Thursday, December 20, 2007

Third time a charm? New TYC conservator appointed

The Governor's first choices turned him down, but the Texas Youth Commission finally has a new conservator, Richard Nedelkoff, the third to hold the position since the agency was placed under conservatorship last March.

Welcome aboard, sir, y buena suerte! You've got a tough job ahead of you, and you're going to need all the luck, and help, you can get.

On the upside, it's not like you've got big shoes to fill. The Governor inexplicably declared in an AP story announcing the decision ("Former Bush aide chosen to lead TYC," Dec. 19) that:
"Impeccable leadership by conservators of TYC has helped Texas make great strides in righting a very troubled agency," said Perry. "Richard's experience and expertise in juvenile and criminal justice make him the right person to finish the job at TYC."
Uh, excuse me? "Impeccable"? Do the the Governor's PR people own a dictionary? The last two conservators took a broken agency and transformed it into a crippled one. TYC has been so mismanaged since March that the New York Times editorialized Texas should "raze" the agency and "start over"! That ignominious record, I'd suggest, cannot be wiped away with a pat on the back and a press release declaring "Heckuva job, Brownie!"

On the other hand, other experts in the juvenile justice arena suggested that Nedelkoff may be, as UNLV Professor Bill Bush declared in Grits' comments, an:
Interesting choice, and extremely well qualified for the job. Someone who knows a lot about juvenile justice and probation, knows how to handle budgets, and, it appears, an experienced fundraiser who may be able to attract some much needed federal and private funds to TYC.

The place he was working until today, Eckerd Youth Alternatives, is pretty highly respected nonprofit in Florida, which ran highly touted youth programs, and its founders were opponents of the get tough philosophy.
"I view this as a real game-changer," concluded Bush, "and it will be interesting to see what he does. At least Gov Perry has given us someone who can be taken seriously." Similarly, Dr. Barry Krisberg, president of the National Council on Crime and Delinquency, told the Dallas News ("New conservator brings long-term outlook for Texas Youth Commission," Dec. 20) that "this is great news ... He's a tough-minded guy. He's played in a few bureaucracies."

It sounds like Nedelkoff may plan to revive the "Blue Ribbon Panel" report that the last conservator round-filed immediately upon receipt. He told the Austin Statesman ("Governor appoints juvenile justice veteran as youth agency conservator," Dec. 20) he intends:
to moderate and participate in a high-stakes political debate over whether the state's most serious youth offenders and delinquents can ever be properly dealt with in the current system of far-flung prisons.

The system, which has had the support of the Legislature for more than a decade before scandal broke in March, has been criticized as untenable by some criminal justice experts.

"It's an appropriate debate that needs to be held to discuss a variety of options," Nedelkoff said Wednesday after Gov. Rick Perry announced that he was appointing Nedelkoff to the position, effective immediately. "There is the ideal world of having as many of these kids in communities as close as possible to where their families live, and there is the reality of the current facilities."
He also sounds much less antagonistic toward the idea of rehabilitation than the current TYC crew. According to Austin's KXAN-TV:
With 28 years of criminal justice experience, Nedelkoff said his first step is to organize the agency in a way to help the kids, not just detain them.

"Making sure that a kid who leaves a TYC program or facility is better than when they walked in," Nedelkoff said.
A former director of the Governor's Criminal Justice Division under both Bush and Perry, Nedelkoff ran the Bureau of Justice Assistance under President Bush for a while, giving him a perhaps unique background to assist soliciting federal funds. Indeed, at the end of the day if everything turns out as well as it possibly could, that experience may be the most important asset Mr. Needelkoff brings to the table.

After leaving the Bush Administration, he was for a while President of the Riga Solutions Group, a management consulting firm for criminal justice and human services operations at government agencies - though I've seen the name around occasionally, I don't know anything about that firm.

In addition, though I couldn't figure out a time frame for this slot in his resume', according to a press release announcing Nedelkoff's hiring at Eckerd:
In Florida , he was the Executive Director of the Florida Network of Youth and Family Services, which is a statewide coalition of over 30 non-profit and governmental organizations that provide services to truant, runaway and troubled children in 100 sites across Florida . He was also appointed by the Florida Secretary of Juvenile Justice to manage the largest juvenile justice service district in Florida .
Since May, Nedelkoff has been "chief operating officer for Eckerd Youth Alternatives in Clearwater, Fla., a private not-for-profit organization that serves at-risk youths through residential and community-based programs in 10 states." Like Ed Owens before him, Nedelkoff considers "conservator" a part-time job; he will stay on at Florida-based Eckerd as COO and draw a paycheck while he is TYC conservator.

You have to wonder if this mess can actually be fixed on a part-time basis? Perhaps the last two, short-timers who held the conservator's slot whispered into Nedelkoff's ear, "Don't quit your day job." Certainly nobody's lasted too long in that gig so far.

One potential conflict of interest not reported in initial press accounts: Eckerd is one of the private contractors competing to take over TYC's role housing young offenders (10-13 year olds), and Nedelkoff personally was involved this summer in soliciting the Texas contract, which would have been the company's first in the state.

For that reason, I really question whether it's appropriate for Mr. Nedelkoff to stay on at Eckerd while he does this job unless the nonprofit intends to withdraw its bid to house Texas youth. If Eckerd is competing for contracts, at a minimum it creates an overwhelming appearance of conflict.

If I had to offer one piece of advice to the new conservator, it would be that the major lesson of the last two conservators is how severely they undervalued their employees. Jay Kimbrough came in and fired dozens of people who had nothing to do with the agency's scandals, then under Ed Owens TDCJ cronies filled high-paying management jobs and newly created bureaucratic positions, while front-line employees worked double shifts and suffered retaliation for complaining about unsafe work conditions. I've never seen nor heard of a government agency that's so alienated its staff, who are now leaving the agency in droves: In the last fiscal year, TYC lost half again as many old employees as it has hired new ones.

The best way to change the anti-employee culture in TYC management would be to appoint a competent, permanent commissioner as soon as possible next year. Acting executive director Dimitria Pope has been the enthusiastic instrument of misguided policies under Kimbrough and Owens, and within the agency has almost become like a brand name identified with the Governor's two failed conservator appointments. Find her a soft place to land (perhaps a job in another state with Eckerd?), then get somebody in that slot who's independent and competent with experience in juvenile justice, and you'll go a long way toward restoring confidence in the agency among its employees. From a management perspective, that must be your first concern.

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Anonymous said...

Grits,
I hadn't realized Nedelkoff was staying on at Eckerd. Could be, as you say, a potential conflict of interest, esp if Eckerd gets a contract from TYC.

But his initial statements only add to my guarded optimism overall.

BB

Anonymous said...

From your comments, we know where this guy has been and where he is now.

I wonder what he has done!

Perry is probably lucky to find anyone willing to take on the TYC job. This guy doesn't look too promising to me. He will be in my spotlight and everyone else's until Ms. Pope leaves.

Anonymous said...

He is not as "talented" as Perry wants him to be. He is a puppet and "fundraiser" man - that's all. There will be no changes at TYC because these kids have dollars over there heads. They are profit...and yet the agency has no money? Well, we do know they don't invest the money in quality hiring of the staff that work with the kids, JCO's and we do no they don't invest it in hiring investigators to invest the fraudenlent 225's, and we do no its not invested in maintenance or clothes for the kids and we do know its not invested well at all. Especially since I do KNOW that parents are court ordered to pay child support so they get all of this money and get all of these kids and yet nothing reflects it being used in the TYC system, staff or kids. So, he is no built up hero to me and the comment "impeccable" only gives assuarance that hell is wrapped up in that guy too.

Anonymous said...

Well, we know how her holiness feels about middle age white women. I wonder how she will do with a middle age white man. I wonder if this is just a figure head position or will he have power over the agency. I just hope he means what he was quoted as saying and will try to make the kids better coming out of TYC than there are now.....

Anonymous said...

I think we all need to give this guy the benefit of the doubt, though pessimism is understandable. I for one feel very confident.

This man is endorsed by national JJ experts, many of whom were on the Blue Ribbon Task Force. His quotes in the media have thus far demonstrate a modern vision for JJ and have been very encouraging.

He also seems to be a no-nonsense manager who understands the nature of bureacracies. TYC needs that.

I believe there is light at the end of this tunnel and it's not a train.

Anonymous said...

Unless Pope goes the experience employees will continue to leave and TYC's youth will suffer the consequences. Yesterday, another central office director with 19 years experience in TYC, announced her departure. The sad thing is that the TDCJ's "rejects" continue to bring substandard people on board. For the most part, the best ideas they have, is to say "well in TDCJ with did it this way." Well, go back to TDCJ. That is, if they take you back!

Anonymous said...

Unless he fires Pope, no single person with any intelligence is going to take him seriously or given him any respect. If he wants to earn it, he had better work for it. Being appointed by Perry is his biggest single red target for being incompetent. He's going to have to work hard to scrub that target off and disassociate himself from being "just another Perry puppett".

Horse feathers said...

J. H. C., Eckerd is an outdoor juvenile wilderness camp structure. They have facilities all over the Eastern Seaboard and the southeast. This individual has no idea what he is facing.

I do believe he deserves an opportunity to see what he can do with TYC, but I am afraid Texas backstabben politics will eat him alive. This guy is just another George, and Jeb yes man sent to Perry by his former boss.

Governor Perry can you, let Mr. Nedelkoff do what he has to do. Let him off a leesh so he can take care of business. Can you remove the Pope and let Nedelkoff clean house from the ground up.

If not Governor Perry, you'll just be stirring the pot till it boils over and blows up in your face again. Don't let Mr. Nedelkoff be a short term patch. In fact, since he did not cut the ties to Eckerd, I am sure he will light out of Texas like a JUNE BUG on Ms. Popes rear end if this horned toad BS continues in Texas juvenile justice. I give him, maybe eight months and then is back to Camp Eckerd.

Anonymous said...

I would bet that sometime in January, Ms. Pope will "gracefully" step down to spend more time with her family. That is what they always say when they have gotten the axe. Don't worry, she will find some other job where she can belittle and intimidate others.

Anonymous said...

Contract Care is coming to TYC via the new conservator.

To get the youth close to home the counties will be forced to deal with juvenile offenders with funding from the state. Most counties will hire contractors to do the job of dealing with juveniles since it is such a no win situation. At all levels the elected officials will be removed from the direct blame when Contract Care goes bad. It is so obvious the new guy is tied to contract care in a major way. What a conflict of interest, but this is Texas where that is not viewed as an immoral or unlawful act.

The first youth into contract care will be the 10 – 14 year olds. Many of these youth are special need youth with mental and emotional problems. I doubt the care they need, will ever be provided at the level required to make a real difference in their lives. Often family therapy is needed for the special need youth and family members.

The older youth will be handled as adults or be housed in special TYC units manned by TDCJ guards since the grant money is not there for this age segment of TYC youth. 16 and 17 year old youth will be contracted out to TDCJ.

In short, TYC is going the way of the dinosaur! There have been too many comments about TYC not being fixable. These comments are being made to soften the blow and slowly change thinking about the future of TYC. There is way too much tax money on the table for this to go down any other way than contract care!

The past two conservators did as they were required; the destroyed TYC. The new conservator is here to lead TYC into contract care to save the day. Before all is done the spin doctors will proclaim a major victory in the area of juvenile justice in Texas and call it a day. Perry was not misspeaking when he said the two previous Conservators were “impeccable leadership”. They both did exactly what Rick Perry wanted them to do which was to destroy TYC. There is nothing new, it is only Phase 3!

rage judicata said...

I would bet that sometime in January, Ms. Pope will "gracefully" step down to spend more time with her family. That is what they always say when they have gotten the axe. Don't worry, she will find some other job where she can belittle and intimidate others.

12/20/2007 02:00:00 PM


And who cares abotu the kids, as long as you stop getting belittled, right?

rage judicata said...

In light of all of the problems, I don't blame him a bit for keeping his day job.

I'm sure that it was one of his requirements for taking the job. If things start to go well, he can make the switch completely. If not, he can shift back to Florida and say he gave it a shot.

And I bet he'll work on it, but I wonder how much power they have given him. If their first choice turned them down because they weren't giving them enough power to actually fix the problems, does this mean that they did give Nedelkoff that authority, or as a condition for accepting the job without all of the necessary authority did he insist on keeping his Eckerd job?

Can't blame him either way, I'm just curious as to how much power he'll have to make the changes that have been recommended and that have worked well in Missouri.

Anonymous said...

Same old whiners. Give the man time to work. All you folk do it bitch here. Grits where is the substance?

He was not appointed with the consent of any Blue Ribbon folk. They and you here are trying to push them back into the mix. They are done. Missouri is not Texas. Never will be. Start telling the truth about Missouri....Good model yes...Did they create it overnight? No they did not.

What you are seeing is a model 25 years in the works. Unfair to compare the two. It is more than small units and more staff. Get back to the true issues people.

Anonymous said...

Conflict of interest? Lack of authority to deal effectively with Dementia? Bush "yes" man? No balls? Third choice for the job? Just another Perry puppet? Benefit of the doubt? Short term patch? What has he done? Will only last eight months? And the beat goes on. May God have mercy on our souls!

dt said...

Typical goodhair B.S.

There were conflicts of interest when Eckerd bid for Kerrville. And there won't be conflicts now?

This is pure B.S.

Anonymous said...

Give the guy a chance. He has over 25 years of experience working for republicans and democrats and when he was confirmed in Washington people on both sides of the aisle sang his praises. Plus he has been a detention center manager and a line worker - he's been in the trenches. Sounds like he has some positive ideas regarding treatment. Give the guy a chance.

Anonymous said...

If he dismisses Pope for Racial statements and fiscal mismanagement, no plan nor clue of how to run an agency yes I will give him a chance. But, he has more than enough ammunition to send her packing as well as the one who violated a court order and still has his job today. Lets see what he does!!!

Anonymous said...

I agree we should hold our thoughts until we see what he can or does. Lets not throw him out before he even walks thru the doorway. Hopefully he will read grits and listen to our comments if we are not just bashing him before he even says hello TYC.

I do think believe he is the one that will open the door to contract care and that TYC will be downsized to just a handful of facilities. It all points in that direction now more than ever.
Seems like this has been in the works since last May. But we have to wait and see what our future brings. I say, just keep your eyes and ears open and a plan for our new future elsewhere.

Pray we get some relief from this mess we are in now. I am wondering why our current leader has not commented on him coming aboard? That racial statement she made certanily has not been keeping her busy. Seems that "white women" deal has just went away. Go figure

Anonymous said...

hey 7:27,

quit posting that libelous crap. (if you don't understand what that term means, go look it up). Don't abuse this forum. This is the only outlet that we employees have to express ourselves. Please don't ruin it for us.

Every time one of us sinks to a low level, we reinforce the notion that we are not to be valued. Don't drag the rest of us down with you.

Anonymous said...

Much to do about nothing! This is the same game just a different player. The main problem at TYC is staffing! No TYC staff then no programming. How easy does it get? After all that has been done to the people who worked at TYC, who in their right mind would want to work there? One of the first things you learn in business psychology is how people think their employer feels and thinks about them is more important than pay! Treat employees like you think they are the enemy and you will not have a viable work force. Belittle your workers and again you will have no viable work force. TYC has operated for years on the “Management by Intimation Model” which was a major failure in the 80’s costing many Fortune 500 companies millions of dollars. They eroded their experienced employee base and made it very difficult to hire dedicated replacements. It often took many years to rebuild after the “Management by Intimation Model” gutted the company.

The bottom line is that the staff is the primary concern at TYC! If the people working at TYC do not feel valued then they will live down to the expectations of their leaders. People who are in constant fear for their jobs cannot function at their full potential. People who are treated unfairly by local supervisors become disillusioned and angry. How can you even begin to think employees who are victims of long term abuse will not possibly abuse the youth in their care.

If the people working with the youth in TYC are not happy and secure in their jobs any program you implement will fail. It makes no difference if it is the best program in the world it will fail if the staff is not treated with respect and dignity. Respect and dignity were two words missing from the TYC management vocabulary unless it applied to them! Delivery of service only happens, if the staff working with the youth has their heart in the program. Fear and intimidation will never work!

If you care about the TYC youth then you had better care about the TYC staff! To date, all that has happened is TYC administration has angered and humiliated hundreds of TYC staff. Many have left never to return. How many millions of dollars in training and experience have been squandered, all to the determent of the TYC youth?

FTM

Anonymous said...

12:20 your right on the money! I have said it over and over, take care of the staff and the rest will take care of itself.

That is exactly how most of us feel. We are not worth anything to CO and with the at will crap, that just said, we can replace you at the drop of hat. Well that hat is not finding many heads to fit these days.

Anonymous said...

We're screwed. He looks like a deer caught in the headlights of an oncoming hummer driven by Whitmire.

This can't possibly be a part time job to reform TYC. Hell, he's just filling a vacant slot, Pope (i.e. hummer) will continue to steer this wreck until it is beyond repair.

Anonymous said...

7:58 p.m./12-20, you hit the nail on the head. TYC needs to put these two key words in their vocabulary and treat staff with the dignity and respect they are worthy of. Instead of allowing superintendents to tell staff that if they can't get on the bus then they need to go on down the road and find something else. Now that they have been relieved of some of their authority; they are attempting to intimidate employees into getting what they want by embarassing employees in meetings or before their peers and its NOT GOING TO WORK, arm twisting is a personal foul and will not be tolerated. They are also at will employees and subject to following policy, law and procedure just the like the rest of us!! Some of these superintendents suffer from paranoia, low self-esteem and the need to exert their power at any cost. I believe Dementia and all her supts should attend management classes on how to treat and keep employees, even white women with phd's. However,it might not help them but we can say we've done everything we can to help them and then fire them. Lets hope this newly appointed conservator understands what "valuing employees because they are your best asset" means and he practices it. Santa Claus, all we want for Christmas is to be treated with respect and dignity. We want honest and ethical supervisors who do not feel like they are above the law and believe they have the right to treat employees with disdain because of their own real or imagined paranoia. Santa, I will leave you milk and cookies, love you, "Just me."

rage judicata said...

Well, I was wondering when the "take care of staff first" people would really show up in force. I wasn't disappointed.

And this quote: and with the at will crap, that just said, we can replace you at the drop of hat really shows how much of an entitlement complex TYC employees have. I mean, welcome to employment law in Texas jackass, where at will employment is the norm. Do a good job and you get to keep it. Having a set job forever allows you to sit on your butt and never get fired. I bet the folks abusing all of the kids and their administrators who helped cover it up had that exact feeling.

What a lazy bastard. "Pay me better and give me a job for life, and then we'll talk about the kids." That's all you're saying.

St. Nick said...

Santa aint comin. Nor are his dwarfs and Rudolf has gotten lost. Many staff are great, many are are rotten, many staff are lost to, many staff have no business working in TYC and many staff need to walk faster at work and lose some weight.

TYC is going into contract care. If staff feel unappreciated now wait till they taste the fruits of a privatization. $5.85 an hour to start, no 40 hour weeks or very little. Managers that are no better than a brand new JCO I. Benefits you recieve will take up a quarter of your paycheck, and no retirement unless you fund your own 401k.

Hail to Perry, Hail to Perry! He not only lit the fuse he is "movin on up," to the East side(tring anyway "Washington"). Nobody cares about this agency. All they want in Austin for Christmas is for someone to blame, get into contract care and wash their hands of it. All those politicians can then point the finger at each other, OH I mean the contractor. Merry Christmas, and to all a Good BY TYC. Ho Ho Ho Ho Ho Ho!!!!!! Who you callin a HO?

Gritsforbreakfast said...

rage, first, let's keep the name calling to a minimum; I could easily apply the label "jackass" to your comments, they were so ill-informed and spiteful, if I chose to. But it's better IMO to confront arguments than spew name calling. Unless you're 12, in which case such behavior is understandable.

Your interpretation might be warranted if the TYC admin hadn't abused at will employment, firing people for retaliation or even for no good reason at all (like the dozens filed for past criminal records the agency already knew about). Civil service isn't lifetime employment, it just means they have to have a reason to fire you. If TYCers were fired for not doing a good job, 2/3 of the top slots at HQ would be vacant, including the E.D., IMO.

As for pay, would you work as a youth prison guard for the same pay you could make at the Walmart? If not, maybe you should be more appreciative of those who've dedicated their careers to making you safer? TYC employees are voting with their feet and leaving, and soon there won't be enough left to run the facilities. Calling them names on their way out the door helps nothing. best,

Anonymous said...

To 8:00 a.m., I don't know where you work, but you obviously have a severe complex about employees in the workforce and maybe you like being treated poorly. The rest of us don't appreciate it. Are you one of the superintendents offended by the truth? Anyone who works for any employer deserves to be treated with respect and dignity, regardless of being an at will employee. The at will employement is not the question, speaking of jackass, it's the poor treatment of employees by facility superintendents and central office administrators. All employees in TYC are at will, unless you know something the rest don't. What the commentor is sayng is that administrators have no right to intimdiate, embarass or shame a subordinate into giving them what they want if its against policy, the law or procedure and they should treat employees right if they want to keep them. Isn't that what its about any workplace??

Maybe you are one of the ones with the reading comprehension problem Dementia spoke about or perhaps you have been beaten into submission by one of those supts, or as I stated above, you are one of those supts.!! There is no need to call someone you don't even know a jackass, burro!! I don't believe the commentor said pay me better or give me a job for life. It was treat me with respect and dignity and just because you're a superintendent it doesn't give you the right the right to treat employees poorly!!

25 year veteran!

Anonymous said...

Scott, thanks for comprehending what I meant as the 7:42 commentor. I won't waste my time with rage! I've seen too much of it at work!!

Anonymous said...

Attacks by kids on staff is getting out of control. The kids are out of control HELP

Anonymous said...

Grits,

Since you are a "researcher", why don't you research Nedelkoff's work in Florida and the impact he made on the juvenile justice system and youth and families network; then check out the work he did at the Justice department and see what the people that worked for him and under him have to say about the way he cuts the beauracracy and helps the programs and line workers and gets things done; then look at his resume and notice that he has been working his whole life - working his way up from child protective service worker to detention center manager to juvenile justice manager to head of an agency to being appointed to the Justice Department and being lauded by democratic senators including Patrick Leahy. Don't just assume he is a Bush/Perry cronney without doing the research. That's not fair.

Gritsforbreakfast said...

Where did I assume that he's a "Bush Perry crony"?

Maybe others have done so, but if you read my post I listed his background as it's been presented in the publicly available record, quoted two juvie justice experts (Bush and Krisberg) praising him, and wished the man well.

And if you know more background on the man than has been published (e.g., Leahy's praises), why not give us the sources instead of just blaming me for not having found them on my own already? Tell us what you know.

Anonymous said...

Yea Scott, why don't you! Why don't you research Nedelkoff.
1:18PM, leave it alone. You sound like a raving looney.

Nobody needs to research Crap! Nobody gives a crap about some stupid senators in Washington or what they thought. Everybody knows their mostly phonys anyway. Those Senators wouldn't know a good manager from the last lobbyist that wiggled their foot into the crapper next to them at their outhouse. Politicians only know how to feed those that fed or feed them. They don't know what to look for in juvenile corrections, treatment, goal programming or family networking. Let the man work through the TYC insanity before you ask GRITS to research the man's background. Hell, that should have been done already anyway.

Let's see if nedelkoff will move some people around or kick-em out the door. Let's see if he will have the time to venture unannounced to some of our TYC facilities that Ms. Depoop say are being turned around.

I say, let's have Mr. Nedelkoff camp out at Mart. Invite all the youth of Mart to a camp cookout and bonfire. Everybody can cook weiners and burn marshmellows and sing TYC songs. After that then have the kids work in their daily journals about their days experiences. Later they can count the stars and discuss the days activities around the campfires.

What will it take to wake these idiots up. They hired a Boy Scout leader for C----- Sake!

rage judicata said...

rage, first, let's keep the name calling to a minimum; I could easily apply the label "jackass" to your comments,


You're right about this, and I apologize to the targets. I get disgusted by civil service types who want a virtual guarantee for life-long employment. Having been an at-will employee of various types since I was 16 (that's right at 30 years), I've had to live in an environment that means you can get let go even if you do a good job. To see people want to keep their jobs when they don't do it well makes me sick.

You'll remember our discussion about the one-time steroid using cop, and you and I both showed a distaste for the civil service system. To have someone spout that system when their concern should be for the kids in the system pushed it too far for me.

I can't delete those portions of my post, but if you can feel free to. I don't think you censor around here, or that would already be gone, but in this case have at it.

they were so ill-informed and spiteful, if I chose to

Spiteful, absolutely. Not ill informed though. That person showed a "me-first" attitude that has kept me from sympathizing with the run of the mill TYC employee. I'm on the record here as saying that they seem to care about themselves first and the kids later, after they got better hours and better pay, plus more help. A relative few have shown that they are concerned with the kids' conditions first, and right now only Howard comes to mind.

As for your comment about the administration being gone of actual performance were a job requirement, well, sadly that's true of just about every government agency or bureaucracy.

Gritsforbreakfast said...

rj - thanks for recanting the jackass comment.

fyi, civil service on local police and firefighters is MUCH different than state employees. I've got to run or I'd go into it, but Chapter 143 of the Local Government Code covering police and fire is a mess for the 73 cities it applies to. TYC is not covered by that statute, and indeed state employees who are not at will have FAR fewer employment rights compared to local cops in 143 cities, FWIW.

A Critical Observer said...

I have known Richard Nedelkoff for a number of years, and he is a decent, hard working, and visionary public servant. If given the authority necessary to reform the Texas Youth Commission, he can make a significant contribution and restore credibility to the Texas juvenile justice system. Unfortunately, I question whether he will be able to fulfill his mission if John Whitmire continues to tinker with the agency and protect Dimitria Pope, who is out of control.

Anonymous said...

TO TYC Employees......Help is on the way. There are people outside of your shop working on improved conditions. Stay Tuned :)

Anonymous said...

rage, let me explain this to you. People work in TYC because it is a job. I don't see anybody volunteering their services for free, do you? People expect to get compensated for the work that they do, right? How can a TYC employee give 100% of themselves to their jobs if they are getting overworked and treated like crap?!! Treat your employees with respect and pay them what they deserve, and they will do a good job. Period.
Signed,
Civil Servant

Anonymous said...

hey civil servant how much should they be paid? tell us by title and annual salary.

Anonymous said...

Can this be confirmed?

Starting in January the teachers at WTSS in Pyote are going to have to pull JCO duty during their conference periods.

Anonymous said...

Teachers get a conference period?????? Boy we are getting screwed at our campus. Ha.

Anonymous said...

3:53, can you please elaborate. What did he do particularly well? What are his strengths and what are his weaknesses?

Anonymous said...

TO TYC Employees......Help is on the way. There are people outside of your shop working on improved conditions. Stay Tuned :)
12/21/2007 04:02:00 PM

I think I have heard this BS before! Please don't try to sell pie in the sky to TYC staff. We may have been trusting in the past but you can forget that now days.

Now that TYC employees are at will you can be fired if the superintendent’s current whore doesn’t like you. If you find wrong doing you can be fired and discredited before you can cause trouble. At will employment was a real smart move on the part of the Legislature. Bringing at will employment to TYC made it so much easier for the TYC administration to keep their wrong doing secrete.

My new job starts in January and it has nothing to do with state employment! I don't have to drive miles out in the sticks to get to a thankless job. To all of you experts who have never worked in the hell hole called TYC you need to take my place since you think I did such a poor job taking care of some of the most dangerous youth in Texas. Come on and show me how smart you are and how good you can do in my vacant position. I am one more TYC staff you won’t have around to talk down about. I know Pope will share your happiness at my departure since I am white and well educated. What will you do when so many of us have gone TYC can no longer function? If you don’t understand that day is very near then you are clueless to the reality of what condition TYC is really in. No problem a TYC teacher can take my place.

Anonymous said...

He'll do what is right. His national reputation depends on it. At this point there is no other way but up.

Please wait and watch. If you can't hold back, directly email or call him after the holidays. Meanwhile spread the word that help is on the way.

I posted a similar message today from a TYC computer. I see it didn't appear on Grits.

Go Figure...

Anonymous said...

TO Critical Observer at 3:53am

What power does one deranged Senator have over the rest? There are many Senators of another party. The Governor, Lt. Governor, Speaker of the House, and the majority of members of both Houses of a partisan persuasion other than Quitmire's.

What keeps Pope, this psychopath,in power over TYC?

The well being of troubled youth is not a partisan issue.

The new Conservator has no option but to address this.

Whitmire left Dems hanging during the re-districting debate. I hope that this isn't what he cashed his chips in for.

Anonymous said...

12/20/2007 02:04:00 PM I absolutely agree with you! Everything was done to contract it out...A friend of mine from Mart called me today and the PS Stinnett has locked the kids in their cells and without priviledges because he said "there rooms were dirty and they are inmates." He was also overheard in "belittling" and lying on a youth, nothing new for him, regarding a job issue. If its contracted out...staff like that should go...it gives the rest of us a bad name. Mart II Unit - needs to be restructured and something must be done with the youth if its contracted out. I guarantee...if the kids get sent to TDCJ...parents will soon follow. And TYC thinks they had hell, let the parents dissect TDCJ and a riot and civil rights movement like none other is well on its way. As far as the new guy...we can wait and see...but nothing better will come of it.

Anonymous said...

Its about time they make those teachers work. 80% of them never show up to work on Mondays or Fridays. They're highly paid babysitters for TYC. Not many go above and beyond and the good ones are chased off. Yes, there might a few that actually teach and are inclined to help the youth, but most have no control over the classroom. Principals and Assistant Principals take so much time off that one wonders how the heck they know what is going on in their department. The principals are really good at presenting what the superintendent wants to hear to get off the hook. So sad but true.

Anonymous said...

To 7:58

I worked at TYC long enough I retired. The teachers I worked with did a good job. Some were better than others but I can't recall what I would call a bad teacher. It could be that the youth are so out of control due to staffing problems they can't teach. Teachers are not there to control the youth, their job is to teach. If a teaching environment is missing it is not the teacher’s fault. Get enough JCO staff in place to control the class room. TYC is not the local high school, it is a juvenile detention facility. They are probably out looking for alternate employment on Mondays and Fridays. I remember a past TYC superintendent who shared your philosophy about teachers. He was always trying to use teachers (professional staff) for other jobs they were not hired to do. Nothing instills professional pride like using professional staff as cleaning crew. TYC is a terrible place to work and the word is getting out so your complaints about teaches will be a moot point in the near future. Local school districts will have to take responsibility for the TYC youth in contract care. I doubt local school districts will allow their teachers to be treated like TYC has treated teachers. Another good thing is that teachers will not be working for slave wages in the contract care rebuild of TYC, they are professionals whose base salaries are set by law. With the shortage of teachers I doubt many will want to teach at the local juvenile lockup. Our elected officials started something that is only going to get worse for the youth, the staff, and the tax payers because the crooks are trying to line their pockets.

I wonder how many people turned Perry down before the contract care guy said yes. The new guy is knocking down some big tax dollars to go with his old job. What a deal this guy got. If there was not something in the deal for Richard’s employer they would never allow him to take a job of TYC Conservator and stay employed with them. Perry doesn’t even try to hide his corruption! If there is a major party shift this coming election maybe Perry will be a good target for a new Demo US Attorney General to investigate. Perry should be in prison for all of the terrible things he done for money.

Anonymous said...

Education in TYC is only as good as the Facility Superindentants, Principals and all other staff that work for TYC make it. It not only takes a good teacher but it takes a quality run facility that everyone there backs education for the students. Same as in the public school system. If parents are not willing to make the child go to school, help with homework,and be involved with the education of the child, then they too will fail.

When the student in the free world fails, then the first person to blame is the Teacher.
In TYC, most that work there including some superindentants could careless about education and those "high paid teachers". Education has always been on the back burner for the kids with most staff that work at TYC. I am not just referring to JCO staff now, so dont take Staff as meaning just them.
There seems to be no regard for what is going on in the classrooms as the halls of education depts. are loud and rowdy with people talking and medical calls interrupt testing and classrooms.
Constant interruption in the classes by others. There seems to be no respect for the student or teacher who is trying to get them on task to learn.
Maybe when kids are in school we could have everyone in the buildings helping in the classroom to keep the student on task. Not just behavior but helping with the learning. Create a learning enviroment that is valued by all and the students will follow suit if they see the adults interacting with the teacher in the learning process.

If the students see the others talking and laughing about their activities then the student see's no value in learning as we set the example as adults for what is more important. The students are off task listening to conversation and joining in.

If you were a parent in your public school system and you see what you see in your facilities education dept in your childs school then you probably would be really upset. So why are you or would you do the same on your job?

For our teachers and schools to be successful it is going to take the whole facility getting involved with education of these kids 100% of the time and remembering this is a school setting and nothing should be taking place but learning during the school hours.
Kids are followers and they will follow what they see. So the next time you walk in a classroom, go over and ask a kid if you can help him with his work. One person can not help 14 kids at one time.
We have to stop blaming everyone else and we have to start helping everyone to make this a better place if we still have jobs. THat is to be seen. I too, believe we will all be contracted out and the loss of jobs is well on its way.

Anonymous said...

If you have a disfunctional principal or asst.principal walking the halls of an education dept. looking to brow beat a teacher at the drop of a hat then you got yourself a dysfuntional education dept also.
If you got a principal with the same values as the saying goes "white educated woman" then you got a real dysfunctional education dept.
If you got a principal or asst.principal that does not treat the staff the same as everyone then you got a dysfunctional education dept.
If no one can see that but the ones that are being treated poorly you got a hell of a mess.
So don't think that you just have hard time in your dept and teachers have it made. Those sorry lazy teachers may have just been beaten down to the point that can't concentrate on learning. Just like you can't concentrate on your job.
I hate to break the news here but there is no rose garden in TYC.

Anonymous said...

Let's just stop all the BS. You people need to realize nobody cares except probably some of the bloggers. NOBODY CARES PER-REee-IOOOD! Stop the lying, stop the arguing, stop the jokes and end this mess once and for all. I love reading these blogs because it reminds of workin the dorm. A bunch of bumping gum's and flappin. No body on this blog is going to get anything changed except get a 5.85 and hr job for those who hang with a contractor. What part of that do you'all not understand?

And you teachers, some were good. But most of you are lazy do nothing, complaining babysitter's that could have cared less about those kids until payday. And what a payday it was for you.

One other thing if TYC does not go contract, the state must pay a beginning salary of at least $25,000to JCO's. Degreed Case Mangers start at $35,000. The base for any other TYC employee will begin at 25% the present rate. Unit Managers, that are worth a damm and not kicked out the door will start at &40,000 with measurable and attainable bonuses. Superintendants will sat at the same rate until they prove themselves. Mr. Nedelkoff can determine the the rest of the pay scales. Unfortunately, no of this will happen. The Contracts coming Boys and Girls.

Anonymous said...

12:38 maybe you could teach the kids better and that is where you should focus your next job with a contractor.
It is a fact that the majority of people hate the TYC teachers and this blog confirms that. One part you all don't get if you take education away the majority of the funding for TYC comes from education funds like the public school. Maybe all the babysitting teachers need to just leave and let you all handle the kids on the dorm all day long.
Boy you all will really hate the teachers when the school districts have to send them over to teach from public schools. Those teachers will be employee's of the district and not TYC or contract care.
As before on the blogs, teachers are not respected at TYC and there is just no use in trying to defend what others seem to think about them. But you all don't seem to have a problem with them during the school day when they relieve you of your duty to not have to baby sit them on a dorm.
I would like to know what you all do that is so much better than a teacher in a classroom does.
Yes your correct contract care is on its way to a facility near you.

Anonymous said...

TYC Education is an easy fix.

Do this.

Find the kids who have passed the GED then ask if anyone helped them prepare for the test and if it made any difference.

About 60% of the kids who pass get the right help from their teachers.

Find out what is working and do more of it.

Many of these kids can be successful academically and many are succeeding far beyond what is thought to be possible for them. The high motivation that some of them have is outright touching.

Part of the 300 said...

2:53:pm
Each facility will have vocational or college prep schooling. For those youth that don't give a S---prison survival will be their course of study. TYC does not need worthless teachers making more salary than assistant Superintendent's. Most teachers sit on their ass, give out worksheets and that's it, they DON't TEACH.

Any JCO in TYC that has sat in a TYC classrooom will tell you the same. Worthless, worthless, worthless. A taxpayer's nightmare, to say the least. Austin could give more pay to JCO's to sit, the same as teachers. You are obviousily a Moron!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Well you finally said the real reason that people in TYC hate the teachers." they make more money". Always has been and always will be the main issue. Now who is the moron?
Now, since the state mandates the pay for teachers I guess you feel the same way about the ones in public school. You know most of these no good teachers taught in Public school for many years with out being fired, so I guess they were doing something right.
Those same lazy ass teachers will be teaching those collge prep and vocational courses. But remember to take those courses they will need those GED's or Diploma's. Maybe you can get them one. I am done arguing with you. Maybe when the teachers that read your statements go to work after the holidays they will look at the people around them and believe that all think they are useless no good waste of state money. That should motivate them.

Anonymous said...

Not to worry TYC employees! Governor Rick Perry has a plan for your future employment!

I still don't understand how it is the people responsible for the sexual misconduct and the extended cover-up have not been brought to justice. Instead of fixing the problems the total destruction of TYC is being carried out.

The destruction of TYC is a carefully planned event. The plan is in its final stages. The new system will fill the pockets of a few.

None of what happened makes sense unless you follow the money not what is good for the youth, employees, and tax payers.

One of the earlier posters said it is out of anyone’s control on this blog and I fully agree. This was a done deal long ago in a smoke filled back room! Money talks and BS walks!!!

Just when you think it cannot get worse it always does at TYC! Good luck finding a new job where you are appreciated and valued. I hope everyone at TYC is mentally preparing themselves to move on. There is a good life after TYC. You will wonder why you stayed as long as you did once you have moved on. Don’t waste time fighting with each other, accept the change that is coming and take care of yourself.

"Chuy" said...

Once again if your a TYC employee stop with the back-stabbing crap you continue to pull. We all know the reason for the shape that we are currently in (Pope, Humphrey-Neel) and it will continue until these folks are gone.

We were placed under fiscal mismanagement for two perverts out at WTSS. Where are they today, out walking the streets. The above mentioned folks have spent the allotted overtime budget in two months, then suspends the payment of OT, then gets told "Your an idiot" and re-instates the OT.

They come up with a copyrighted treatment program that basically pushes youth out the door un-prepared, but who cares they know these youth ill head to their old chums at TDCJ.

They have spent 75% of the allotted travel budget in two months, (they do not understand what video conferencing is all about).

They had no plans for the 19 and above youth.

They did not follow proper procedure when they rolled out their "New" use of force policy (just spray the little coach-roaches). Which violated a court order, which they received nothing other than a slap on the wrist if that.

Our turnover rate is higher today than what it was last year, and they even made a new position(TYC recruiter) which was not available last year and still cannot find employees who would like to work for this agency.

And last but not least, our TYC Executive Director (acting) stated to the DMN that the reason TYC has become a failure with their treatment programing was based upon it was created in a vacuum by a bunch of PhD White Women.

Now someone please tell me why these folks are still in charge? This has become a total embarrassment, and to top it off when you leave work you can no longer hide the fact you work for TYC because you have to wear that damn shirt.

Yeah Perry you have done a helluva job with this agency, we just hope the new Conservator is not too late. He appears to have the qualifications we just hope he has the authority to send some "folks" packing under this new at will employment policy that they helped create. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

rage judicata said...

rage, let me explain this to you. People work in TYC because it is a job.

You know, there are some jobs that you just don't take if all you want is a job. I think a job that requires close supervision over troubled kids who need good role models is not right for you if all you want is a paycheck. Of course, that may mean you have to go to school to learn a profession or a trade as opposed to driving past a TYC facility, saying "Now Hiring" on a banner outside, and walking is with your GED.

Some jobs have greater responsibilities. Not everyone treats them that way, but the ones who do them right aren't in it for only a paycheck.

Go back to school and get out of the TYC. You're part of the problem.



Grits:

I know the difference between a PD/FD civil service and what TYC currently enjoys, but he's arguing to have what the have. I don't believe cops should have it, just to keep them honest. Much less people who are in direct contact with kids with these types of issue.

Everyone from top to bottom should keep an eye on their jobs and know that if they don't fly right they could lose it.

Anonymous said...

rage judicata your management style has been tried many times before and failed. You would be referred to as a toxic boss in management circles. Your methods would be too destructive and costly for modern businesses. On the other hand you would be a good fit for TYC administration. TYC likes people who think like you and that has really worked well for TYC wouldn’t you say rage judicata considering the current state of affairs at TYC?

At any rate, TYC will be coming to an end in the very near future so all discussion about TYC is pointless. Current TYC employees need to prepare themselves to move on. If you can hang on until they do away with your job you can draw unemployment for 6 months. Don’t forget about stress leave if you have plenty of sick-leave built up. You can burn off 30 days of sick-leave that you would otherwise lose if you don’t use it with stress leave. Be smart and plan ahead for the well being of yourself and your family. Don’t be concerned about TYC or the youth; your family comes first! The condition TYC is in is the direct result of the Governor, the Texas Legislature, and TYC administration! Full responsibility rests at the top not the bottom of the structure. No doubt the people who are leading TYC to its destruction would like to blame the staff in the field but that is not how the responsibility falls. Do not buy into the guilt trip of the people who are really to blame for the failure of TYC!

Anonymous said...

rage judicata are you SF in Central Office?? I have issues with anyone making comments about TYC staff and have never worked in the field.
I could be wrong but the words you use I have heard more than once, sounds familiar!

Anonymous said...

Unemployment well not last long if your laid off from TYC.When you file for unemployment they give you a State of Texas App.And look TDCJ is short of staff and there's a job.You can refuse to work for TDCJ then the State refuses to pay you for unemployment.Life is Grand!Another thing they also have schools in TDCJ why don't they the problems TYC has.

Anonymous said...

Rumor has it and a good source on the rumor that the lovely shirts are going away. No more will be ordered.

Ready! They are replacing them with a full uniform! Shirts and Pants for all of us to struct around in.
So why are they spending tax dollars on this crap? Do believe the money could be put to better use than making all of us look like we are beneath CO in every way.

Anonymous said...

Schools in TDCJ are for Adults who want to go and it is their choice. Kids don't want to go to school most of the time. Teenagers already know everything and they are already smarter than an adult. They don't need no schoolin!Ha-ha

Did you not know more than your parents at that age?

Anonymous said...

Rage Judicata,
Very well said in your 7:04 post.

Anonymous said...

Lets see, walking in with your GED. Please go back when well qualified staff were being fired or intimidated to leave TYC based upon ignorant TDCJ transplants.

I believe the majority of them had the best interests of the youth while employed. TYC will never hire qualified staff as long as the current leadership is in place.

Heck, especially qualified PhD level "White Women".

rage judicata said...

rage judicata your management style has been tried many times before and failed. You would be referred to as a toxic boss in management circles.

That's weird. I have direct supervision of eight attorneys and twelve staff members. I've had the same lawyers in my section for four years and haven't had to hire new staff except because of growth for two. Pretty low turnover in a high-pressure environment.

The difference is that in my profession results are expected and nobody is exempt from scrutiny. This is known by everyone, and nobody shies away from it.

Another difference is that I require 10% of their billable hours to be pro bono hours--makes for a good place to work if the firm will donate 10% of its overall time to charity. All of those in my section who bill (not all staff has to), beat not only the minimum requirements for the firm in billable hours, but do it before you even factor in the pro bono hours. The firm Christmas party was great, as was the firm retreat a couple of months ago.

But you keep on making assumptions just because I would require performance from you whereas you would want to be exempt from scrutiny. A difference of opinion must mean I'm a bad guy, right?

Anonymous said...

"Unemployment well not last long if your laid off from TYC.When you file for unemployment they give you a State of Texas App.And look TDCJ is short of staff and there's a job."

This could be true if you were a JCO and live within 25 miles of a TDCJ facility. TWC does not force you to move your place of residence. Also CO and JCO are not the same job and not the same rate of pay. There are several factors that will play in the employee's favor.

Anonymous said...

rage judicata you refuse to understand abuse of employees is the center pin of this discussion. It is obvious you have never been a case worker, teacher, or JCO at TYC and have no clue what this discussion is about. It is you rage judicata who make assumptions based on your mental conjecture. Once again we have an expert with no real experience showing his ignorance about TYC. You really would be a good fit at TYC Central Office if you are not already working there.

The abuse I am talking about is racial bias, sex for jobs, and retaliation of exposing wrong doing. Throw in a good amount of over working people beyond their limits in a no win situation and telling them how sorry they are when your grand plan fails. The number of people leaving TYC over the years tells the story. rage judicata I doubt you treat your employees in the manor I am talking about or one of the lawyers working for you would have you in court!

rage judicata I have a question for you. Why have the people who molested the youth and the ones who covered it up never been prosecuted for their serious felony crimes? You say you are in charge of a pack of lawyers so this might be more in your area of expertise. I am looking forward to your answer.

Moogumbo said...

I spent six frustrating years at TYC with very little pay and only the raises given to JCO's. I left TYC last week. I was able to get a job the next day at Jack-in-Box. The benefits are better, I get free food. I am eligible for Asst Manager in only three months. I feel liberated and life is good again. The grass can be greener out of TYC. I am so happy. I have a bright future ahead and once I make manager Jack will send me to Burger University for free. Former co-workers come work with JACK or in my industry. There is hope!

Anonymous said...

Lots of contradictory feelings being expressed in this thread.

Employees clearly have been treated poorly in the last year: fired without cause, bullied into compliance with idiotic policies, placed in terrible situations due to understaffing, asked to choose between physical force or pepper spray b/c of that same lack of staffing, and insulted with a Wal-Mart-like uniform.

Rage judicata, I don't know how long you've been reading this blog, but I can tell you that in the early months of the TYC scandal, many, many staff expressed horror and outrage at the abuse of youth here on this site. What you see today is, IMO, the product of months of terrible working conditions. Attitudes have hardened. Self-preservation has replaced working with kids as the most important task for staff - itself a marker of the pathetic failure of the current regime.

On the other hand, we have "chuy" (among others) suggesting that the only reason for all of the above is "two perverts at WTSS." Really? That was the only problem at TYC before March 2007? I thought abuses of youth were shown to be far more widespread. And that youth and staff alike were stuck in a system that had become far too much like a TDCJ prison.

Then we have a string of cynical posts about Nedelkoff, often without any basis in fact. As an outsider, I'm in no position to criticize TYC staff for expecting the worst - esp given the poor qualifications of the last two conservators.

But Nedelkoff's background, and his opening comments to the media, strongly suggest that he should be given the benefit of the doubt. If he starts pushing for contract care, and shows no regard for the needs of staff, or the mission of juvenile rehabilitation, then the cynics will be vindicated.

But right now a lot of what's being written here sounds like conspiracy theory. I very much doubt that Nedelkoff, Whitmire, and Perry sat in a smoke-filled room last April cackling about how they would make millions by shifting TYC into contract care.

First of all, Nedelkoff's current employer, Eckerd Youth, is a non-profit, unlike, say, the Geo Group, which is a for-profit corporation. That's an important distinction. Second, the two companies are polar opposites philosophically. Geo, as we've seen, is a bottom-line oriented company known for underbidding competitors for state contracts, then presiding over horrific conditions for staff and adult or youth inmates in prison-like facilities.

By contrast, Eckerd's history shows a fierce opposition to the kind of boot camp or detention style facilities usually offered by contract care companies.

Until Jack Eckerd's recent death, they ran primarily wilderness camps with very low staff-youth ratios. The company operated in the red for much of its recent history b/c of its penchant for offering quality programs. Unlike Geo, I can find no history of abuse scandals in any Eckerd programs.

Jack Eckerd, the company's founder, was an outspoken critic of the turn to "get tough" juvenile justice in the 1990s. How much of that attitude can be imputed to Nedelkoff is unclear, but the fact is that he is knowledgeable about juvenile justice best practices. He demonstrated that in his DMN profile. He has worked at practically every level in juvenile justice, from probation officer to federal administrator.

That alone is a major upgrade from Kimbrough, Owens, and Pope. He actually knows what the hell he is doing. He may well be a "crony," as some of you have stated, but that word alone doesn't define the guy. In short, give him a chance - he may do the right thing after all if he's been given enough authority.

And just to be clear, I've never met or spoken with Nedelkoff... although I did graduate from high school down the road from Eckerd College in St. Petersburg, Florida (near the company's HQ). These are just my impressions of him at the outset of his tenure at TYC.

Merry Christmas.

Bill Bush

Anonymous said...

Bill Bush

You comments are always informative and clear. I for one have appreciated your contribution to the debate on this blog. When can we expect your book to come out? When will be able to meet you? Didn't you once mention your intentions to return to Texas next year?

"Chuy" said...

Bill Bush, I never stated TYC never had issues prior to March 2007. I did state the following;

Once again if your a TYC employee stop with the back-stabbing crap you continue to pull. We all know the reason for the shape that we are currently in (Pope, Humphrey-Neel) and it will continue until these folks are gone.

We were placed under fiscal mismanagement for two perverts out at WTSS. Where are they today, out walking the streets.

The context was based upon where TYC is today, this can be contributed to the current leadership and the problems (baggage) they brought to TYC and all the miscues they have had since coming on board. I have over 15 years with this agency and can state the problems with this agency have been ongoing but it did not take the steps that were taken.
The get tough approach has never worked but placing TYC under TDCJ management was not the cure all, if anything we are in worse shape today thatn we have ever been. But once again the reason for TYC to be placed under "Conservatorship" was based upon fiscal mismanagement, or that was what we were expected to believe. Anyone can look today at TYC and can easily tell that the agency as a whole is far worse today that March 2007. Today though you do not hear about the staff held hostage at Mart II, or the youth on youth assault or on staff. The current leadership has suppressed this from the media. What about the new Treatment program "Connextions" when it was rolled out at Al Price (unit). Was anyone aware that when the youth were told they did not have to worry about their education phase they broke computers and computer screens?

I as well as my colleagues will give Nedelkoff the benefit of the doubt and hope he brings treatment back to TYC but at the same time realizes that y