you will never make 10 years with out getting into trouble. It shouldn't matter what the crime is, it's the 10 years that shows the ability to stay out of trouble. A crazy murderer or sex offender would never make it 10 years after parole with out repeating the crime, and if they want to get legal owning a weapon again then that's incentive to be good. No one should be a victim not even people who have made others victims. Don't be surprised if it's the ex-con sex offender who shoots the man raping your daughter!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-25268568068115865422013-05-12T21:38:38.681-05:002013-05-12T21:38:38.681-05:00Former marine,
I served my country willing to die ...Former marine,<br />I served my country willing to die for it and still would. I can't stand the way our government has become, card carrying commie in the white house, not to mention the sorry one there now. I commited a white collar crime. tried to get it deffered, however they wanted to hang me. it was not intentional, never the less I was guilty. I have hunted for many years. My daughter aged 10 this year killed her first deer and I could not be there. It's a disgrace that I can't teach her things she needs and loves to do , as well as be a part of that with her. <br />Even though a crime is a crime, that doesn't mean that anyone who commits a crime is unstable and incapable of possing a firearm. Someone please explaine the logic of these crazy laws that have been put in to place ??? I say its to rid our country of as many legally possessed guns as possible.<br /><br />can someone please tell me how to get my full rights restored?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388681794534022054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-62775290435701019032013-05-12T21:35:53.816-05:002013-05-12T21:35:53.816-05:00Former marine,
I served my country willing to die ...Former marine,<br />I served my country willing to die for it and still would. I can't stand the way our government has become, card carrying commie in the white house, not to mention the sorry one there now. I commited a white collar crime. tried to get it deffered, however they wanted to hang me. it was not intentional, never the less I was guilty. I have hunted for many years. My daughter aged 10 this year killed her first deer and I could not be there. It's a disgrace that I can't teach her things she needs and loves to do , as well as be a part of that with her. <br />Even though a crime is a crime, that doesn't mean that anyone who commits a crime is unstable and incapable of possing a firearm. Someone please explaine the logic of these crazy laws that have been put in to place ??? I say its to rid our country of as many legally possessed guns as possible.<br /><br />can someone please tell me how to get my full rights restored?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388681794534022054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-80960576790582994242012-05-22T01:46:42.273-05:002012-05-22T01:46:42.273-05:00I'm a Drilling consultant. According to the m...I'm a Drilling consultant. According to the major oil company I work for I can decide on a whim and sign a work order or tool order for up to 2 million dollars. I was convicted twice of forgery. Once I did it the second time I was caught in an online scam. Of course with a prior conviction they didn't care. Neither felony was above a state jail level.... in Texas that's a new felony level below third degree but just above a misdemeanor. .... Icant have a fire arm. My dad is a federal police officer an has been a peace officer for 48 years. I can't even go inside his house. Not from him .... but according to the LAW. People its time to revamp the classification system an exclude non violent crimes from a lot of checks. I have an unrestrained 2 million dollar signature. But I can't shoot a deer with my son. And its too iffy if someone breaks in my home to hurt my family for myself to own a weapon to help them. I grew up shooting. Have several medals showing my excellent aptitude on a firing range and papework showing scenario shooting from the NAVY. I'm a Vet with a non violent crime. Where's my Right to bear arms?Hung onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11606711629164867423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-87649977619802308082009-04-13T14:49:00.000-05:002009-04-13T14:49:00.000-05:00Today I'm 40. When I was 17 I stole a car stereo f...Today I'm 40. When I was 17 I stole a car stereo from a dealership. Never did anything else against the law. Is it right that all these years later I can't get my CHL? That I can't protect my family while we're out and about?<BR/><BR/>Sure wish something would change on this front, as I know I'm not the only one amongst us who screwed up as a kid. <BR/><BR/>Not to mention the difficulties I have with job searches. You'd think I was a mass murderer with the way employers run when I answer yes to the felony question. But I digress.Mikeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-35668249343289514522008-08-24T22:04:00.000-05:002008-08-24T22:04:00.000-05:00o.k. jefferson said ,a country that fears its gove...o.k. jefferson said ,a country that fears its goverment is teirney,,,and goverment that fears the people is liberty..I am a ex felon..did time from 84 to 87....I still took my son hunting and fishing,,and never told him of my past till he was 16....I rasied a man not a boy..it blew his mind I did time..and said he was glad he didn,t know till then,,because he knows his dad now and it makes no evermind...he,s now a lcpl in the marines..can,t buy a beer or buy a hand gun..yet their taught since 9/11..they are moving targets..even taught not to hold a child while in uniform.puts them in danger....jefferson also said the safest this country will ever be is a malitia with squirral guns...good men sometimes do bad things..let the people dicide not the gov.who they are....I don,t mean to snub my goverment..I do belive in a land of laws not men..but I refuse to let them decide how to do this or that..their not there to be in my life ,,just run the books to my country....hell a ex-felon can,t get a job driving the city bus .or weedeating the city park..my greatx3 grandaddy fought in the R.W.my daughter a D.A.R. they refused to be told this and that..and I the same...I love God and country.but I only fear one ,,,,,,GodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-65477367833538167962008-08-12T23:31:00.000-05:002008-08-12T23:31:00.000-05:00If the Bill of Rights is legitimate and substantia...<B>If</B> the Bill of Rights is legitimate and substantial, then <B>ALL</B> gun control legislation is <I>unconstitutional</I> and <I>illegal</I>. Regardless of whose fears they may ease.<BR/><BR/>As for convicted felons [of any stripe] possessing a gun [of any kind...] If you're <B>afraid</B> of facing one of these "animals," then possess and operate a gun of your own, just in case. Afterall, it's your <B>inalienable</B> and <B>uninfringable</B> RIGHT!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-39667003854535150562008-07-19T16:44:00.000-05:002008-07-19T16:44:00.000-05:00I’ve just read an AP story on Yahoo News that says...I’ve just read an AP story on Yahoo News that says a fellow by name of James Francis Barton Jr. is planning to challenge the federal law that (as far as the 2nd Amendment is concerned) makes a person a felon for life if that person is ever in his life convicted of a felony crime.<BR/><BR/>It is alleged that several firearms were discovered in Barton’s home and as a result he has subsequently been charged with the federal charge of Felon in Possession of a Firearm.<BR/><BR/>Barton is claiming that even though he has been convicted of 2 felonies in the past, the recent U.S. Supreme Court’s DC v Heller decision allows him to keep firearms in his home for self defense purposes. He insists that an individual who has completed his felony sentence and has been freed should have the same right to defend his life, his loved ones, and his property as do all other people. <BR/><BR/>One of the interesting concepts mentioned in the AP story is that apparently once an individual is convicted of a felony, the federal government considers that person to be “untrustworthy” for the rest of his life no matter; how long ago the felony was committed, how inconsequential that felony may have been, or even if what the individual did is no longer a felony offense. If these people are so evil, nefarious, and untrustworthy why does the state; release them from prison, allow them to vote, allow them a drivers license, allow them free movement, allow them free exercise of religion and free speech when their sentence is completed?<BR/><BR/>If a person is such a sociopath, and/or evil individual that he cannot ever be trusted to exercise all his fundamental rights protected by the Constitution he should never be freed from prison in the first place. If he is not to be included in the Constitution’s phrase “the people” he should never be allowed to mingle with “the people”. I’m sure there must still be a place where these folks may be placed (maybe Manhattan or some other island paradise, like Gitmo) so that the rest of us will not have to resort to branding, amputation, embroidered stars to be worn on clothing, or some other readily recognizable signs of social stigma in efforts to further distance ourselves from these unclean creatures. <BR/><BR/>Grits,<BR/>As this - "Free speech, voting, other rights reinstated for ex-felons; after Heller, why not gun ownership?" - discussion has been moved to the bottom of you Blogpile I am also entering this same post on a couple of my favorite pro-gun blogs.W W Woodwardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13326046112820327760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-73818311123977228742008-07-17T16:45:00.000-05:002008-07-17T16:45:00.000-05:00There is an interesting video diary that this guy ...There is an interesting video diary that this guy has done - has some interesting perspectives about the guns, oil, the economy, etc.<BR/><BR/>http://www.shootandrunproductions.com/rsrt2gallery4.htm<BR/><BR/>Regards.....Miss Sunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16603721331573416802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-16028782863937900702008-07-15T11:07:00.000-05:002008-07-15T11:07:00.000-05:00There are too many felonies. Keeping a fish that ...There are too many felonies. Keeping a fish that is 1/2" too short or too long is a federal felony! <BR/><BR/>There are some really scary people who should be locked up for a long long time. There may be people who need to be supervised and controlled throughout their lifetimes. But currently, our system is stupid and unbalanced in terms of crime and punishment. There was a time when gambling was illegal. Now it's run by the state. Let's get rid of the malam prohibitum type crimes. Let's get tougher on the crimes that hurt others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-54794403310531817502008-07-15T07:50:00.000-05:002008-07-15T07:50:00.000-05:00Regardless of what Justice Scalia said, SCOTUS doe...Regardless of what Justice Scalia said, SCOTUS does not consider the 2nd Amendment to be a "fundamental right". Regrdless of the hoopla, all 9 justices agreed the word "infringed" has no validity. Which begs the question: Since the definition of infringed is the same today as it was in the 18th century when the Bill of Rights was ratified, exactly what part of "shall not be infringed" remains unclear, even to hypocrites in black robes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-46405841985202586572008-07-09T19:14:00.000-05:002008-07-09T19:14:00.000-05:00It's about time a felon becomes an ex-felon once h...It's about time a felon becomes an ex-felon once he serves the statutory sentence for his crime. <BR/><BR/>As it stands today once someone is convicted of a felony he receives a life sentence no matter the severity of the crime and no matter the statutory punishment for the specific crime. The question here hinges upon the right to keep and bear arms lost as result of a felony conviction<BR/><BR/>Some of you may not realize, not only does the felon lose his Second Amendment rights – so, to a certain degree, do his family and friends. The felon is forbidden to visit in a friend or relative’s home where firearms are kept. The felon cannot possess a key to his grandfather’s (or anyone else’s) home if the grandfather keeps a firearm in the house. The felon’s spouse cannot own a gun and keep it in the house where she and the felon live. It may be that a felon’s spouse cannot own a firearm, period, if they live in a community property state (Texas). The felon cannot go shopping with his family if they intend to go to a Walmart where firearms are displayed and/or sold. The list of prohibited acts goes on and on. The Texas statute allowing a felon to keep a firearm in his home five years after his sentence has expired carries no weight with the feds.<BR/><BR/>While I’m on my rant: <BR/><BR/>A misdemeanor conviction at any time in your life of any level of an assault, from a mere threat to an actual injury causing action, no matter the severity of the injury (a slap, a shove, a punch, merely restraining someone to keep him from harming you, spanking your child) that can in any way be construed as being directed against a family member will result in the cancellation of your 2nd amendment rights and a felony conviction if the feds catch you with a firearm. <BR/><BR/>If you’re under a protective order as a result of a divorce being filed and you possess a firearm in your home or anywhere around your person your 2nd Amendment rights have been suspended and you’re committing a felony.<BR/><BR/>If you think I’m exaggerating, ask one of your BATFE acquaintances if what I’ve said here is true.W W Woodwardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13326046112820327760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-66962313361286255722008-07-09T11:09:00.000-05:002008-07-09T11:09:00.000-05:00I was convicted of a non violent felony in 1986 (m...I was convicted of a non violent felony in 1986 (marijuana). Have not re-offended. When will my punishment end? Felons are serving in our military right now. Why? because the armed services can not meet recruitment goals. Odd that we can trust a felon with a gun while they are in the military but when they are discharged the government wants to take back their gun rights! I will bet that there will be a time when non violent felons gun rights are restored. <BR/><BR/>- Felon in North CarolinaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-75019774161322648262008-07-09T09:17:00.000-05:002008-07-09T09:17:00.000-05:00To all of you getting high and mighty about this t...To all of you getting high and mighty about this topic, let me ask something... Does a felon retain his right to self-defense? Consider this... Joe Bankrobber robs a bank (duh...), rapes a teller and then shoots him (he's a demented criminal, what did you expect?), gets caught and does 30 years hard time. <BR/><BR/>When he's finally paid his debt to society and is released he takes two steps out the prison gates and is accosted by muggers. Does this felon not have the right to defend himself? If he fought the muggers off and injured or killed them in the process, wouldn't he still have a self-defense case to make? <BR/><BR/>Defending one's self and one's loved ones from imminent harm is an unenumerated, inalienable right and is protected by the 9th amendment. If those who would do one harm are armed, isn't it right to take up arms to defend one's self from them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-32433894773738765412008-07-09T02:25:00.000-05:002008-07-09T02:25:00.000-05:00That's a very valid point. And I'd just like to t...That's a very valid point. And I'd just like to throw in my little two cents. Isn't it a liberal ideal that we "rehabilitate" our criminals? How do we rehabilitate if we make them effectively outcasts and "not people" in some respects after the punis...er..rehabilitation? I know one individual case where a person made a mistake, 18 years ago, and has truly lived a normal decent life since his release. I'd rather see him with a gun in his hands then a lot of "city slicker politicians". I trust him more, at least. How did we ever survive before the GCA of 1968, when felons were presumably allowed to order guns from the Sears & Roebuck catalog? (OOPS! my sarcasm slipped out).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-15262194758054162892008-07-06T19:15:00.000-05:002008-07-06T19:15:00.000-05:00In reference to Plato: 7/05/2008 02:41:00 PM Wel...In reference to Plato: 7/05/2008 02:41:00 PM Well, it appears your "Sometimes you lefties, cause people, hand-wringers, moon walkers, and spoon-benders just send my eyes in perpetual motion." Is the opinion of someone who desires not only continual punishment but a backwards and unconstitutional foundation of unspoken prejudice. Not only to mention your perverse dialect "full of s00" versus an intelligent debate of views and opinions...Well, you definitely only go by "Plato" because you lack the originality to construe your own destiny or name. Which also aligns with the lack of knowledge that SCOTUS just declared gun ownership a "right" about two weeks ago. And eventually, a felon will obtain a professional license....I would bank your redneck on it. Not judging...just observing by your actions. So, as the times are changing and the innocent are being set free, rights are being restored...slowly or not...they are being restored....I entrust a person who has made a mistake, will be granted the "same opprotunities" as their peers. So, educate yourself and come out from behind your sheet and defend the defenseless...that may be the one you need when you are in trouble. PS - Have a great day!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-41355766022640109302008-07-05T18:14:00.000-05:002008-07-05T18:14:00.000-05:00Grits - bet you a hundy the SC doesn't extend said...Grits - bet you a hundy the SC doesn't extend said right (guns) to felons.<BR/><BR/>PlatoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-25720438581766760982008-07-05T17:34:00.000-05:002008-07-05T17:34:00.000-05:00"If denying the rights you mentioned were unconsti..."If denying the rights you mentioned were unconstitutional, don't you think by now they would have been challenged and restored by the courts?"<BR/><BR/>Uh ... Plato ... SCOTUS just declared gun ownership a "right" about two weeks ago. Give it some time! That's what Ted Olsen was talking about. Some of the precedents your assumptions rely on may not be true any longer after Heller.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-1806746748531912552008-07-05T14:41:00.000-05:002008-07-05T14:41:00.000-05:0005:54 - you are full of shit! If denying the righ...05:54 - you are full of shit! If denying the rights you mentioned were unconstitutional, don't you think by now they would have been challenged and restored by the courts? Sometimes you lefties, cause people, hand-wringers, moon walkers, and spoon-benders just send my eyes in perpetual motion.<BR/><BR/>PlatoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-22012107318628031192008-07-05T05:54:00.000-05:002008-07-05T05:54:00.000-05:00Texas Blues Man: In response to your wording...yo...Texas Blues Man: In response to your wording...you are incorrect a convicted felon can vote and their are certain "rights" that should be reafforded to them. I guess I should tell you to "cast the first stone" because you have never done anything. As for practicing law or getting licenses - a convicted felon should be able to still do that...they still have the "right to pursue happiness". I hope one does go to court for "life (included the right to practice law), liberty (to be free from minimum wage jobs when they have worked for a license) and the pursuit of happiness (if defending some is happy for them - defend on). To deny these licenses and rights are constitutional violations especially if they have successfully "did their time and finsihed their parole or probation." To continually punish is "cruel and unusual". Please~! Would some felon go to court on this????????????????? Most of the legislature and even attorneys and police officers have done wrong...plea bargained down or it was dismissed for strange reasons...they are the ones that need prosecution, dismissed from office. A former felon would be the best defense attorney...they will know the system, they will know their client and they will know the actions..........defend onAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-77185456905135420222008-07-04T18:20:00.000-05:002008-07-04T18:20:00.000-05:00Felons don't have a right to possess a firearm, do...Felons don't have a right to possess a firearm, don't have a right to practice law, don't have a right to vote, don't have the right to serve on a jury, etc.<BR/><BR/>No problem.<BR/><BR/>Get convicted of a felony, loss of a right to have a gun goes with it.TxBluesManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15008395777633969757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-59561841983071150792008-07-04T17:14:00.000-05:002008-07-04T17:14:00.000-05:00This is a thread where I think most of you people ...This is a thread where I think most of you people have taken leave of your senses. Wow! Just wow!!<BR/><BR/>PlatoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-61647158365243723802008-07-04T16:29:00.000-05:002008-07-04T16:29:00.000-05:00Wow! I am impressed! There are people in Texas who...Wow! I am impressed! There are people in Texas who have hearts. I had begun to think no one cared and if you ever get convicted one time, even a Deferred Adjudication, which is by law Texas Criminal Code 42.12 not a conviction, try getting this off your record. Our courts are in shambles and unfortunately, our Legisators have and continue to let this go on. <BR/><BR/>Maybe it is time to make big changes in Legislators and get some of the lawyers and those who have been bought by lawyers out of the Legislature. That is not a life time job but some think it is. Term limits would take care of that and also set term limits for the Governor and Lt. Governor, this might be just the beginning but it would be a start. What do you think?? Remember, those in the Legislature are not going to take this upon themselves, we need to boost this along.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-86240878261486682992008-07-04T16:15:00.000-05:002008-07-04T16:15:00.000-05:00gcgkhhpxxWhat influences my position is the fact t...gcgkhhpxxWhat influences my position is the fact that the first act of a tyrant is to confiscate arms of the citizenry. Smuggling arms into the threatened ghettoes of Europe was the highest form of heroism.<BR/><BR/>Gun registration is the next threat to liberty. Who would have access to the list?<BR/><BR/>REAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-43272200732390995152008-07-04T15:46:00.000-05:002008-07-04T15:46:00.000-05:00Grits, What you are misplaced about here is yes, t...Grits, <BR/><BR/>What you are misplaced about here is yes, there are certain incontrovertible constitutional rights that are afforded once a conviction, or time thereof, has lapsed. But the hypocritical and self damning judicial system, especially in Texas, is hypocritical. Systems, even for ex-offenders – non-violent are not reinstated in action…only in word. Take for instance, a felon that has been not been in any trouble, maybe a traffic speeding ticket, since they paroled in 1995…get them on the stand to stand witness for someone and the first thing a prosecutor does is what? CREDIBILITY YOUR HONOR – unless it will benefit them. (Crooked witness testimony from a felon). The places that sell guns, paperwork processed but a denial is inevitable…because of the felony conviction.<BR/><BR/>And let’s not forget…even in the recent case of Waller…most people plea, even in understanding of significant blamelessness because they do not want to take the likelihood of a longer sentence or even the simple humiliation for their families. I too, am a complete avenger for the underdog…but the Pharaohs’ in this story, especially Texas – have sealed their fate with the corruption and double standards they implement and yet do wrong themselves. <BR/><BR/>Most prominently, in alliance with you, a criminal weather convicted or not….if he/she were to remain “the criminal”…they really do not care what the law says….obviously…that is why they are the “criminal”. But a conviction doesn’t mean criminal….a conviction means either plead, scared, minority or innocent or found guilty by a jury who didn’t examine all the facts….or a judge who was equally as crooked as the convicted criminal. Um, guess I would have to invite them to my house to use the gun if I were determined to use it? Please, who is going to do that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com