tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post7323297759457915077..comments2024-03-25T20:06:39.794-05:00Comments on Grits for Breakfast: Prosecutors 'double down' on evidence tampering, now can 'go for broke' knowing judges could bail them outGritsforbreakfasthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-78852191545503960772016-07-01T08:46:45.464-05:002016-07-01T08:46:45.464-05:00Grits I just don't,get it how a person could b...Grits I just don't,get it how a person could be found not guilty for tampering guilty on attempt to tamper j.s. Ama,Tx<br />.Jozzie wesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07188530556328989687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-60842602135059616532013-01-12T12:18:20.635-06:002013-01-12T12:18:20.635-06:00Wow...that's really disturbing to consider a s...Wow...that's really disturbing to consider a system that has so many parts like this broken. 45 years is a LONG time for a crack pipe and some brillo with no crack. And to think that his conviction had to actually be overturned is mind boggling. What is the world coming to these days? Michaelhttp://legalcareerpath.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-64856295123861025502013-01-12T06:31:26.031-06:002013-01-12T06:31:26.031-06:00Another thing thatgets me is that the CCA wants th...Another thing thatgets me is that the CCA wants the 7th court to consider whether Thornton is guilty of "attempted" tampering with evidence, but the ruling below already held that "he made no attempt to hide it from the officers." If he "made no attempt" to hide it, how could it be attempted tampering?<br /><br />The whole thing, as TH said above, amounts to "requiring the appellate courts to cast about, searching beyond the record for some reason to affirm," in this case even though the lower court has already said the "attempted" charge wouldn't apply.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-73256982215925327152013-01-12T01:45:40.379-06:002013-01-12T01:45:40.379-06:00Hey Grits,
Regarding -
"Grits shares Justi...Hey Grits, <br />Regarding -<br /> <br />"Grits shares Justice Pirtle's frustration at such a sweeping use of the evidence tampering statute, and wonder what consequences might arise from allowing appellate judges to affirm convictions for charges never brought by the prosecution."<br /><br />I predict that it's shit like this that'll cause one or more people to simply SNAP, resulting in horriffic consequenses. <br /><br />God have mercy on the Butter Knife industry if the Snappee(s) utilizes one to exact revenge vs. simply just venting / ranting about his / her being wronged at trial and subsequentally again by the referee court's bullshit rullings. Thanks. Thomas R. Griffithhttp://www.projectnotguilty.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-12419298271868435782013-01-11T15:24:35.295-06:002013-01-11T15:24:35.295-06:00I hate crooked prosecutors. I agree with anonymous...I hate crooked prosecutors. I agree with anonymous. My grandson is 375 miles and because of health and money I have not seen him in over a year. He's brain damaged and has right frontal lobe brain sisures and they give him a case every time he has one so he stays on restriction and can't even call us. AND NOBODY CARES most of them don't bother to answer and when one does they just say oh well he didn't follow direct orders or something stupid like that. It was a lying proscutor that put him there. sunshinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-61389432544239707162013-01-11T13:55:29.221-06:002013-01-11T13:55:29.221-06:00I don't know, Thomas. when prosecutors engage ...I don't know, Thomas. when prosecutors engage in overcharging based on "half-assed work" that "should have been corrected long before trial," it seems like overreach to me. Whether that's a strategic decision or simply because they're so used to the courts rolling over for them that they think they can get away with "half-assed work" seems to me a distinction without a difference, though I suppose it may matter to somebody.<br /><br />Prison Doc, you nailed it. One notices nobody was charged with evidence tampering from Smith County in the Kerry Max Cook case, even though prosecutors destroyed evidence without notifying the defense and one of the investigators took evidence home with him as a souvenir/trophy.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-32356655436357544922013-01-11T13:52:10.509-06:002013-01-11T13:52:10.509-06:00THE TEXAS DEPT. OF CORRECTIONS ARE SO MESSED UP MY...THE TEXAS DEPT. OF CORRECTIONS ARE SO MESSED UP MY SON IS IN A PRISON ABOUT 300 MILES FROM HIS FAMILY,CANT GO VISIT HIM FATHER SENT LETTER FROM DR.CANT TRAVEL THAT FAR THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE FAMILIES OR THE INMATE! TDCD NEEDS TO BE INVESTAGATED & OVERHAULD!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-2728878955399837612013-01-11T13:37:25.775-06:002013-01-11T13:37:25.775-06:00I never said they should be rewarded; I was simply...I never said they should be rewarded; I was simply pointing out that I really didn't see overreach . . . I saw half-assed work done by the prosecutors that should have been corrected long before trial. Requiring the appellate courts to cast about, searching beyond the record for some reason to affirm, is an offensive contortion of their traditional role..Thomas Hobbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10832779920216463979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-65026296943771911532013-01-11T11:45:00.296-06:002013-01-11T11:45:00.296-06:00Isn't "tampering with evidence" or &...Isn't "tampering with evidence" or "evading arrest" just, ah...human nature? I think tampering with evidence is more likely to be a problem among police, criminalists, and prosecutors, reminiscent of the Mark Fuhrman interview made public at the "First OJ Trial".<br /><br />These charges are reallly just more "enhancements" rather than true crimes.Prison Dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03651611135066437902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-82603602911941428422013-01-11T11:40:11.253-06:002013-01-11T11:40:11.253-06:00I think the citizens of your state and this countr...I think the citizens of your state and this country should be very, very scared! This is nothing but abuse of judiciary power!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-30338808477773034052013-01-11T10:36:18.568-06:002013-01-11T10:36:18.568-06:00Thomas, they convicted Bowen of stealing more than...Thomas, they convicted Bowen of stealing more than $200K but could only prove around half that.<br /><br />Why should prosecutors be rewarded for "failure ... to properly evaluate the elements and whether they could be proved"? Notably, such errors always seem to lean toward the high side, and IMO will become more frequent now that the courts have said they automatically get a mulligan.Gritsforbreakfasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10152152869466958902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-9333250667128183312013-01-11T10:16:02.491-06:002013-01-11T10:16:02.491-06:00Is it any wonder why most people don't trust t...Is it any wonder why most people don't trust the police, judges or courts? There are so many hypocrites employed by the state of Texas and it's numerouse counties that it's become a fucking laughing stock. Guess that pledge of ethics is just another sham?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8597101.post-15136532201895980342013-01-11T10:09:12.248-06:002013-01-11T10:09:12.248-06:00When I read Bowen, I didn't see overreach in t...When I read <i>Bowen</i>, I didn't see overreach in the cases mentioned; I saw more failure in charging decisions to properly evaluate the elements and whether they could be proved. Thomas Hobbeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10832779920216463979noreply@blogger.com