tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post6722832620318719009..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: DPS commander coached law-enforcement witnesses, says 5th Circuit opinionGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-48369174612557446362009-08-04T14:59:25.711-05:002009-08-04T14:59:25.711-05:00This constant advocation for anarchy is disgusting...This constant advocation for anarchy is disgusting. Welcome to the USA, the land of irresponsibility. "It's not my fault" is the new motto.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-70011777545533805722009-08-04T13:33:26.431-05:002009-08-04T13:33:26.431-05:00Well, the locals have it a lot better than the sta...Well, the locals have it a lot better than the state police do. At DPS, for example, your "due process" consists of a two-hour hearing before the Public Safety Commission, after which the person who fired you eats lunch with the commissioners behind closed doors.Don Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15297382689845965952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-34804086130756600602009-08-04T12:45:24.562-05:002009-08-04T12:45:24.562-05:00Don Dickson said...
Boyness, take this from a...Don Dickson said...<br /><br /> Boyness, take this from a police labor lawyer....police officers get fired all the time. Often enough in just one department to pay my rent and all my bills.<br /><br /> 8/04/2009 10:30:00 AM<br />----------------------------------<br />Wow Don you must really see the REAL bad apples. I have law enforcement connections who have described the due process for firing cops as heavily favoring the officers.Hook Em Hornshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660612847019528535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-1361394505100379502009-08-04T10:30:06.163-05:002009-08-04T10:30:06.163-05:00Boyness, take this from a police labor lawyer....p...Boyness, take this from a police labor lawyer....police officers get fired all the time. Often enough in just one department to pay my rent and all my bills.Don Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15297382689845965952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-31950522159546713202009-08-03T22:59:20.899-05:002009-08-03T22:59:20.899-05:00Get over it, Boyness.Get over it, Boyness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-82102742934182383682009-08-03T22:32:19.692-05:002009-08-03T22:32:19.692-05:00Police held to a standard? Please! You cannot fire...Police held to a standard? Please! You cannot fire them, you cannot discipline them. They are an entity unto themselves. A very dangerous entity.<br /><br />We really have no idea what these "people" get away with in the performance of there "duties".Hook Em Hornshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660612847019528535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-18375026916520086982009-08-01T11:09:54.391-05:002009-08-01T11:09:54.391-05:00Police need to be held to an EVEN HIGHER standard ...Police need to be held to an EVEN HIGHER standard then the citizens they police. Why does that even need to be said? Who wouldn't advocate constant monitoring of the people we empower to deprive us of our freedoms and even our very lives? It disturbs me that there is ever a question about leo ethics (and there's ALWAYS a question, these days), this is not how a police by consent society ought to be run. If you can't rely on ethical conduct by an officer of the law, then that person should not be accorded the privilege of enforcing the law. Period.R. Shacklefordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-69649077613955842832009-08-01T09:29:47.547-05:002009-08-01T09:29:47.547-05:00What a great post from 10:24!What a great post from 10:24!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-84500049752499735802009-08-01T01:05:37.707-05:002009-08-01T01:05:37.707-05:00Anon 10:24,
How dare you question the conduct of ...Anon 10:24,<br /><br />How dare you question the conduct of the police! You are hereby charged with Disorderly Conduct.<br /><br />Signed/James Crowley (467) :~)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-25094382780194313202009-07-31T23:28:38.967-05:002009-07-31T23:28:38.967-05:00What else is new?What else is new?Hook Em Hornshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660612847019528535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-13353241701021131562009-07-31T22:24:58.238-05:002009-07-31T22:24:58.238-05:00I can't help but disagree with last couple of ...I can't help but disagree with last couple of comments by Anonymous (9:40 pm). <br /><br />Police deserve greater scrutiny and accountability -- they carry guns, may use lethal force, and have arrest powers that can dramatically change your life and mine. Calling them on issues that reflect basic legal and constitutional concerns is not an attack on police. It is part the dialog that makes a free society free.<br /><br />While those offering the criticism should strive to be as fair and informed as possible, whether police offices feel that the criticism is fair and informed is largely irrelevant. The most important issue is how the public view what the police have done and feel about their actions. <br /><br />The meaning of policing in a free society is determined one interaction and response at a time as individual patrol officers deal with each call for service. If a substantial proportion of those interactions with citizens are perceived as demonstrating uncaring attitudes, reactive response, excessive force, demeaning, racist views, poor judgement, misuse of authority, unethical practice, immoral actions, or criminal conduct the police (or at least some officers) have become another street gang wearing blue colors. <br /><br />Openness to criticism -- is often difficult for police officers and agencies to hear but it is at the heart of a mutually respectful relationship between police and the community. This blog and its readers are dedicated to equitable justice, honest policy formation, public accountability, and open discussion of complex justice related issues -- all of which can be a bit unconfortable for criminal justice officials at any level. They need to be less sensitive and more focused on understanding the nature of the criticism, considering how they might work more effectively with the community, and implementing changes in policy and training.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-80064507147793119902009-07-31T22:10:36.255-05:002009-07-31T22:10:36.255-05:00Read the opinion for yourself, 9:40. Rodriguez is ...Read the opinion for yourself, 9:40. Rodriguez is the person who did the alleged witness "coaching" that the attorneys were sanctioned for. I didn't misstate a thing. It's in the ruling.<br /><br />I agree the 5th Circuit didn't rule on whether Rodriquez's testimony was false (I never said otherwise), though the district judge believed that it was. Here's a direct quote from the opinion: "Rodriguez’s false testimony, the court found, concerned his purpose for meeting with Foose, Rocha, and Shattuck on the eve of their depositions."<br /><br />What's more, the 5th DID sustain the sanction for witness coaching, and Rodriguez's actions were central to that allegation.<br /><br />Finally, I provided the link so readers can see for themselves whether I've mischaracterized the opinion. Just saying I'm "wrong" with no specifics doesn't make it true when the plain text of the ruling contradicts you.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-46393539581343303412009-07-31T21:40:20.929-05:002009-07-31T21:40:20.929-05:00Grits,
Your article misstates the ruling. Whethe...Grits,<br /><br />Your article misstates the ruling. Whether Albert Rodriguez gave false testimony or coached witnesses was not an issue in the appeal.<br /><br />The issue was whether the two attorneys committed attorney misconduct. The appeals court found that the police officers were coached improperly as to two phrases - retaliation and high-crime area. They found that the attorneys did not condone false testimony and vacated the sanctions. <br /><br />Whether Rodriguez gave false testimony was not an issue before the court, and they did not rule on whether the testimony was in fact false.<br /><br />I personally know Albert Rodriguez and he is an honorable man. If you are right, he'll back you. If you are wrong, he'll testify against you. Ask the officers in Irving he testified against.<br /><br />Your hatred of police is apparent. Maybe the fact that Mike Sheffield outsmarted you on the review board in Austin still smarts, or maybe you got a ticket, I don't know. But your constant attacks on police are wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-83642532192082027132009-07-31T13:43:03.244-05:002009-07-31T13:43:03.244-05:00I meant to ask if any future testimony in any case...I meant to ask if any future testimony in any case could be impeached?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-60325191095191616242009-07-31T13:37:13.125-05:002009-07-31T13:37:13.125-05:00Thanks for this story.Thanks for this story.Multi Squashnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-60926478081496016952009-07-31T13:35:56.733-05:002009-07-31T13:35:56.733-05:00Can any of his testimony as an expert witness be i...Can any of his testimony as an expert witness be impeached based upon this ruling?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-38232814316730388552009-07-31T13:19:48.328-05:002009-07-31T13:19:48.328-05:00Don't be disappointed, in New York, the D.A. a...Don't be disappointed, in New York, the D.A. and his witnesses USUALLY sit down with the Judge and the Judge coaches the witness on what he will, and will not, want to hear while the witness is on the stand.<br /><br />So many "Secret" meetings occurred between CPS, CASA and LE during the YZF children's kidnapping case that she needed a revolving door on her chambers.<br /><br />I can't wait for the men's trials,<br />she'll probably need to hand out numbers for the coaching sessions.<br /><br />Bill MedveckyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com