tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post730159149283442023..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Federal dollars from immigrant detainees aren't worth intangible costs at Travis County JailGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-87677697758227699262008-03-29T22:05:00.000-05:002008-03-29T22:05:00.000-05:00I agree with the Sheriff. If people are going to ...I agree with the Sheriff. If people are going to enter our country and commit crimes like speeding and jay walking just so that they can come over here and take our sub-minumum wage jobs just so they can support their spouses and children back home, they should be deported. Shame on them!<BR/><BR/>Signed, A Republican for VoldimortAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-1124054283238764472008-03-29T19:58:00.000-05:002008-03-29T19:58:00.000-05:00Whoops, I said "locking them up upon conviction," ...Whoops, I said "locking them up upon conviction," but obviously I meant securing the ICE hold at that time is good enough. Long day. Good night,Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-82659518188069789282008-03-29T19:53:00.000-05:002008-03-29T19:53:00.000-05:00Two final reactions, then I think we've talked thr...Two final reactions, then I think we've talked through this pretty well. You write:<BR/><BR/>"You have to remember that there are many people in this country that have a problem with law-abiding illegals"<BR/><BR/>How can I forget? This is yet another instance where that insensible position harms public safety and families.<BR/><BR/>"I see locking those indviduals up as a safety issue"<BR/><BR/>Immigrants actually commit <A HREF="http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2006/06/stereotypes-wrong-about-immigrants.html" REL="nofollow">fewer crimes</A> than any other demographic. As such, your view is an ideological position, <A HREF="http://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUSN1930521520080319" REL="nofollow">not a factual one</A>. Locking them up upon conviction is doing plenty to keep us safe, and we put plenty of immigrants in prison under the current regimen. There's just no reason to believe treating them differently in the justice system will improve safety, and we KNOW the Travis jail is already overcrowded.<BR/><BR/>The pragmatic issues with the jail appear to mean nothing to those arguing the anti-immigrant position, but it's a significant issue. best,Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-63607844368652310402008-03-29T12:50:00.000-05:002008-03-29T12:50:00.000-05:00You have to remember that there are many people in...You have to remember that there are many people in this country that have a problem with law-abiding illegals let alone those that commit crimes. I applaud that the Sheriff and the FEDs are working together. If the Sheriff's Dept. is compensated for assisting the FEDs, I am all for that. I see no reason that the Sheriff should take those funds and apply those funds to roads and parks, assuming he can do that. There are alot of strings tied to Federal Funds and he may be limited as to how those funds can be spent.<BR/><BR/>Regardless of the Sheriff's motivation, I see locking those indviduals up as a safety issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-21342756212407213112008-03-29T12:20:00.000-05:002008-03-29T12:20:00.000-05:00If the Sheriff's motivation is not safety, and his...If the Sheriff's motivation is not safety, and his actions inhibit other uses of the already overcrowded jail that ARE safety motivated, he's doing the taxpayers a serious disservice.<BR/><BR/>And just to be clear, HE wouldn't be compensated, it's his office, funded by the taxpayers whose interests he's supposed to serve. The jail isn't there to serve his personal political agenda, or yours.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-82397829830749724912008-03-29T12:14:00.000-05:002008-03-29T12:14:00.000-05:00Regardless of the Sheriff's motivation, my point i...Regardless of the Sheriff's motivation, my point is still valid. Illegals who come into this country and commit crimes should be detained pending an official hearing. If the Sheriff detains those individuals, he should be compensated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-88888009139327426462008-03-29T12:05:00.000-05:002008-03-29T12:05:00.000-05:00In fact, the way to prove for sure this is only ab...In fact, the way to prove for sure this is only about the money would be to do what I suggested and designate the contract proceeds go to roads or parks.<BR/><BR/>If it's about safety he'd keep doing it. Since it's about money, I guarantee the new policy would be reversed overnight.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-53858520277211127242008-03-29T11:56:00.000-05:002008-03-29T11:56:00.000-05:00If the Sheriff had reported a problem with people ...If the Sheriff had reported a problem with people released on bond not returning as a reason for this policy, you might have a point. That was never the issue. He basically wants the extra contract dollars that come from housing federal prisoners.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-59470448843801122042008-03-29T10:41:00.000-05:002008-03-29T10:41:00.000-05:00The Sheriff is doing the right thing by keeping il...The Sheriff is doing the right thing by keeping illegals in jail until conviction. If an illegal is charged with an offense and released from jail, why would he appear in Court on the date of his hearing. If he is likely going to be deported, why do jail time prior to deportation?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-8226790966113713532008-03-29T10:14:00.000-05:002008-03-29T10:14:00.000-05:00It's your wallet that's unnecessarily bleeding, 9:...It's your wallet that's unnecessarily bleeding, 9:03. Your heart is largely irrelevant to the matter. At least until you're a victim of crime and a witness won't come forward because they fear deportation, of course. Then, I'd guess, their failure to trust the justice system would leave you significantly disheartened.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-50670426123815496562008-03-29T09:03:00.000-05:002008-03-29T09:03:00.000-05:00I guess that is the hazard of coming to this count...I guess that is the hazard of coming to this country illegally. Somehow, my heart fails to bleed at this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-42604602472279961192008-03-28T22:52:00.000-05:002008-03-28T22:52:00.000-05:00To 10:06 - They ARE sent back, when they're convic...To 10:06 - They ARE sent back, when they're convicted. What the Sheriff is doing differently is ID'ing them on arrest, so the jail fills up needlessly. We're already deporting people convicted of committing crimes here. The question is whether they'll take up extra space in the jail before they go when it's already completely full.<BR/><BR/>The Travis jail in itself is a massive boondoggle going back several Sheriffs. They've repeatedly issued bonds that were supposed to expand capacity well beyond where it is now, but they botched the job over and over. Now it's chock full and debt on the jail is through the roof. It's foolish to add 100+ extra people who don't need to be there.<BR/><BR/>As for your statement that victims do not have their status questioned, not everything is as black and white as it appears from your perch above the fray. Many crimes are not committed by strangers. If the crime is spousal abuse, e.g., it's little comfort to the spouse that only the assailant will be deported. Instead she just won't call. There are many examples where victims interests are similarly compromised by immigration laws.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-90915177227788269322008-03-28T22:06:00.000-05:002008-03-28T22:06:00.000-05:00I have to ask you to explain why you have a proble...I have to ask you to explain why you have a problem with this. If someone is in our country illegally, that's bad enough. However, if they are here illegally and are breaking the law, why shouldn't they be sent back? How would it improve the country to allow them to stay?<BR/><BR/>As for causing people to be afraid to report crimes, I don't see why. Victims do not have their status questioned. It is only the people arrested. ICE is not going to put a hold on someone who was the victim of a robbery.<BR/><BR/>I commend the Sheriff for sticking to his decision.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-67616663186602763582008-03-28T18:12:00.000-05:002008-03-28T18:12:00.000-05:00People protesting because the State and Local gove...People protesting because the State and Local government are working together...Unbelievable!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com