tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post7311940914221539168..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Time for annual Halloween sex offender hypeGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-66000798235943786392011-07-25T21:36:43.491-05:002011-07-25T21:36:43.491-05:00I completely agree with your post. My brother is a...I completely agree with your post. My brother is a registered sex offender in the state of Georgia, living with my family (Romeo and Juliet case. No sex, just heavy petting. Guess that means he's a child molester). Every halloween, his P.O. has to come around to make sure there are no Halloween decorations that would lure the kiddies over. The whole thing is overblown and the government is exploiting these people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-82631577219117978722010-10-23T11:05:10.142-05:002010-10-23T11:05:10.142-05:00Until we can dissociate advocacy for the repeal/mo...Until we can dissociate advocacy for the repeal/modification of current Sex Offender Registration laws afrom the fear of being labeled ourselves as un-American, liberal, apologists for evis sex offenders, this problem with the law will continue. We are afraid to stand up for this in public because by association with the very topic of sex offender registration, we too will become labeled as perverse. Fear will continue to prevail. Those who advocated that the Witch hunts in previous times be stopped, often paid a personal heavy price themselves by being charged as Witches.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-46840311952949022502010-10-23T01:01:20.859-05:002010-10-23T01:01:20.859-05:00When is a child not a child? When they are someone...When is a child not a child? When they are someone else's.<br /><br />3dayjourney said: "sunray’s, marriage does override that part of the law. So that isn’t a good argument."<br /><br /><br />Why is it not a good argument? It shows clearly that in Texas under certain circumstances, it is perfectly OK for an older man (older by any age gap) to have sex with an otherwise underage girl. Is it any wonder that many people then think that underage sex is no big deal? <br /><br />It is exactly the same message that is sent (because politicians love to send a message to anyone who will listen) when those under the age of 18 are tried and sentenced as if they were over 18. It tells them that adults can move the goal posts any time it suits them to, so why should you trust the word of any adult?<br /><br />You're a child... no wait... you're an adult....but for that you're still a child... unless you do this and then you're an adult again.<br /><br />If a parent kept an under-18 year old in a 6x9 ft room with only 1 set of clothes and only 1 hour outside that room each day, then they would be prosecuted for child abuse. Why is it OK for the state to behave in the same way?sunray's wenchhttp://www.helium.com/items/1730441-crime-human-rightsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-67929498257608315482010-10-22T17:11:39.748-05:002010-10-22T17:11:39.748-05:00One more thing. 3 day is it that you think girls ...One more thing. 3 day is it that you think girls don't like sex? I can tell you that even at 15 we as females like sex just as much as the males. duh?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-57370883519517412912010-10-22T17:09:39.290-05:002010-10-22T17:09:39.290-05:003 day crawl back in your hole and pretend that tee...3 day crawl back in your hole and pretend that teen girls are not capable of making decisions to have sex. <br /> Does it matter to you if the girl is 19 and the boy is 15? Is he then the victim or do you still believe that the boy is the culprit and groomed the older girl just for sex. I say GET REAL AND LOOK AROUND YOU. It is obvious that you are way out of touch with reality.<br />Abstinence is still the best way, but it is not reality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-7987805868564236032010-10-22T16:07:58.490-05:002010-10-22T16:07:58.490-05:00Some teen girls are victims. In our case the victi...Some teen girls are victims. In our case the victim was the man be stalked by our daughter. But suppose he had led her on and encouraged her actions? The laws say " You didn't do anything wrong. Go bring us another one". I say this is a bunch of bull and out girls deserve better than becoming prostitutes for the state. How the hell are parents supposed to control them when we get no back-up?Angeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00323251252533007308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-53148103284363766572010-10-22T14:20:25.962-05:002010-10-22T14:20:25.962-05:00Angee, don't you understand? You're blamin...Angee, don't you understand? You're blaming the "victim"!! How dare you teach your daughter to take responsibility for her own actions? Somebody neeeds to get with the program.<br /><br />3day, I guess all those women your grandmother's age who married older men were "victims" too by your logic, right? From what you said you talked to one person who regretted having consensual sex when she was young and based on that you're willing to criminalize thousands of men just because she didn't have the morals to say "no." Is that about right? This doesn't have anything to do with slavery or the rights of African Americans. Maybe earning your paycheck from these laws makes you more supportive of them but IMHO you're kidding yourself if you think criminal laws will stop teenage girls like Angee's daughter from having consensual sex or seeking to date older men.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-27085844781821411022010-10-22T11:32:38.511-05:002010-10-22T11:32:38.511-05:00There must be laws to protect children but I must ...There must be laws to protect children but I must ask how many times a victim can be a victim? Rather than telling the teen girls that they have done nothing wrong this is the opportunity to for them to learn about putting themselves in risky situations. Until we address the responsibilities of both parties this will continue out of control. Learning to take some responsibility for their own actions could save the lives of our daughters. In consensual situations our teens know what is going on. They know the laws and how to use them to their benefit. I raised a daughter. At age 13 she climbed into the bedroom window of a 26 year- old. She had not been invited. Had she been behaving properly she would have rang the doorbell. I didn't report it because he would have been punished and she would have been told she had done nothing wrong. I had a different message for her.Angeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00323251252533007308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-67071893282019443532010-10-22T10:43:14.518-05:002010-10-22T10:43:14.518-05:00Hey 06:15:00 PM I think you missed my point. But i...Hey 06:15:00 PM I think you missed my point. But if you want to go back to my grandmother's time when African Americas and women did not have legal protection than go ahead use that period as an example. My point is I don't care what they did in biblical time or xxx amount of years ago. I have been influenced by victims in this generation [older adolescents with younger adults] and I do not now feel comfortable with decriminalizing that behavior. You do. OK. But you argument isn't effective on me. However, I am basically agreeing that your example exists [of course] and should be considered for mitigating the criminal behavior [we can't] but I wont go as far as calling for decriminalization like you do. Lets see what the future laws will bring us.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07378632434270432565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-82628429158941399872010-10-21T22:13:07.078-05:002010-10-21T22:13:07.078-05:00Sex offender laws are completely over the top. Pee...Sex offender laws are completely over the top. Peeing in public gets you registered right alongside the folks who go around raping 3 year olds. These laws need a drastic change, but surely, after watching the likes of JB parade around convicting everyone for everything, guilty or not, and getting away with it ever since he slimed his way into office on Tricky Ricky's nickel nobody is surprised anymore. The doddering gummer faction loves ol' JB for 'keeping us safe in our mechanical beds at night', just as most of the idiot public thinks sex offender laws are the only things standing between them and being mouth raped in our sleep by evil slope-browed half men. Until enough folks have run afoul of the justice (snicker) system to have a majority realize how chicken fried screwed up it is, we'll be stuck with these ahole zealots and their retarded laws. Until then, I plan to be elsewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-31811177066252757482010-10-21T19:50:28.410-05:002010-10-21T19:50:28.410-05:007:22 PM says "sever the umbilical cord" ...7:22 PM says "sever the umbilical cord" <br />Please explain yourself. What is it in 1:35 PM's statement that makes you think that she is over protective? She is referring to how Halloween restrictions effect her family and the total ridiculousness of the restrictions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-85370143432958381282010-10-21T19:22:56.889-05:002010-10-21T19:22:56.889-05:001:35 PM, sever that umbilical cord.1:35 PM, sever that umbilical cord.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-67275113297305575782010-10-21T18:15:10.373-05:002010-10-21T18:15:10.373-05:00This is 11:25 - 3day, you don't need to go bac...This is 11:25 - 3day, you don't need to go back to biblical times, just a couple of generations to see that the world doesn't end if young women date older men. Ask your grandmother at what age her peers married and how old were their spouses if you don't believe me. And those are the folks whose morals we supposedly got away from and need to return to, according to all the fundie-Christine O'Donnell types out there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-87226723748178615332010-10-21T16:43:56.870-05:002010-10-21T16:43:56.870-05:00Have we forgotten the Halloween Parenting Rule, th...Have we forgotten the Halloween Parenting Rule, the one followed by most of our parents: The #1 best way to keep your children safe on Halloween is to GO with them and do not let them out of your sight. BE A Parent.<br /><br />The # 1 way (not always a guarantee) to try to prevent your 15 year old daughter from sneaking around and having sex with an older teen or young adult, be involved in her life and know where she's going, what she's doing, who she hangs with, who she's talking to on the phone and on the internet. Set boundaries, enforce them. <br /> <br />3dayjourney, I don't know if the 14year old girl you mentioned is the exception or the rule but I tend to think it is the exception. I've spoken with several young women labeled "victim" because as a teen they had consensual sex with an older teen. Some are now married to the offender, some have children with the offender, and some say they pursued the boy. <br />Some didn't know the boy ended up an RSO and have volunteered to do what they can to help the now grown man get off the registry. Not one of these young women felt the boy did anything to force sex on them or to trick them into sex.<br /><br />We need to come to terms with teen girls having sex without coersion, manipulation or trickery, but as a choice they are making. Teenage girls have "urges" same as boys. It is also a fact that females have orgasms in case some of you good ole boys didn't know that. <br /><br />You know the old saying "boys just want one thing?" Well, they're not the only ones wanting it.<br /><br />Disclaimer: I am a parent. I do not condone teen sex now or ever. I have instructed my daughters they can have sex when they are 30.Juliet's Momnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-43081286948008031542010-10-21T15:41:50.624-05:002010-10-21T15:41:50.624-05:00Anonymous said...
The world has gone ***** nuts!
...Anonymous said...<br /><br />The world has gone ***** nuts!<br /><br />10/21/2010 01:35:00 PM<br />------------------------------------<br />Texas certainly has.Hook Em Hornshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660612847019528535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-8114161365219242012010-10-21T14:44:11.620-05:002010-10-21T14:44:11.620-05:003day:
The bill you ask about was hb3148 proposed...3day: <br />The bill you ask about was hb3148 proposed by Todd Smith. It allowed a 4 year age difference instead of 3 as a defense. The bill passed the house and the senate and tricky ricky vetoed it. <br />Marriage doesn't override the law in Tx. I know 2 men who married the young lady they fell into trouble over. They have been married for many years, they have children. These men(dad,husbands) are registered for life. The registry does not mention that fact. Their children are ridiculed, bullied and harrassed at school. Their children's friends are not allowed to visit them, they don't have birthday parties, because noone comes when they get invited. So, tell me what is fair about ANY OF THAT. Yes, I am angry. I am frustrated that there is no distinction on the registry of who is dangerous and who is not. I am furious that there is no light at the end of the tunnel for these folks. Treatment, probation, parole, plethysmograph tests, polygraph tests are expensive and these families are required subjection to all of these. Even our lawmakers know what they are doing is wrong, but they don't have the balls to do anything about it. Prosecutors love it, there is virtually no defence for these types of offenses. <br /> I have said mine. Sorry about the rant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-70959089473140754372010-10-21T13:35:39.929-05:002010-10-21T13:35:39.929-05:00Until today I thought it was about HALLOWEEN, not ...Until today I thought it was about HALLOWEEN, not the 30 days leading up to Halloween. But the P.O. that my son saw this morning told him that if there are Halloween decorations INSIDE our home we need to take them down! The decorations I have up are for the most part on my fireplace mantel and NOT visible from outside. How the devil does a few INDOOR decorations threaten a child that does not live here or visit here? My husband & I have an annual ADULT ONLY Halloween party in our back yard. We thought we were safe having it on Oct 30th this year. But I guess the PTB want to ruin everyone's fun for the entire month. They might as well cancel the entire holiday. I think Christmas & Easter will be next. After all Jonbent Ramsey was sexually assaulted & murdered on Christmas night. Gee, I wonder if it was because her parents had a Christmas tree in the house? The world has gone ***** nuts!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-66281820644206255352010-10-21T13:16:13.037-05:002010-10-21T13:16:13.037-05:0011:25 I have not called for the life time registra...11:25 I have not called for the life time registration of the above example mentioned. In fact I believe that "the criminal justice system should differentiate" between those different types of people convicted of sex crimes. I would guess that where we most disagree would be that I don't support decriminalization. But I would like for some type of hope for the individuals that are not a risk for further harm to others. <br /><br />If we want to quote biblical times we also get into stoning, government controlled religion, multiple wives and a general lack of equality. I kind of hope that isn’t our standard. We disagree, that is all, on decriminalization. It is solely based for me on a conversation with a 14ish aged girl 10 years later and the negative effect the sexual behavior had with her through out her further relationship and life and how the offender had manipulated her emotionally. I wont go into that further. Just understand that I don’t have an agenda, I am just unable to support your reasoning. <br /><br />sunray’s, marriage does override that part of the law. So that isn’t a good argument.<br /><br />It is an “affirmative defense to prosecute” when the younger person consented and is within 3 years of age of the older. There was also a bill at one time to expand that to 5 years if in school together. Not sure if it had and limitations or if it passed and became law. It probable didn’t as that isn’t the direction Texas travels in their handling of Sex Offenders, but who knows.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07378632434270432565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-49350823428048733312010-10-21T12:26:22.097-05:002010-10-21T12:26:22.097-05:00One more thought...has throwing money at criminal ...One more thought...has throwing money at criminal justice made us any safer?Hook Em Hornshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660612847019528535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-74882329419098315712010-10-21T12:24:37.867-05:002010-10-21T12:24:37.867-05:00Yes, there are real sex offenders, on that, we can...Yes, there are real sex offenders, on that, we can all agree but the criminalization of teen-agers having sex serves only the "sex offender industry." The Halloween hype serves the "sex offender industry" and ratings starved TV news. When you privatize prisons and industries like "sex offense" you create a whole new myriad of problems that usually include fear-mongering, false statistics and other crap to justify growth and profits in those respective industries.Hook Em Hornshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660612847019528535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-72780562369260207662010-10-21T11:55:35.941-05:002010-10-21T11:55:35.941-05:00A 19 year old and 15 year old go on a killing spre...A 19 year old and 15 year old go on a killing spree. They are referred to as murderers.<br /><br />A 19 year old and 15 year old rob a bank. They are called bank robbers.<br /><br />A 19 year old and 15 year old have sex. The 19 year old becomes a criminal sex offender and the 15 year old becomes a victim.<br /><br />Any questions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-4581690077533600022010-10-21T11:29:31.509-05:002010-10-21T11:29:31.509-05:00I'm told it is legal for 14 year old girls to ...I'm told it is legal for 14 year old girls to be married in Texas, and for 12 year olds to be married in America as long as both parents agree.<br /><br />Does 3dayjourney think that those girls should abstain from sex with their husbands? Or does being married override the laws of the land?sunray's wenchhttp://www.helium.com/items/1641834-living-unconventional-lifestylesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-1105949098530299332010-10-21T11:25:38.641-05:002010-10-21T11:25:38.641-05:003dayjourney says "I just can’t come to the po...3dayjourney says "I just can’t come to the point of agreeing that a 19 year old with a 15 year old should not have some form of punishment."<br /><br />I would reply that A) "Some sort of punishment" doesn't equal lifetime sex offender registration and B) lots of people in our grandparents generation would have seen a 19 and 15 year old as perfectly normal. That's been true back to biblical times and making everybody criminals doesn't help or protect anybody. Hell, my daughter used to lie about her age so older boys would date her and I know she's not the only one. Just like 10:53s story, this is something for parents to deal with but it's beyond stupid to try to punish it using criminal laws.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-53652489224319976812010-10-21T09:14:03.948-05:002010-10-21T09:14:03.948-05:00I knew if I read this blog long enough I would fin...I knew if I read this blog long enough I would find something that Grits and I agree on. Halloween is safe when parents walk with their kids and keep them safe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-21388857236440530152010-10-21T08:30:59.730-05:002010-10-21T08:30:59.730-05:00Juliet's Mom, I am sorry that someone you love...Juliet's Mom, I am sorry that someone you love had a sexual relationship with an under aged individual and suffered all the punishment that that entails. However, I just can’t come to the point of agreeing that a 19 year old with a 15 year old should not have some form of punishment. I do however think that the criminal justice system should differentiate between the different levels of sex offenders. They do not. By the way, I am not a RSOTP and hopefully not a perv. But my wife might differ on that last description. Good luck on the blogosphere, maybe you can change policy. <br />5:57: Many want to stay away to protect themselves but that isn’t dependent on being health or not. It is a common motivation. However, I am speaking of sexual offenders that have realized the pain that they caused and legitimately don’t want to cause harm again. It is just Halloween and not much of a sacrifice to them as they would rather not have children come up to their door and risk any anxieties beyond accusations. [Kind of like an alcoholic not wanting to work in a bar]. But I don’t disagree with your assessment as a primary motivation.<br />By the way Grits… My community does a mixture of the “go by and check on the homes of sex offenders” and what my department [not therapy or perv if Juliet’s mom is still reading] does. We have an educational program at an undisclosed location [to prevent violence on the SO] for the sex offenders that are court ordered to have no contact with children [i.e. does not include the adult on adult crimes]. We will have a refresher course with a police officer on registration requirements and a chance to ask questions of them. Then a therapist has a time to work on some general issues with the guys [nothing specific as they are from different programs]. This takes them away from their home and will allow their families to celebrate Halloween without the violation of the offender’s court ordered terms. No perfect but better.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07378632434270432565noreply@blogger.com